Scientists refute evolution, Non-creationist scientists

[trunks2k]

The premise that humans came from apes is not part of evolution. It is part of creatolution, however.

Well, to be fair, we ARE apes, so unless humans are the branching species between apes and other primates, and that all other apes descended from humans, then it is a technically accurate statement to say that humans came from apes. But it's an obvious statement. It's like saying that my parents are human.

 

[TheUndeadFish]

Carico,
How do you respond to the fact that this Creationist source has lied to support their position?

The issue being taken up with is that someone is portraying Futuyama as not agreeing with ToE. This is an asinine claim to make because Futuyama is a popular* supporter of evolution. To say that Futuyama does not agree with ToE is an outright lie.

Carico. Please address the blatant lying that occurred by including Futuyma in a list of non-creation scientists that refute evolution.

Do you not consider lying to be wrong?

 

[DirkGeevink]

Excellent post, Jeff. Anybody with any logic can see that apes have bred apes & humans have bred humans all throughout recorded history. So what evoltuionists have to do is then say this happened before recorded history. By the same token I can say that the beast called erapodylius lived before recorded history because I have a Ph.d in science. Then I can find a rock, take it back to my lab, & say that it's the bones of the erapodylius, put it in a Museum and say, "don't touch it". There, that proves it. Then I can make up "scientific" explanations to exlain why just like Tolken did in "Lord Of The Rings." Anything can make sense in the Sci-Fi world, but not in the real world!

Carico,

Why is it you embrace this post about scientists refuting evolution? After all, as you stated before, scientists are fallible and imperfect, and are therefore not to be trusted? You are being inconsistant.

 

[Freodin]

Now isn´t that an interesting dilema?

There is this big bad scientist X, who states "According to the existing evidence, the Theory of Evolution is correct.

He is wrong, of course. He must be wrong, because he is a fallible human, who puts his trust in human knowledge instead of the word of God.
Fallible means being wrong all the time.

And now there is big bad scientist Y, who states "Accoring to the existing evidence, The Theory of Evolution is not valid."

He is correct of course, because he is a scientist, and knows what he is talking about. He has a PHD and exams and has studied this topic long. He may be fallible, but here he cannot be wrong.
Fallible means being wrong where you disagree with me.


Isn´t Creationists doublethink wonderful?

 

[AirPo]

Well, to be fair, we ARE apes, so unless humans are the branching species between apes and other primates, and that all other apes descended from humans, then it is a technically accurate statement to say that humans came from apes. But it's an obvious statement. It's like saying that my parents are human.

As a technicality I agree. But if creationists understood it they wouldn't make the comment in the first place.

 

[FieryBalrog]

And thousands of scientists trusted Hitler too. We recruited many of them after the war. They were not all mass murders (although the ones who performed experiments on the Jews at concentrations camps were) but VERY easily deceived. Sorry, but again, scientists are just as fallible as the rest of us. But many of them don't think so which is why they publish findings & then find they have to take them back later. This included the scientists who believed Hitler.

Hitler was a Christian and was supported by MILLIONS of christians. Dont constantly bring him up and throw him around if you dont want to be embarassed.


Oh no, some scientists supported Hitler! Scientists are easily deceived ignoramuses!

 

[Blackmarch]

2 cents
Theory of evolution is not a product of imagination rather reasoning of observation.
Evolution does not necessarily explain how living cells developed from inorganic/Lifeless matter (if that's how it occurred). But there is a process of change that happens overtime to species,which is what the theory of evolution helps explain.
Evolution doesn't necessarily mean humans came from apes.

 

[wardpossy]

Evolution cannot and never will be proven, it is simply humans trying their hardest to discredit Gods word, Instead of looking for humans to awnser your questions... LOOK AND READ THE BIBLE... the awnsers are already their. The WHOLE truth and nothing but the truth,

JEff

 

[robot23]

Evolution cannot and never will be proven, it is simply humans trying their hardest to discredit Gods word, Instead of looking for humans to awnser your questions... LOOK AND READ THE BIBLE... the awnsers are already their. The WHOLE truth and nothing but the truth,

JEff

you are a century too late
already proven
you forget amidst your many many copy and paste jobs that evolution does not discredit in any way, and many of evolutionists are christian

 

[AirPo]

Evolution cannot and never will be proven,

Looks like you're learning something.

it is simply humans trying their hardest to discredit Gods word,

Darn! You were doing so well.

 

[wardpossy]

Thats funny .. if their is so much "Proof" why arent you collecting the $250,000.... Oh I know let me guess, you dont need it. For The rest of you, AND YES I AM COPYING AND PASTING THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION:http://www.drdino.com/Ministry/250k/index.jsp
Dr. Kent Hovind goes on to state --- The test of any theory is whether or not it provides answers to basic questions. Some well-meaning but misguided people think evolution is a reasonable theory to explain man's questions about the universe. Evolution is not a good theory --- it is just a pagan religion masquerading as science.
Dr. Hovind's has offered $250,000 since 1990 to anyone who can give any empirical evidence (scientific proof) for evolution.

What does it take to get people to understand that GOD IS LORD !!

 

[robot23]

Thats funny .. if their is so much "Proof" why arent you collecting the $250,000.... Oh I know let me guess, you dont need it. For The rest of you, AND YES I AM COPYING AND PASTING THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION:http://www.drdino.com/Ministry/250k/index.jsp
Dr. Kent Hovind goes on to state --- The test of any theory is whether or not it provides answers to basic questions. Some well-meaning but misguided people think evolution is a reasonable theory to explain man's questions about the universe. Evolution is not a good theory --- it is just a pagan religion masquerading as science.
Dr. Hovind's has offered $250,000 since 1990 to anyone who can give any empirical evidence (scientific proof) for evolution.

What does it take to get people to understand that GOD IS LORD !!

the fact that god is lord has no bearing on the facts about evolution
furthermore no one cares what this hack dr hovind thinks except the people he cons into paying money to hear him lie
there is nothing pagan about evolution either since the originators of the theory were christian
everyone knows (except you, carico and the other creationists) that evolution and the scientific facts it is based on is true

 

[trunks2k]

Thats funny .. if their is so much "Proof" why arent you collecting the $250,000.... Oh I know let me guess, you dont need it. <snip>

This has already been dealt with in your other thread.

 

[llDayo]

Evolution is not a good theory --- it is just a pagan religion masquerading as science.

Evolution a pagan religion? O Christmas tree, O Christmas tree....

Dr. Hovind's has offered $250,000 since 1990 to anyone who can give any empirical evidence (scientific proof) for evolution.

And he's continually listed his own definition of what Evolution is in order to evidence it. Since he doesn't even understand the basic definition of it, it's not possible to show evidence.

What does it take to get people to understand that GOD IS LORD !!

I dunno, how about more evidence other than goddidit?

 

[GoSeminoles!]

Thats funny .. if their is so much "Proof" why arent you collecting the $250,000....

Evolutionists have collected a lot more than that from Stockholm.

Dr. Kent Hovind goes on to state --- The test of any theory is whether or not it provides answers to basic questions.

I thought the test of a theory was whether it made good predictions. Evolution consistently makes accurate predictions, so that makes it a good theory. No one really cares what your religion thinks about it because evolution works.

 

[LifeToTheFullest!]

Again, "Dr." Dino consistently misrepresents the facts, and flat out lies. I would suggest you compare his claims to that of real science.

BTW (just for kicks), can you name just ONE atheistic/agnostic scientist who beleives the creationist model to be true? If not, I propose that the creationist model is nothing more than dogma, not supported by the facts.

Eagerly awaiting your response.

 

[Tomk80]

What does it take to get people to understand that GOD IS LORD !!

I don't know what it would take. I know what deters it though. People who haven't got the faintest clue what they are talking about when they criticize the theory of evolution or science in general and keep propping up falsehoods like evolution=atheism. Yes, I'm talking about you.

 

[Hydra009]

Thats funny .. if their is so much "Proof" why arent you collecting the $250,000.... Oh I know let me guess, you dont need it. <snip> Dr. Hovind's has offered $250,000 since 1990 to anyone who can give any empirical evidence (scientific proof) for evolution.

Because Hovind set the rules so that it is physically impossible for anyone to prove it. He asks evolutionists to prove atheistic crevolution, not evolution.

 

[Hydra009]

Thats funny .. if their is so much "Proof" why arent you collecting the $250,000.... Oh I know let me guess, you dont need it. <snip> Dr. Hovind's has offered $250,000 since 1990 to anyone who can give any empirical evidence (scientific proof) for evolution.

Because Hovind set the rules so that it is physically impossible for anyone to prove it. He asks evolutionists to prove atheistic crevolution, not evolution.

 

[wardpossy]

I don't know what it would take. I know what deters it though. People who haven't got the faintest clue what they are talking about when they criticize the theory of evolution or science in general and keep propping up falsehoods like evolution=atheism. Yes, I'm talking about you.

I will be the FIRST TO ADMIT that I do not study evolution or science, It will just cause more confusion and I know the devil will love anything a persaon does to cause doubt that way he can take you for his own. This life is short but I KNOW ONE THING FOR SURE, I know where Im going and Im sure I will enjoy it alot more that non believers for you, and yes I do mean YOU!!