Scientifically Testing Jesus' Power

[AV1611VET]

This question is for the Internet scientists here:

Would asking Jesus to turn rocks into bread be a valid scientific request?

 

[SithDoughnut]

Depends. What aspect of Jesus' power are we testing?

Apparently you haven't actually decided to have a real discussion yet, but I live in hope.

 

[Freodin]

Depends. What aspect of Jesus' power are we testing?

Apparently you haven't actually decided to have a real discussion yet, but I live in hope.

Don't comment. Just vote. Keep quite and enjoy the show!

 

[SithDoughnut]

Don't comment. Just vote. Keep quite and enjoy the show!

There's nothing to vote on. I'm still waiting for an actual answerable question.

 

[Freodin]

There's nothing to vote on. I'm still waiting for an actual answerable question.

He wants a yes or no answer. Just give him one. Don't bother with reasons.

 

[SithDoughnut]

He wants a yes or no answer. Just give him one. Don't bother with reasons.

I need an actual question first

 

[CaliforniaSun]

He's like a little boy who badly wants you to play his game by his rules so's he can declare victory and tell all his friends.

 

[pgp_protector]

Definition of VALID

1 : having legal efficacy or force; especially : executed with the proper legal authority and formalities <a valid contract>
2 a : well-grounded or justifiable : being at once relevant and meaningful <a valid theory>
b : logically correct <a valid argument> <valid inference>
3 : appropriate to the end in view : effective <every craft has its own valid methods>
4 of a taxon : conforming to accepted principles of sound biological classification


re·quest&#8194; &#8194; &#8211;noun
1. the act of asking for something to be given or done, especially as a favor or courtesy; solicitation or petition: At his request, they left.
2. an instance of this: There have been many requests for the product.
3. a written statement of petition: If you need supplies, send in a request.
4. something asked for: to obtain one's request.
5. the state of being asked for; demand.

Well if we use Valid(2) Request(4) then yes, but we we use Valid(4) Request(2) Then No.

 

[Wiccan_Child]

This question is for the Internet scientists here:

Would asking Jesus to turn rocks into bread be a valid scientific request?

The question is too vague to answer. Is it a grammatically valid request? Yes. Is it a scientific request? Depends what you mean by 'scientific request'. Would Jesus be proven to be God if he turned rocks into bread? No.

So the answer to the question could be 'yes', 'no', or 'depends'. Clarify your question, and we can narrow down the answer.

 

[CaliforniaSun]

Well, at least we know what he thinks of science and hiking.

(Two of my favorite pastimes BTW)

 

[Delphiki]

This question is for the Internet scientists here:

Would asking Jesus to turn rocks into bread be a valid scientific request?

Depends on what exactly it is you're testing.

Are you testing whether you can get a response from Jesus by asking a question?
- Just tried it now. Test failed.

Since the first test failed, I am unable to proceed with asking if he can transmute minerals.



If you're validating his existence (or ability to answer questions), then yes, it's a valid question... in fact it's one I encourage. So yes.

If you're validating whether he can transmute, then this question is invalid due tot he test performed for the first part of the question. So no.


Simplest answer:
Will Jesus answer me? Valid question. (Yes)
Can Jesus transmute? Not valid. (no)

 

[Gracchus]

Well, at least we know what he thinks of science and hiking.

(Two of my favorite pastimes BTW)

Well, science may take a hike, but faith has to sit on its ... er, fundamentals.

 

[ReverendDG]

depends on what kind of bread.

 

[theFijian]

This question is for the Internet scientists here:

Would asking Jesus to turn rocks into bread be a valid scientific request?

What about curing ADHD?

 

[lucaspa]

This question is for the Internet scientists here:

Would asking Jesus to turn rocks into bread be a valid scientific request?

What's an "Internet scientist"? I'm not one of those.

Considering that the man Jesus is dead and no longer physically on the earth, no.

 

[lucaspa]

What about curing ADHD?

That's not a proper theological request. You can ask, but the proper theological response would be "no".

 

[Tinker Grey]

That's not a proper theological request. You can ask, but the proper theological response would be "no".

Why? Are you suggesting that praying for healing is improper? Or praying for healing from 'conditions'?

 

[Nostromo]

I've heard of rock cakes but this is taking it too far.

 

[lucaspa]

Why? Are you suggesting that praying for healing is improper? Or praying for healing from 'conditions'?

This is praying to eliminate an entire condition, one that is genetically based and involves several genes. It requires massive changes in the human genome.

What this would require is for our lives to have no meaning. Our lives have meaning because we have real responses to real situations and those responses have real consequences for the future. Our future and the future of others.

For God to intervene like this and wipe out ADHD would rob our lives of meaning. I know many Christians would like what I call the Vending Machine god, where you put in your prayer for a material change and you get your material wish. It would make our lives all nicey-nice, but it would rob our lives of meaning. It would also negate God's love, because part of love is to let people make real decisions with real consequences.

 

[Nostromo]

For God to intervene like this and wipe out ADHD would rob our lives of meaning. I know many Christians would like what I call the Vending Machine god, where you put in your prayer for a material change and you get your material wish. It would make our lives all nicey-nice, but it would rob our lives of meaning.

I hope I'm misunderstanding, but you seem to be saying that for our lives to have meaning there must be hereditary diseases. What is the meaning of our life here?

It would also negate God's love, because part of love is to let people make real decisions with real consequences.

I don't see how that follows, surely you've experienced someone intervening in the life of another for the better, out of love?