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Scientists Baffled Again.

AV1611VET

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That looks like a neanderthal (although I couldn't be sure)
We have tonnes of their skeletons and artifacts
Try Cro-Magnon --- if you had "tonnes of their skeletons and artifacts", you shoulda known that.
 
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I don't need clues, Wedjat --- I just need to wait until you guys accuse us of something [anything], then turn it right around on you guys.

Apart from being wrong, you know what else that is?

It's called being a hypocrite.
 
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Apart from being wrong, you know what else that is?

It's called being a hypocrite.
What's all this baloney, Cabal?

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An artist's drawing of gaps, or bona-fide satellite photographs?
 
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What's all this baloney, Cabal?

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An artist's drawing of gaps, or bona-fide satellite photographs?

Ah, so if you can't see it right in front of you RIGHT NOW it isn't true? Please.

Pull the forest out of your own eye, hypocrite.
 
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Try Cro-Magnon --- if you had "tonnes of their skeletons and artifacts", you shoulda known that.
Yes AV, because every evolutionist is a fully fledged scientist in every field and should be able to immediately identify a reconstruction of an ancient hominid through a 100 pixel wide 2.7 kb photo.
 
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Yes AV, because every evolutionist is a fully fledged scientist in every field and should be able to immediately identify a reconstruction of an ancient hominid through a 100 pixel wide 2.7 kb photo.

I think by his own standards of giving incomplete descriptions, AV just "God of the gap"'ed himself.
 
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Try Cro-Magnon --- if you had "tonnes of their skeletons and artifacts", you shoulda known that.

Ah, yes, because a low-resolution photo of a vague subject is supposed to be enough to be able to distinguish between two relatively similar species.
 
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What's all this junk?

Have every one of these creatures been verified with complete skeletons and external musculature and hides?

If not, you could just be espousing god-of-the-gaps artistry.

What is this? More God of the gaps artistry?
Noah's Ark I : LDS Fabric
 
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Noah builds a containment vessel, God floods the world, the Ark comes to rest on Mt Ararat, etc.

Scientists ask how the Ark could have survived the stresses that a worldwide flood would produce, as well as question the seaworthiness of the Ark itself.

Theologians respond with any number of replies that can all be summed up in, "God did it."

Scientists accuse theologians of employing "god of the gaps" as a hermeneutic.

Now, let's turn this around.

Scientists espouse an abiogenesis-to-man cosmology of the universe.

Theologians ask how this could be, seeing as there are so many missing links.

Scientists respond with basically, "We have all the bases covered, and are satisfied."

Again, employing a god-of-the-gaps cosmology.
You're debating that science is just guessing using a computer created through the practical employment of said scientific "guesswork." The irony of your comment is too rich. :thumbsup:
 
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Doveman, kindly point out where your pet "theory" explains the uneven distribution of satellite galaxies.
Okay.
Do you even know why current gravitational theory predicts an even distribution
I think it has something to do with Galaxies colliding and gravity holding the pieces together to form satellite galaxies.

But correct me if I'm wrong.
do you even know the subject that you're criticizing, at least to the level of the experts that you're trying to discredit?
Well, maybe not at the level of the experts, but enough to criticize it.
I think what's more likely is that you've created a false dichotomy where you automatically claim plasma theory is 100% correct if the slightest thing is wrong with gravitational theory
Nope. Plasma theory is likely correct because it predicts the uneven distributions.
without bothering to provide an explanation of your own.
Galaxies are formed and driven by the force of electric currents called Birkeland currents in cosmic plasma. Electric currents are 39 orders of magnitude (1000, trillion, trillion, trillion times) more powerful than gravity.

Since all galaxies are driven by the infinitely strong Birkeland currents, or electric power lines, then galaxies can move independently of the much weaker gravitational influence of nearby larger galaxies, and are therefore distributed in ways not predicted by the conventional gravitational model, just as they do in the OP.

Scientifically speaking, we rely on models that best predicts observations. The observation in the OP best fits the electric model since the proponents of the gravitational model are all baffled by this observation, but in the electric model such observations are expected.

This is another example of galaxies moving contrary to what is predicted by the gravitational model but is expected by the electric model.
It's God of the gaps all over again.
I think not.
 
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Not mainstream cosmology, believe me. It's filled with darkness. :thumbsup:
Oh bosh.

I love how every idea that someone disagrees with becomes some insidious monster.
No, really, it is filled with darkness – dark matter, dark energy, dark holes, and dark flows all wrapped up in a stretchy piece of dark fabric called ‘spacetime’.
 
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It's called being a hypocrite.
I'm a hypocrite, am I?

What are you guys, when you accuse us of retrofitting science into the Bible, then retrofit flat-earth and geocentrism into It yourselves?
 
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I'm a hypocrite, am I?

What are you guys, when you accuse us of retrofitting science into the Bible, then retrofit flat-earth and geocentrism into It yourselves?

Because unlike your attempts to retrofit science into the bible, believing in flat-earth or a geocentric world WERE genuine Biblical interpretations in the past, so they're in a different category altogether.

On a more general level, your dozens of double standards make you well worthy of the quoted description :wave:
 
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