Scientology

Namaste leftbehindreject,


thank you for the post.

i'll sum it up... but, you will think i'm making fun of them and ridiculing their tradition.. honest, you will. when i'm done, i'll link you to a very good site to get a variety of views and, to your utter surprise, you'll discover that i'm not actually kidding.

basically:

the reason that you have different moods, like different things and so forth, is because your physical body is inhabited by Thetans. Thetans are, for all intents and purposes, the souls of dead aliens.

Xenu, the Galactic Overlord, fought agaist these other aliens and defeated them, as punishment, they were killed and their souls were trapped and frozen. they were placed aboard spacecraft which look like 727 props and sent to earth.

when they got to earth, the frozen souls were thrown into the Hawaii volcanos, wherein they melted. the now unfrozen souls started searching about for a physical form to manifest in. at this point, humans were essentially Neandathals until these souls found us. there were many more souls than people and thus, many souls latched onto individuals.

$cientology can help you get rid of these Thetans and thereby make your life worthwhile and worth having. ask Tom Crui$e

i'll go ahead and stop now since you must be laughing uncontrollably by now

please read the information at this link: www.xenu.net for more detailed information from the source books, Lafayette Ron Hubbard and ex-$cientologists themselves.

for the more daring, please visit www.Lisamcpherson.org

a sobering sample from her site:

A "rundown" in Scientology is a series of prescribed steps designed to produce a certain end result. These steps involve "auditing", which is looking back through a person's past to find some memory that is causing the person present time problems. The Introspection Rundown is designed to handle a psychotic break or mental breakdown. The theory of the Introspection Rundown is that if you can find what caused the person to become introverted and psychotic then you can handle that cause and break the psychotic episode.

The first step of the rundown is "isolate the person wholly with all attendants completely muzzled (no speech)." [1] Auditing sessions are given infrequently to search for the cause of the psychotic break during this rundown, otherwise the person is isolated in complete silence.

"When it is obvious the person is out of his psychosis and up to the responsibility of living with others his isolation is ended." [2] The supervisor in charge of the person being isolated tests the person's condition by writing a note, such as "'Dear Joe. What can you guarantee me if you are let out of isolation?'" [2] If Joe does not answer in writing satisfactorily, the supervisor must write back "'Dear Joe. I'm sorry but no go on coming out of isolation yet.'" [2] Of course, "this will elicit a protest from the person" [2] but the rundown is not over until the supervisor concludes that Joe has recognized what caused his psychotic break. Once the rundown is over, if the person is a Sea Org member (the elite corps that signs a billion year contract with the church), he/she is put on the RPF - a sort of manual labor detail, and is "told to make good." [3]

Hubbard was quite excited about the Introspection Rundown and declared "THIS MEANS THE LAST REASON TO HAVE PSYCHIATRY AROUND IS GONE." [1] Also, "I have made a technical breakthrough which possibly ranks with the major discoveries of the Twentieth Century." [1]

and, let us not forget the long suffering (1984 court case) Gerry Armstrong:

http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/50grand/introduction.html

a tidbit from his site:

I am an ordinary man who for over twenty years has been the target of extraordinary persecution by the U.S.-based Scientology organization. My case exemplifies a new type of "religious" persecution being perpetrated by Scientology, persecution reinforced by the American justice system and government. But my case is not unique. There are thousands of people, including many here in Europe, who are similarly persecuted by Scientology. Mine, however, is the best-documented example, because of its duration and because of the steadfast refusal God has given me to be crushed or shuddered into silence. This synopsis can but scratch the surface of my story.

but, since we all know how rare it is that people read links, i'll excerpt a bit more of Gerry's amazing story here:

I was inside Scientology for over twelve years, from 1969, to when I escaped in 1981. For eleven years I was in the organization's inner pseudo-military core, the Sea Organization (SO). There I held a number of key positions, including the Legal Officer, Public Relations Officer and Intelligence Officer on board the organization's "Flagship Apollo," from which Scientology was managed and controlled internationally. I worked with Scientology founder and director and SO Commodore L. Ron Hubbard on board the ship, and later in Florida and California.


In my final two years in the SO, I had the task of collecting and assembling an archive of Hubbard's personal documents, and doing research for his biography. During the course of my research, I discovered and documented that Hubbard had lied about virtually every part of his life, including his education, degrees, family, explorations, military service, war wounds, scientific research, the efficacy of his " sciences" - Dianetics and Scientology - along with the actions and intentions of the organizations he created to sell and advance these "sciences."

When I attempted to get Scientology executives to correct the lies that the organization was promoting about Hubbard, and which Hubbard promoted about himself, I was attacked and ordered to be security checked. A "sec check" is an invasive, incriminatory Scientology interrogation technique using its E-meter lie detector. During my years in the SO, I had been subjected to hundreds of hours of sec checks, and had twice been ordered by Hubbard to the Rehabilitation Project Force (RPF) [1], the organization's punishment and reprogramming camps, for a total of twenty-five months. Rather than being again locked up and forced to submit to further abuse and degradation, I fled.



Immediately after leaving the organization, I became a target of Scientology's basic philosophy, policy and practice for dealing with criticism or opposition, which the organization calls "Fair Game." In one short description of this noxious concept, Hubbard wrote:

An "SP" in Scientology terminology is a "Suppressive Person, " considered by the Scientologists to be supremely evil, without any rights, and meriting destruction. Scientology declared me a Suppressive Person in early 1982 and has been subjecting me to Fair Game ever since.

Pursuant to its Fair Game doctrine, Scientology or its agents have:

• <LI class=times14-003333>assaulted me on multiple occasions; <LI class=times14-003333>terrorized me on the freeway; <LI class=times14-003333>stolen photographs from me; <LI class=times14-003333>broke into my car and stolen documents, a manuscript and original artwork; <LI class=times14-003333>spied on me; <LI class=times14-003333>threatened to assassinate me; <LI class=times14-003333>threatened my family; <LI class=times14-003333>harassed my neighbors; <LI class=times14-003333>paid a corrupt police officer for a fake authorization to eavesdrop on me and my attorney and tap our telephones; <LI class=times14-003333>illegally videotaped me; <LI class=times14-003333>attempted numerous times to have me prosecuted on false criminal charges, including with the US Federal Bureau of Investigation; <LI class=times14-003333>sued me six times; <LI class=times14-003333>driven me into bankruptcy; <LI class=times14-003333>carried out covert intelligence operations against me; and
• defamed me with hundreds of Black PR publications.

Black PR or Black Propaganda is Scientology's policy and practice of destroying a person's reputation or public belief in him by willful and relentless slander and libel. [3]


metta,

~v

I don't want to be inpertinent or rude to anyone but.... I don't get it. Is there anyone here who is a scientologist? This is a weird question, but if so, why do you believe as you do?

vajradhara,

KritterCat said:

I don't want to be inpertinent or rude to anyone but.... I don't get it. Is there anyone here who is a scientologist? This is a weird question, but if so, why do you believe as you do?

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What is it that surprises you? I personally find Scientology's myths about body-thetans equally as bizarre and unconvincing as Christianity's myths about angels, demons, Genesis, Armageddon, etc.

But maybe you are asking what would anyone's motivation be to become a Scientologist to begin with. It's probably because they were interested in getting rid of negative habits of thought that limit their ability to act effectively in life, which is a perfectly good goal! They think they are getting some kind of self-improvement assistance from the Scientologists. I'm not certain, but I doubt they start hearing about body-thetans until they are already "hooked". I'm not an expert by any means on Scientology, so vajradhara can (hopefully) explain that more.

Why does anyone join a cult? It seems strange that any reasonably intelligent person would... but it happens every day.

instead of asking what a group believes, first ask what they do.

Unethical mind control practice is common to all damaging thought reform groups. If a potential member knew what they would have to do, when they were deeply indoctrined into such a group, and what their new group identity would be, they would not become involved.

"People don't join cults, cults recruit people."

The founder, Hubbard, was a scam artist primarily and a black magician associated with Aleister Crowley and Jack Parsons secondarily.

the reason that you have different moods, like different things and so forth, is because your physical body is inhabited by Thetans. Thetans are, for all intents and purposes, the souls of dead aliens.

Xenu, the Galactic Overlord, fought agaist these other aliens and defeated them, as punishment, they were killed and their souls were trapped and frozen. they were placed aboard spacecraft which look like 727 props and sent to earth.

when they got to earth, the frozen souls were thrown into the Hawaii volcanos, wherein they melted. the now unfrozen souls started searching about for a physical form to manifest in. at this point, humans were essentially Neandathals until these souls found us. there were many more souls than people and thus, many souls latched onto individuals.

$cientology can help you get rid of these Thetans and thereby make your life worthwhile and worth having. ask Tom Crui$e

i'll go ahead and stop now since you must be laughing uncontrollably by now

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LOL! I read that whole first part to my husband and his only response was "wow." I'd like to think that I am a pretty open and tolerate person, especially when it comes to religion... but I dunno... that whole thing seemed like it came straight out of a really bad sci-fi novel.

I think it's important to remember that when Scientologists approach you they usually don't refer to themselves as a relgion. They want potential recruits to think of them as an alternative to psychology and psychiatry. As both of these fields are not widely held in respect this gives them a little more ground to work with.

Like I said on the other thread: it's esoteric. They don't want you learning about things until you are ready (conditioned) to accept them.

I've done a little research into Scientology. Did you know its banned in Germany as an extremist organization? And they should know right?

Scientology is an insidious cult built on the fantasies of L. Ron Hubbard. It is so apparently false that I cant believe anyone would actually believe it.

Oh, did anyone see this week's episode of South Park, it was a spoof on scientology and did a very good job portraying their beliefs and tactics. It also poked fun at Tom Cruise and the rumors of him being gay. It was also telling that the entire closing credits were 'Jane Doe' and 'John Doe' to hide the identity of those who worked on the episode. This is due to the history of scientologist sueing those who tell the truth about thier beliefs.

vajradhara said:

Xenu, the Galactic Overlord, fought agaist these other aliens and defeated them, as punishment, they were killed and their souls were trapped and frozen. they were placed aboard spacecraft which look like 727 props and sent to earth.

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I thought they were DC-10s! I think your wrong on this detail, be careful or they might sue you for slandering their 'religion.'

Umm wow. So this is what Tom Cruise promotes and this is what Katie Holmes believes?? Okay then.

Crusader05 said:

I thought they were DC-10s! I think your wrong on this detail, be careful or they might sue you for slandering their 'religion.'

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hmm...

you could be right.

of course, i would contend that the Galactic Overlord could disguise them as 727s instead of DC-10's. i mean... he is the Galactic Overlord, after all

metta,

~v

RubiesFire1382 said:

Umm wow. So this is what Tom Cruise promotes and this is what Katie Holmes believes?? Okay then.

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I wouldn't expect that either Tom or Katie are aware of the higher level teachings.

remember that in order to progress in $cientology, you must pay money and have spent a minimum amount of time at a particular level. generally speaking, the high visiability targets, er, recruits, aren't given the higher teachings especially the ones which relate to Xenu.

in point of fact, that whole aspect of the teaching is reserved for very high ranking members.

i suppose that once you've sunk some $300,000 into this, your own sense of being duped and embarassed would serve as a powerful motivator not to leave and consider the money gone.

metta,

~v

vajradhara said:

hmm...

you could be right.

of course, i would contend that the Galactic Overlord could disguise them as 727s instead of DC-10's. i mean... he is the Galactic Overlord, after all

metta,

~v

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Thats right, you never know what Lord Xenu is up too!