I can't imagine why it wouldn't load for you. http://www.icr.org/John16:2 said:
There's no worthwhile evidence there at all.
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I can't imagine why it wouldn't load for you. http://www.icr.org/John16:2 said:When I linked up, I only got a small circle center screen, and the downloading was done, so, please explain whatever evidence you say is there.
John16:2 said:Please explain the HIGH concentrations of dinosaur fossils in places like Montana. Perhaps migration to the dinosaur graveyard? OR FLOOD!
leccy said:Here you go.
This is a good introduction to dinosaur taphonomy in a format that is highly suitable for digestion by the layman.
http://www.blackwellpublishing.com/dinosaurs/pdf/samplechap6.pdf
If you read and understand that it will give you an understanding as to the processes and mechanisms that govern why dinosaur fossils are found in particular settings.
John16:2 said:One mans' opinion is anothers' foolishness. Deny the Yukatan impact & history of EM pole reversals & axis shifts! Those events SURELY would cause wave action. EM field reaching 0 point can cause intensive lava production, making the Biblical erupting "fountains" possible, with rains from steam venting.
I still favor the Sumerian scenario of an intense tidal pull from an unknown object, like the 3 MOON SIZED comets that bashed the sun since 1998.
leccy said:ohhhkayyyyyy
The Blackwell article isn't just one man's opinion. It is a summary of millions of man years work in the field of palaeontology and peer reviewed science.
In contrast your hypothesis of dinosaurs being concentrated by wave action due to a bypassing unknown planet, and that being responsible for the distribution of oil and gas deposits around the planet is just a wild scenario plucked out of someone's nether regions without a scrap of evidence presented.
Your statement that "Iraq is a desert!!" with reference to the Summerians living on a flood plain shows how unfamiliar you are with this planet, it's geography and history. Such wilful ignorance of the basic make up of the planet that you live on, whilst going off on wild fantasies make it very difficult to take anything you say with any degree of seriousness at all.
John16:2 said:You failed to address the known history of earth that SURELY caused floodings; Yukatan crater, EM pole reversals & axis shifts. Do you say it never happened?
raphael_aa said:Just for a laugh, could you explain how pole reversals cause flooding? Water is not magnetic you know. Pole reversals have happened numerous times in the earth's history with little or no effect. The earth itself does not move at all during a pole reversal.
John16:2 said:You failed to address the known history of earth that SURELY caused floodings; Yukatan crater, EM pole reversals & axis shifts. Do you say it never happened?
John16:2 said:ourworld.compuserve.com --- to quote: (axis shift) would cause tremendous DELUGE and destruction of civilization".
Douglaangu v2.0 said:Thats nice. How? Why?
As I perceive it the catastrophic events of the flood itself could quite easily have caused an axis shift. Consider that the waters from below the earths crust gushing over the face of the earth. Consider then the redistribution of ALL of the soil and rock coverage of the earth's crust moving from covering high mountains to now forming mile high sediment layers at lower altitudes. These two events alone would cause a massive shift in the equilibrium of the earth. Possibly such an event could have caused pole reversal as well as the formation of the polar iceJohn16:2 said:Imagine a pan of water with mountains sticking out, stable, yet ripples can happen from little quakes. One day you turn the handle, and mountains get deluged. A world spinning one way shifting totally another direction of spin is a dramatic event. The scenario is not as likely a cause of the Biblical flood because of the duration, but it HAS happened in earthstory. I'm with the large object passing scenario.
A4C said:As I perceive it the catastrophic events of the flood itself could quite easily have caused an axis shift. Consider that the waters from below the earths crust gushing over the face of the earth. Consider then the redistribution of ALL of the soil and rock coverage of the earth's crust moving from covering high mountains to now forming mile high sediment layers at lower altitudes. These two events alone would cause a massive shift in the equilibrium of the earth. Possibly such an event could have caused pole reversal as well as the formation of the polar ice
How would I know this ?
Well haven't the scientists told us that the, relatively minor in comparison, tsunami recently caused a measurable variation as land mass ended up filling an ocean void
You probably don't want to know the answer to this question..A4C said:C'mon !!! 200 mile wide pink fairies? What do you think I am ?
John16:2 said:ourworld.compuserve.com --- to quote: (axis shift) would cause tremendous DELUGE and destruction of civilization".
raphael_aa said:This is an answer to a question I did not ask. I specifically asked why magnetic pole reversals would cause 'waves' on a flooded world. You do understand that pole reversals are independent of axis shifts, don't you? You do understand the axis of the earth has a pronounced wobble and is shifting all the time, don't you? (Hold on to your seat!).
Please answer the question: How do magnetic pole reversals effect the ocean?
John16:2 said:You're talking about wandering shifts, rather than massive shifts, & wandering shifts are of no consequence for a deluge event, so drop it.
I'm talking about the kind of event that left the Siberian mastadon quick frozen in ice with preserved daisies in mouth & stomach.
Axis shifts & EM pole reversals go together often (massive shifts OK?). EM pole reversal alone is not necessarily a deluge event, except that it causes lava production. But along with axis shifting massively, it's surely a deluge event.
I never said reversal alone would cause deluge, but reversal & shift go together. I'm not even saying the great flood was a shift event, but it's proof earth has been deluged before is the point.
Shift waves last less than a week before settling down. That's why I'm with the tidal pull flood scenario.
raphael_aa said:1. What is the mechanism for lava production being caused by pole reversal. I know of no such mechanism. I am always eager to learn however.
2. What is the evidence that massive axis shifts have caused catastrophes? Please don't use any evidence that can be better explained by plate tectonics which is an observed phenomena.
3. On what basis do you say pole reversals are associated with massive axis shifts? Having taught science and physics for 25 years, I've never heard of this.
4. Since all of us agree catastrophic events have happened in the earth's past, which of these bits of evidence can ONLY be explained by a Biblical global flood?
5. What evidence is there of this 'tidal pull' event? Your logic seems to be suspisciously like:
I believe the flood happened -> musta been caused by something -> roving planet could do it -> therefore roving planet did it -> therefore flood happened
John16:2 said:, snip>. By coincidence, one self proclaimed Sumerian scholar asserts there WAS an object that passed & caused the flood. Possibility plus reported cause equals stronger possibility.
raphael_aa said:I note you did not actually answer any of my questions. However, leaving that aside, why is it that the Bible makes absolutely no reference to the flood being caused a celestial passer-by? Presumeably, they would have seen it coming.
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