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Science Only Works in a Biblical Worldview- Evolution Cannot Account for Science

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It's not so much a case of preference as simply personal intellectual honesty. I can't force myself to explicitly believe in a creator (especially one given to any specific human religion) any more than you could likely force yourself to disbelieve in one.


I believe this false on all accounts and follows from an atheistic evolutionary worldview as it does not allow for free will.

"In a universe of blind physical forces and genetic replication, some people are going to get hurt, and other people are going to get lucky; and you won’t find any rhyme or reason to it, nor any justice. The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is at the bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil and no good. Nothing but blind pitiless indifference. DNA neither knows nor cares. DNA just is, and we dance to its music."
-Richard Dawkins, --Out of Eden, page 133


“The modern age, more or less repudiating the idea of a divine lawgiver, has nevertheless tried to retain the ideas of moral right and wrong, without noticing that in casting God aside they have also abolished the meaningfulness of right and wrong as well. Thus, even educated persons sometimes declare that such things as war, or abortion, or the violation of certain human rights are morally wrong, and they imagine that they have said something true and meaningful. Educated people do not need to be told, however, that questions such as these have never been answered outside of religion”
-Atheist philosopher Richard Taylor
 
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Why? We create things all the time. How many of them can understand nature?

We have created intelligent life? That's news to me. please point me to the proper scientific laboratory experiment.
 
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It's not so much a case of preference as simply personal intellectual honesty. I can't force myself to explicitly believe in a creator (especially one given to any specific human religion) any more than you could likely force yourself to disbelieve in one.
I forced myself to disbelieve in one for nearly 20 years. I was only forced into believing in one after reviewing all the evidence. My personal intellectual honesty would no longer allow me to continue lying to myself by making excuses.
 
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I believe this false on all accounts and follows from an atheistic evolutionary worldview as it does not allow for free will.

"In a universe of blind physical forces and genetic replication, some people are going to get hurt, and other people are going to get lucky; and you won’t find any rhyme or reason to it, nor any justice. The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is at the bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil and no good. Nothing but blind pitiless indifference. DNA neither knows nor cares. DNA just is, and we dance to its music."
-Richard Dawkins, --Out of Eden, page 133


“The modern age, more or less repudiating the idea of a divine lawgiver, has nevertheless tried to retain the ideas of moral right and wrong, without noticing that in casting God aside they have also abolished the meaningfulness of right and wrong as well. Thus, even educated persons sometimes declare that such things as war, or abortion, or the violation of certain human rights are morally wrong, and they imagine that they have said something true and meaningful. Educated people do not need to be told, however, that questions such as these have never been answered outside of religion”
-Atheist philosopher Richard Taylor
Does a Lion feel sorry for the lamb it eats? Doubtful it even considers the idea.

Do animals care for those to infirm to be productive? No, they drive them out of the pack.

If man is really just an evolved animal, then what evolution really teaches us is that only survival of the fittest matters. That the weak and infirm should be cast aside as worthless rags. That one man or group of men can easily be biologically superior to another. It fosters descent, hatred and lawlessness. It itself is vile in that it teaches that one person or group of persons may in fact be or become biologically superior to another, for no other reason than a random event. Nay, I choose the path of peace and love and caring for ones neighbor as I would myself.

Evolution is what the Serpent whispered in Eve's ear: "you can become like God"
 
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Does a Lion feel sorry for the lamb it eats? Doubtful it even considers the idea.

Do animals care for those to infirm to be productive? No, they drive them out of the pack.

If man is really just an evolved animal, then what evolution really teaches us is that only survival of the fittest matters. That the weak and infirm should be cast aside as worthless rags. That one man or group of men can easily be biologically superior to another. It fosters descent, hatred and lawlessness. It itself is vile in that it teaches that one person or group of persons may in fact be or become biologically superior to another, for no other reason than a random event. Nay, I choose the path of peace and love and caring for ones neighbor as I would myself.

Evolution is what the Serpent whispered in Eve's ear: "you can become like God"
If it's religion that keeps you from killin', then keep believing, buddy.
 
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The thought does scare many.

:scratch:

"Often a cold shudder has run through me, and I have asked myself whether I may have not devoted myself to a fantasy."
-Charles Darwin

Creationists seem to have tremendous difficulty understanding that Darwin was not an apostle not were his writings epistles. And anything Darwin wrote has long since been superseded by the massive amount of evidence science has found for evolution.

I want atheism to be true and am made uneasy by the fact that some of the most intelligent and well informed people I know are religious believers. It inset just that I dont believe in god and naturally, hope there is no god, I dont want there to be a god, I dont wont the universe to be like that.
-Philosopher Thomas nagel the last word,oxford university press new york 1997 p 30


What does this have to do with evolution?

I suppose the reason we why we lept at the orgin of species was that the idea of god interfered with our sexual mores-
-sir julien Huxley


This quote doesn't exist. It's a lie spread by D. James Kennedy and others.

People dont believe lies because they have to, but because they want to”
-Malcolm Muggeridge

What does this have to do with evolution? :scratch:
 
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When in doubt, resort to logical fallacies for your opponents [majority opinion]. Doesn't actually score any points, but it makes you feel better, no doubt.

What's with the childish reflecting his verbiage back at him? The fact is the vast majority of scientists of all religious positions accept evolution because of the overwhelming amount of evidence supporting it.

{snip quotes}

How ironic. Appeals to authority.
 
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Like evolution.

Actually evolution has a massive amount of evidence supporting it.

Future threads coming on the subject. I was referring to a biblical faith.

You're not the first Creationist to join here and spam PRATTs that have been addressed many times over the past 16 years.
 
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Like evolution. Future threads coming on the subject. I was referring to a biblical faith.

I almost laughed earlier when you mentioned how warm and polite it was here compared to other sites. But by now I think you can see that ad hominem attacks is all you will get in return.... Those here claiming to follow science rarely if ever offer any actual science. So if that type of debate was what you were looking for, you came to the wrong place.
 
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What's with the childish reflecting his verbiage back at him? The fact is the vast majority of scientists of all religious positions accept evolution because of the overwhelming amount of evidence supporting it.

{snip quotes}

How ironic. Appeals to authority.


I would disagree fully.

The western world have never had the chance to learn creation thinking and know only evolution. Naturalism enjoys a virtual monopoly in today's classrooms, while instructors who have been schooled only in naturalistic worldview play the part of evolutionary evangelist.”
-John D Morris and Frank J Sherwin The Fossil Record 2017



Heresyphobia- Fear of deviation from traditional doctrine.
Gnosiophobia- Fear of knowledge.
Phronemophobia- Fear of thinking.


Majority of Scientist Believe in Evolution

Simply put most people believe in evolution because most people believe in evolution. It is all they have ever been taught. If creation is ever mentioned it is ridiculed and unfairly catheterized, thus, evolution is assumed, not proved and creation is denied, not refuted”
-John Morris The Young earth



He who joyfully marches in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would suffice.”
- Albert Einstein


Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.”
― Mark Twain



In logic, an argumentum ad populum (Latin for "appeal to the people") is a fallacious argument that concludes a proposition to be true because many or most people believe it. In other words, the basic idea of the argument is: "If many believe so, it is so."

Yes the majority do believe in evolution but that is not surprising when it is the only view taught in education from kindergarten through post graduate work. Evolution has become the state sponsored religion of our day and would not survive if not for tax money taken from citizens [many creationist] to fund the belief.

Absolute stranglehold materialistic atheism has on every thought that is allowed to be considered in the scientific and educational realms. This makes the American classroom one of the most censored, thought-controlled locations on the planet.”
-John Morris and Frank Sherwin The Fossil Record: Unearthing Nature's History of Life 2017


In a Muslim country there are very few Buddhists, Christians etc because all that is taught is Islam from the perspective it is true. The only thing you hear of other views is a Muslim bashing it for for some reason claiming its false. Same with evolution and creation. Collages courses high school textbooks all teach evolution as though its true and offer no critical thinking towards it or an opposing view. You must be willing to question authority, and than find information to even become a creationist. We are indoctrinated to believe in evolution. The schools are even allowed to lie in textbooks to get the students to believe in evolution so of course most will be evolutionist. Evolution is taught because of a court decision not because it has overwhelming support. http://creation.com/journal-of-creation-241

If the transitional forms [also take proof of evolution] had been found, they would be paraded for all to see. Creation evolution discussions would be welcomed in the since classrooms, rather than current censorship of any criticism directed against evolution”
-John Morris and Frank Sherwin The Fossil Record: Unearthing Nature's History of Life 2017


Than of the many who are “evolutionist” many only say so for two reasons even though they may not be. One is censorship. If you want grant money, want to publish, want to keep your job you better toe the line and conform. Hundreds of teachers, professors and researchers have lost their jobs because they did not bow down to the sacred cow of evolution so many more keep silent on their views on evolution. Second, there is a powerful human urge [some call it herd mentality] to conform with the group. The play nice and get along.

[P]eople are always more loyal to their tribal group than to any abstract notion of “truth”
scientists especially. If not they are unemployable. It is professional suicide to continually contradict one’s teachers or social leaders”
-Lynn Margulis


powerful human erge to belong inside the group to think like the majority...and to win the groups approval by trashing dissenters conformity and group think are attitudes of particular danger in science. Because progression depends on overturning established wisdom”
new york times 23 july 2009



It is also a worldview conflict. scientists, just like any other people, have biases and are subject to complicated personal motivations http://www.nsf.gov/news/news_summ.jsp?cntn_id=117697

People dont believe lies because they have to, but because they want to”
-Malcolm Muggeridge


Maybe the atheist cannot find God for the same reason a thief cannot find a policeman.”
~Author Unknown


The truth, indeed, is something that mankind, for some mysterious reason, instinctively dislikes. Every man who tries to tell it is unpopular, and even when, by the sheer strength of his case, he prevails, he is put down as a scoundrel.
H. L. Menck


The exact opposite of what is generally believed is often the truth”
Jean De La Bruyere 1645-1696



Evolution has become a religion and a way for man to reject god, so it is protected and accepted with religious fervor by its faithful who prefer a world with no accountability and are devoted to naturalistic explanations. These are not unbiased creatures but men with worldviews who are anti christian/creation.

the idea of a cooly rational scientific observer, completely independent free of all preconceived theories prior philosophical, ethical and religious commitments doing investigations and coming to dispassionate unbias conclusions that constitute truth, is nowadays regarded by serious philosophers of science and indeed most scientist as a simplistic myth”
-professor John Lennox, fellow in mathematics and philosophy of science oxford university



The stereotype of a rational and objective scientific method and individual scientist as logical and interchangeable robots is self-serving mythology”
- evolutionist Stepehn j Gould in the mind of the beholder natural history 103 feb 1994



Its been said that when human beings stop believing in god they believe in nothing. The truth is much worse, they believe in anything.”
- Malcolm maggeridge



Even if all of the data point to an intelligent designer, such a hypothesis is excluded from science because it is not naturalistic. “
-Todd, S. C. 1999. A view from Kansas on that evolution debate. Nature. 401 (6752): 423.


It is not that the methods and institutions of science somehow compel us to accept a material explanation of the phenomenal world, but, on the contrary, that we are forced by our a priori adherence to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation and a set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how counter-intuitive, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated. Moreover, that materialism is an absolute, for we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door.”
-Richard Lewontin, Billions and billions of demons, The New York Review, p. 31, 9 January 1997.


At this point, it is necessary to reveal a little inside information about how scientists work, something the textbooks don't usually tell you. The fact is that scientists are not really as objective and dispassionate in their work as they would like you to think. Most scientists first get their ideas about how the world works not through rigorously logical processes but through hunches and wild guesses. As individuals they often come to believe something to be true long before they assemble the hard evidence that will convince somebody else that it is. Motivated by faith in his own ideas and a desire for acceptance by his peers, a scientist will labor for years knowing in his heart that his theory is correct but devising experiment after experiment whose results he hopes will support his position.” -Boyce Rensberger, How the World Works, William Morrow, NY, 1986, pp. 17–18. Rensberger is an ardently anti-creationist science writer. See refutation of his Washington Post article attacking creation.


Science … is not so much concerned with truth as it is with consensus. What counts as “truth”? is what scientists can agree to count as truth at any particular moment in time … [Scientists] are not really receptive or not really open-minded to any sorts of criticisms or any sorts of claims that actually are attacking some of the established parts of the research (traditional) paradigm — in this case neo-Darwinism — so it is very difficult for people who are pushing claims that contradict the paradigm to get a hearing. They’ll find it difficult to [get] research grants; they’ll find it hard to get their research published; they’ll, in fact, find it very hard.’ Professor
-Evelleen Richards, Science Historian, University of NSW, Australia, Lateline, 9 October 1998, Australian Broadcasting Corporation.


evolutionist reject as a matter of printable not because of evidence “
-F.M harold 2001 the way of the cell molecules organisms and the order of life oxford university press new york new york


I want atheism to be true and am made uneasy by the fact that some of the most intelligent and well informed people I know are religious believers. It inset just that I dont believe in god and naturally, hope there is no god, I dont want there to be a god, I dont wont the universe to be like that.
-Philosopher Thomas nagel the last word,oxford university press new york 1997 p 30


Evolution is promoted by its practitioners as more than mere science. Evolution is promulgated as an ideology, a secular religion—a full-fledged alternative to Christianity, with meaning and morality. I am an ardent evolutionist and an ex-Christian, but I must admit that in this one complaint—and Mr [sic] Gish is but one of many to make it—the literalists are absolutely right. Evolution is a religion. This was true of evolution in the beginning, and it is true of evolution still today... Evolution therefore came into being as a kind of secular ideology, an explicit substitute for Christianity.’
-Michael Ruse was professor of philosophy and zoology at the University of Guelph, Canada (recently moved to Florida), He was the leading anti-creationist philosopher whose (flawed) arguments seemed to convince the biased judge to rule against the Arkansas ‘balanced treatment’ (of creation and evolution in schools) bill in 1981/2. At the trial, he and the other the anti-creationists loftily dismissed the claim that evolution was an anti-god religion.


"We no longer feel ourselves to be guests in someone else’s home and therefore obliged to make our behavior conform with a set of preexisting cosmic rules. It is our creation now. We make the rules. We establish the parameters of reality. We create the world; and because we do, we no longer feel beholden to outside forces. We no longer have to justly our behavior, for we are now the architects of the universe. We are responsible to nothing outside ourselves; for we are the kingdom, the power, and the glory forever and ever."—
-Jeremy Rifkin, Algeny (1983), p. 244.



All of the atheists I know are highly religious; it just doesn’t mean believing in the Bible or God. Religion is the basic belief system of the person. Mankind wants the answers to all unanswerable questions.’
-Ernst Mayr, once called ‘the world’s greatest living evolutionary biologist



"Humanism is the belief that man shapes his own destiny. It is a constructive philosophy, a non-theistic religion, a way of life."—
*-American Humanist Association, promotional brochure.
A co-developer of the Piltdown Man hoax, said this:
 
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Anyone who questions man’s reasoning, particularly on the origin of the physical world, faces an arrogance almost beyond comprehension. Many scientists realize the weak underpinnings of scientific models but the spokesmen of naturalism and their media advocates will not abide anything that questions either the supremacy of man, his reasoning power or his conclusions. I have seen media interviewers, who gladly try to tear Christian and conservative guests to pieces, grovel before a scientist who is [one of the] illuminati of evolutionary thought. No one would dare to try to question a living example of the superiority of man’s reasoning power. They are in the presence of a high priest of the one and only knowledge — let all the earth keep silent before him!’
-Dr Emmett Williams, Creation Research Society Quarterly, 29(2):84, September 1992


The theory of evolution (is) a theory universally accepted not because it can be proved by logically coherent evidence to be true but because the only alternative, special creation, is clearly incredible." -D.M.S. Watson, "Adaptation," Nature, Vol. 123 p. 233

All of the atheists I know are highly religious; it just doesn’t mean believing in the Bible or God. Religion is the basic belief system of the person. Mankind wants the answers to all unanswerable questions.’
-Ernst Mayr, once called ‘the world’s greatest living evolutionary biologist


I suppose the reason we why we lept at the orgin of species was that the idea of god interfered with our sexual mores-
-sir julien Huxley


"We believe that evolution somehow magically creates greater overall value and order on earth. Now that the environment we live in is becoming so dissipated and disordered that it is apparent to the naked eye, we are beginning for the first time to have second thoughts about our views on evolution, progress, and the creation of things of material value . . Evolution means the creation of larger and larger islands of order at the expense of ever greater seas of disorder in the world. There is not a single biologist or physicist who can deny this central truth. Yet, who is willing to stand up in a classroom or before a public forum and admit it?"
*Jeremy Rifkin, Entropy: A New World View (1980), p. 55.

I had motive for not wanting the world to have a meaning; consequently assumed that it had none, and was able without any difficulty to find satisfying reasons for this assumption. The philosopher who finds no meaning in the world is not concerned exclusively with a problem in pure metaphysics, he is also concerned to prove that there is no valid reason why he personally should not do as he wants to do, or why his friends should not seize political power and govern in the way that they find most advantageous to themselves. … For myself, the philosophy of meaninglessness was essentially an instrument of liberation, sexual and political.’
-Huxley, A., Ends and Means, 1937, pp. 270 ff.


"evolution is a anti-scientific fable intended to avoid accountability to god"
-2011 Dr David stone laser physicists with 5 degrees including PHD in mechanical endangering from Michigan state U creation mag 34 [1] 2012


Evolution can better be understood as the pseudo-scientific justification for a life lived without accountability to ones maker.”
-John D Morris and Frank Sherwin the fossil Record 2017



Our theories are more statements about us and our ideology than about the past. Paleontology revels more about how humans view themselves than it does about how humans came about. But that is Hersey”
-Piloeans review of Leakey's origins in American Statistic may-june 1978


"[The theory of evolution] forms a satisfactory faith on which to base our interpretation of nature."
—*L. Harrison Matthews, "Introduction to Origin of Species," p. xxii (1977 edition).


"Today the tables are turned. The modified, but still characteristically Darwinian theory has itself become an orthodoxy, preached by its adherents with religious fervor, and doubted, they feel, only by a few muddlers imperfect in scientific faith."
—*M. Grene, Faith of Darwinism," Encounter, November 1959, p. 49.


"What is it [evolution] based upon? Upon nothing whatever but faith, upon belief in the reality of the unseen—belief in the fossils that cannot be produced, belief in the embryological experiments that refuse to come off. It is faith unjustified by works."
—*Arthur N. Field



"Humanism is the belief that man shapes his own destiny. It is a constructive philosophy, a non-theistic religion, a way of life."
—*American Humanist Association, promotional brochure.


"[Karl] Popper warns of a danger: ‘A theory, even a scientific theory, may become an intellectual fashion, a substitute for religion, an entrenched dogma.’ This has certainly been true of evolutionary theory."—*Colin Patterson, Evolution (1977), p. 150.


"Evolution is sometimes the key mythological element in a philosophy that functions as a virtual religion." —*E. Harrison, "Origin and Evolution of the Universe," Encyclopaedia Britannica: Macropaedia (1974), p. 1007.

How easily susceptible researchers can be manipulated into believing that they have actually found just what they had been looking for.”
-biology philosopher Jane Maienschein Maienschein, J. 1997. The One and the Many: Epistemological Reflections on the Modern Human Origins Debates. Conceptual Issues in Modern Human Origins Research. Clark, G. A. and C. M. Willermet, eds. New York: Aldine de Gruyter, 413.


Self deception....scientist may exhibit irrational bias or give allegiance to their lies with only the most tenuous basis in fact...because it fell with preconceived wishes.”
-Eiseley L Fossil and Human evolution 1966



A real scientist is searching for truth about nature and not materialistic explanations”
-enzyme expert and creationist Dr matti leisola published over 120 papers which have been sited over 1,3000 times in the scientific literature



Despite all the above, thousands of scientist openly reject evolution.



Hundreds on the list

http://dissentfromdarwin.org/download/

Over 500 PHD's

https://www.creationresearch.org/

List

https://answersingenesis.org/creation-scientists/modern/

Historical list

https://answersingenesis.org/creation-scientists/historical/

list

http://creation.com/about-us

list

http://www.icr.org/research/team

list

some young earth creation collages with many phd scientist

http://www.liberty.edu/

http://www.bryan.edu/

http://www.cedarville.edu/

https://answersingenesis.org/creation-scientists/

https://2peter3.com/

Yet, in spite of these claims, I was able to with little difficulty assemble a list of almost 3,000

scientists and professors who reject Darwinism as defined as variation caused by mutations plus natural

selection ultimately accounts for all life forms, most of whom hold a Ph.D. degree in some field of science.

This is but a small percentage of the estimated 113,000 Darwin Skeptic scientists and academics in the

United States alone, accordingly to a Harvard researcher (Gross and Simmons, 2006).




"Let's be clear: the work of science has nothing whatever to do with consensus. Consensus is the business of politics. Science, on the contrary, requires only one investigator who happens to be right, which means that he or she has results that are verifiable by reference to the real world. In science, consensus is irrelevant. What is relevant is reproducible results. The greatest scientists in history are great precisely because they broke with consensus. There is no such thing as consensus science. If it’s consensus, it isn’t science. If it’s science, it isn’t consensus. Period. ..“the claim of consensus has been the first refuge of scoundrels it is a way to avoid debate by claiming the matter is already settled. Whenever you hear the consensus of scientist agrees on something or other... your being had”
-Michael Crichton Harvard Graduate
 
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Heresyphobia- Fear of deviation from traditional doctrine.
Gnosiophobia- Fear of knowledge.
Phronemophobia- Fear of thinking.

This describes creationism perfectly. :oldthumbsup:
 
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I almost laughed earlier when you mentioned how warm and polite it was here compared to other sites. But by now I think you can see that ad hominem attacks is all you will get in return.... Those here claiming to follow science rarely if ever offer any actual science. So if that type of debate was what you were looking for, you came to the wrong place.


Well more of the same, I am home than lol. It was actually my wifes idea to do this. I always try and see where i am most unwelcome thinking that is where i am needed the most. Where the liberals are, i follow.
 
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Than of the many who are “evolutionist” many only say so for two reasons even though they may not be. One is censorship. If you want grant money, want to publish, want to keep your job you better toe the line and conform. Hundreds of teachers, professors and researchers have lost their jobs because they did not bow down to the sacred cow of evolution so many more keep silent on their views on evolution. Second, there is a powerful human urge [some call it herd mentality] to conform with the group. The play nice and get along.

This is, of course, complete bunkum.

Scientific advancement has been predicated on turning over old ideas. In fact this is one of the chief complaints from creationists about science: that it continually "changes". Yet at the same time they accuse science of rigid dogmatism.

Ironically it is creationist beliefs that were overturned in the quest of scientific advancement. Yet creationists would have unwind the last 200+ years of scientific knowledge to protect their religious beliefs from the pesky investigation of reality.

Science ultimately is about figuring out the best understanding of reality possible. What creationists fail to acknowledge is that the reason people do science is because science is useful. We turn scientific knowledge into application which in turn is used to derive benefits for humankind.

Evolution falls under that category as it has various applications in fields of applied biology (e.g. agriculture, medicine, conservation biology, and so on). When it comes to industry the idea of propagating evolutionary thought just for the sake of it makes no sense. The dollars and jobs at stake are based on producing results and gaining competitive advantage. Therefore, if evolution were as false as creationists kept claiming it was, the first place you'd hear about it would be industry.

Yet strangely not only do you not hear anything from industry, but you have companies even patent applications of evolutionary theory.

If creationists had a superior alternative to biology evolution, they should be deriving applications from it and selling it to industry. They could make more money in a day doing then a year of theme park and faux museum tourism.
 
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Sigh. Poster who incorrectly identifies the logical fallacy turns around an employs it himself.

Look, if you have anything at all to say about the science of evolution, say it. Cutting and pasting endless quotations accomplishes not a blessed thing except wasting a little electricity.

At this point, you've demonstrated no knowledge of the science and a hilariously distorted understanding of the motivations of actual scientists. Everything you've posted is you echoing what somebody else thinks about evolution. Have you ever talked to a single professional biologist in your life? Seriously -- why are you just parroting other people's ideas? Don't just tell biologists why they do and think what they do -- try asking a question for a change. You might learn something.
 
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Where the liberals are, i follow.

This ain't about politics kiddo. It's about protecting the integrity of scientific knowledge from those who would rather us unwind the last 250+ years of it.
 
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Exactly^

Hes posting these ridiculous topics about how rivers should wash away the continents. I haven't heard such an absurd argument in...well, actually it hasnt been that long since there are quite a few nutters on this website.
 
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Cutting and pasting endless quotations accomplishes not a blessed thing except wasting a little electricity.

Not to mention hardly anyone would even read such endless walls of text. Brevity is a virtue.
 
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