Science has changed their views on human evolution

98cwitr said:

^^^neither could Jesus feeding 5000 people with five loaves of bread and two fish...explain that one, hot shot

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So, here again, you are saying that Jesus did not feed 5000 people with two fish and five loaves of bread?

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Till all are one.

Huh...I guess Jesus did not raise a dead man from the grave either.

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Till all are one.

98cwitr said:

no im not...I'm saying He did and Lazarus as well...here you go twisting my words again

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I asked a question.

How is that "twisting' your words?

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Till all are one.

98cwitr said:

because they are statements with a question mark at the end of you main sentences in each post...read what you posted.

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Again, asking a question is twisting your words?

God Bless

Till all are one.

Not only did most scientists believe in god at some point, religion was in fact one of our earliest attempts at science--the system by which we understand our world.

Although someone may have made light with their words, I don't believe science has ever strictly said we evolved from apes, but only that we are related to them and have common ancestors. In other words, whether you call our common ancestor an ape or not, the point is we are not descended from the other four great apes; they are our cousins.

On this, however, there is no longer any question; the issue is proven to about the same level of certainty that we can prove you are your father's child, or lightening is caused by electricity.

As an example of what I mean about certainty: I can claim to you that I have five dollars in my pocket. You may ask proof, at which point I can remove it and show it to you. In most contexts, we would agree that I reasonably proved the point. However, there is always room for some doubt; the bill could be counterfeit, for example.

That shred of doubt is a positively inspiring thing, and the source of humility in the scientific community.

If evolutionary processes had not been so elegantly and repeatedly proven, and if there were a shred of evidence that we appeared on the scene suddenly, the doubt would loom large and I have complete confidence we would know about it, and that the people who dedicate their lives to discovery would be hot on the trail.

DeaconDean said:

Brother, please understand that I do not want to get into an argument with you, rather, I'd like to know how can science reconcile the fact that scriptures do not address man "evolving" through a process "known as natural selection,".

I take the scriptures quite literally and:

"And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." -Gen. 2:7 (KJV)

That is not "natural selection," brother.

God Bless

Till all are one.

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I respect your right to interpret the Scriptures quite literally, but I believe that the Scriptures include symbolism, allegories, parables, metaphors, and other figures of speech. The literature that makes up the Holy Scriptures (The Bible) includes a number of different genres and I believe that the shift in Genres between Genesis 11 and 12 is a very important indication that there is a shift from epic tales used to teach spiritual truths to an historical narrative. This view is shared by very many Old Testament scholars, and it is empirically obvious that Genesis 6-8 cannot possibly be an accurate account of an historic event (see my post above).

PrincetonGuy said:

I respect your right to interpret the Scriptures quite literally, but I believe that the Scriptures include symbolism, allegories, parables, metaphors, and other figures of speech. The literature that makes up the Holy Scriptures (The Bible) includes a number of different genres and I believe that the shift in Genres between Genesis 11 and 12 is a very important indication that there is a shift from epic tales used to teach spiritual truths to an historical narrative. This view is shared by very many Old Testament scholars, and it is empirically obvious that Genesis 6-8 cannot possibly be an accurate account of an historic event (see my post above).

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Like i said, I'm not here to argue with you, been there, done that, got the tee-shirt. As you know, and thanks for recognizing my right to literally interpret the scriptures.

And I do take the creation account quite literally.

But I will say this, there are quite a lot in the Baptist area that feel the same way I do. And I'll not argue with you, but, there will be some who will.

This is bound to bring heated debating. And as long as I have it on record that I believe the first two chapters of Genesis as literally happened as stated, I'm good.

PG, thanks for your understanding.

God Bless

Till all are one.

I really agree with this quote...

"The Bible must be taken seriously, but not always literally and I do not agree with the doctrine of Biblical inerrancy, saying that it is not found in the Bible. He elaborates that

There may be discrepancies and errors in the sacred writings, but those truths that God wished to see included in the Scripture, and which are important to our salvation, are placed there without error. ... The Bible is not inerrant in detail, but God has ensured that no substantial errors, which mislead us about the nature of salvation, are to be found in Scripture." - Kieth Ward

Evolution and natural selection do in fact happen. Just ask yourself why you have to get a flu shot every year.

98cwitr said:

Kent State Researcher: Humans did not evolve from chimps - :: Cincinnati news story :: LOCAL 12 WKRC-TV in Cincinnati

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Science has absolutely never posited that humans evolved from chimps (if any scientist has said that he deserves to loose his credentials, that's just totally baloney), but that we evolved from a common ancestor that was neither a chimp nor a human.

Hello Fellow Posters! I cannot help but see a resemblance on Here in respect with; WE as Humans having a common ancestor to the Apes and at Times we seem quite a bit alike in some ways.
That is; while We observe apes in a restricted environment( in a pen or enclosure) They are often passive but do get ticked off if their space is violated or encroached upon by Others of their own kind....Man is also the same.
If any here have watched The Discovery channel, Chimps in the wild can be extremely aggressive toward one another, to the point of conniving and scheming against there fellow chimps ,stealing and desiring what their fellow chimps have , for mates, food or territory. They have even been seen killing each other to gain what they want. Not unlike Mankind.
Jane Goodall spent Years in the jungles and highland slopes of the mountains in Africa observing Gorillas and all of their particular Habits One of which reminds Me quite a bit of what goes on in these posts. Sort of Ape Like in nature instead of Beating their Chests Like the big Silver back Gorillas do ,they Joust and heckle each Other with the written word .
Man is not at all unlike His friends in the animal Kingdom that I have just described . He always wants to be right. He takes Pride in His prowessness and delights in setting others straight. That in itself is all Ok , to set someone Straight when They are wrong . But when They don't see eye to eye, that is not an invitation to brow beat in debates, the old attitude " I am right and You are wrong" and pull a tantrum , all the while never letting up til the fall of the oppponent that is primevil in nature and no better in behavior than the animals that God Made Man Superior over.
You may feel that I am harsh in My accusations against this sort of tit for tat posting , Bringing myself even closer to that man / animal division. But We as Christians Need to be set apart and not that We are above Our fellow Man but We are to be separate in thought word and deed, that makes it different and God knows our hearts. So lets go a little easier on each other We are after all in Dominion over the animals and the seas and the earth and all that is in it.
We are supposed to set the standard and example for others so lets not act like a just a bit over the animals , lets Try and be more like little Christs so that We will be good witnesses to the lost of this world. My Two Cents.....and God loves all of You so Brothers lOve each other in kind thats all: Precious is His Name in all the earth...Dave