Science debate

[lithium.]

For a while now most of the science thread here have been about evolution. I don't know about you guys, and gals , but I kind of get bored with talking about evolution now, it's mostly evolution is fake, and no evidence, and other stuff like that. There is a lot of people here that know a lot about science but we don't really talk about other theories much.

There is so many theories we can debate on, string theory, super string theory, big bang theory, etc... I bet few or a lot of you know about 10 Dimensional hyperspace.

 

[Warrior FC]

What about God then, I'll talk about Him!

I, myself, get tired of theories!

 

[seebs]

What I love is the way that the things that were impossible when I was a kid have mostly happened.

 

[lithium.]

Originally posted by seebs
What I love is the way that the things that were impossible when I was a kid have mostly happened.

Me to I love it also. I don't really ever say anymore that we can't do anything or make anything. I think we can do almost anything we want. I think the "theory of everything" used to be just like that just another impossible thing we couldn't do, but people are saying it is possible, and probably soon.

 

[Warrior FC]

Well that confirms also what the bible says about there being an increase in Knowledge before the return of Christ!

 

[lithium.]

so you have already talked about that, and there has been an increase of Knowledge for more than 500 years.

 

[Warrior FC]

Than His return is evidently getting closer and closer..

 

[lithium.]

Originally posted by Warrior FC
Than His return is evidently getting closer and closer..

sure... ok... have fun waiting. lets not try to get off topic.

 

[Warrior FC]

Also Seesaw,
This last generation knowledge has increased amazingly! My son is learning things in 2nd grade that I was learning in 6th grade!

Knowledge has never increased as fast as it has in this last generation even with things like computers and such!

 

[lithium.]

Originally posted by Warrior FC
Also Seesaw,
This last generation knowledge has increased amazingly! My son is learning things in 2nd grade that I was learning in 6th grade!

Knowledge has never increased as fast as it has in this last generation even with things like computers and such!

And... knowledge has always been increasing. And knowledge will probably increase faster forever or until all human life on earth dies.

 

[Warrior FC]

Originally posted by seesaw
sure... ok... have fun waiting. lets not try to get off topic.

Ok... see ya later bro, I gotta get some sleep!   I'll debate some more with ya tomorrow...Have a good night!

 

[lithium.]

Originally posted by Warrior FC
Ok... see ya later bro, I gotta get some sleep!   I'll debate some more with ya tomorrow...Have a good night!

good night, debate about what? god? not with me. lol

 

[Nathan Poe]

Originally posted by seesaw
so you have already talked about that, and there has been an increase of Knowledge for more than 500 years.

I mentioned this before. The "increase in knowledge" has been happening steadily since the Renaissance. And the Renaissance was a reaction to the Dark Ages, a thousand years of superstition and ignorance caused by.....the Church!

Aside from that, it's rather difficult to find a period in human history where knowledge was not being incresed. That shows the power of prophecy: if you frame the prophecy so that it could happen any time, you get to say "I told you so" when it happens.

 

[fragmentsofdreams]

Originally posted by Nathan Poe
I mentioned this before. The "increase in knowledge" has been happening steadily since the Renaissance. And the Renaissance was a reaction to the Dark Ages, a thousand years of superstition and ignorance caused by.....the Church!

Aside from that, it's rather difficult to find a period in human history where knowledge was not being incresed. That shows the power of prophecy: if you frame the prophecy so that it could happen any time, you get to say "I told you so" when it happens.

The Dark Ages was caused by the economic collapse of the Roman Empire. The Church was the place were knowledge was preserved, along with Islamic countries.

 

[Nathan Poe]

Originally posted by fragmentsofdreams
The Dark Ages was caused by the economic collapse of the Roman Empire. The Church was the place were knowledge was preserved, along with Islamic countries.

Preservered... not to mention hoarded. Knowledge kept in secret is no knowledge at all. But that's besides the point. Whatever the case, the Renaissance sparked an explosion in knowledge and culture (which, perhaps not coincidentally, also marked the birth of Humanism) which has been going strong for 500 years.

 

[kern]

Well, considering most people couldn't read in the "Dark Ages", they wouldn't have been able to do much with the Church's knowledge.

-Chris

 

[seebs]

Originally posted by Nathan Poe
I mentioned this before. The "increase in knowledge" has been happening steadily since the Renaissance. And the Renaissance was a reaction to the Dark Ages, a thousand years of superstition and ignorance caused by.....the Church!

Oh, yes. Monastaries, with their careful copying of books, certainly led to a great loss of knowledge.

It's popular to blame the Church for the "Dark Ages". I think it is wrong to do so; I think the Dark Ages were mostly a reaction to lack-of-Roman-empire.

And, for all you can say about how, allegedly, it was the Church's fault that Europe was so backwards... Where, exactly, did this Renaissance happen? Where did the Industrial Revolution happen? Why did all these places free of Christianity's allegedly baleful influence *NOT* make these leaps forward?

If the Church were really that bad for human learning, the Renaissance wouldn't have happened in Europe.

 

[seebs]

Originally posted by Nathan Poe
Preservered... not to mention hoarded. Knowledge kept in secret is no knowledge at all. But that's besides the point. Whatever the case, the Renaissance sparked an explosion in knowledge and culture (which, perhaps not coincidentally, also marked the birth of Humanism) which has been going strong for 500 years.

Yup. And started, by most accounts, in one of the more heavily-Christian areas of the world. Knowledge hoarded against a time when people learn to read is, indeed, knowledge preserved. No one was keeping this stuff secret - but no one was interested in it. Do you honestly think that, had you gone to a monastary that kept books, and asked to learn about them, they would have refused?

 

[Nathan Poe]

Point taken.

 

[JohnR7]

Originally posted by Nathan Poe
I mentioned this before. The "increase in knowledge" has been happening steadily since the Renaissance. And the Renaissance was a reaction to the Dark Ages, a thousand years of superstition and ignorance caused by.....the Church! 

Just what is the "Dark Ages". It sounds to me just one more of the many myths perpetuated by athiests to try and discredit christianity and make it look bad.