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Science and Noahs flood are a good match.

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What do you suppose would happen if a meteor on the larger side hit in deep ocean instead of land?

How big of a wave do you suppose it would make?

Absolutely huge - way way way beyond tsunamis. There are simulations of this online. Google it.
 
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If you are saying he Earths surface is not stable, you may be right depending on how you define stable.

“There is nothing in the Mosaic books that yields its meaning on the surface. No rabbi ever read Genesis literally until modern times!” - Rabbi Jonathan Sacks

Your foot note is interesting but Jesus did read it literally and I think he would qualify.

Matthew 24: 37 & 38 As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark;
 
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Assyrian: You're right, something has struck me as being slightly fishy about the whole "35 fragments struck the earth at the same time" business, and I've finally put my finger on it: asteroids* don't break up for nothing.

For an asteroid to break up, different parts of it need to be pulled either with forces in different directions, or with different amounts of force in the same direction. Now the only force we need to consider during an asteroid impact is gravity, and when an asteroid is quite near the earth the gravitational forces on all its parts point in almost the same direction. And if an asteroid were to collide head-on with the earth, all its parts would experience about the same amount of force, and it would have no reason to break apart.


On the other hand, an asteroid making a glancing impact with the earth would certainly be able to "slough off" some of the material on the side closer to the earth, allowing multiple fragments to hit at the same time. But this raises two questions:


1. How freaking large would the original asteroid have to be to break off 35 large-sized fragments? For the asteroid to break off into that many pieces of such substantial mass, it would have to be going very fast - and if it were going very fast, a large portion of the asteroid would simply not collide with the earth at all, so the original asteroid mass would be even larger (at least double) than just the total mass of the 35 impactors.


2. Do all the fragments look like they were created by glancing impacts all facing the same direction? It is highly unlikely. There is an obvious difference between a glancing and a head-on impact: while a head-on impact would have a fairly symmetrical, circular rim, a glancing impact would show a groove in one direction and a large buildup of material opposite it.

I do not think meteors form any other shape but round craters.
I have not checked it recently so I could be wrong.

I have often wondered where the moon came from.
Your idea of something large passing by and leaving pieces is interesting.

Just having the moon wandering by and being captured has been ruled out I think. :cool:
 
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For an asteroid to break up, different parts of it need to be pulled either with forces in different directions, or with different amounts of force in the same direction. Now the only force we need to consider during an asteroid impact is gravity, and when an asteroid is quite near the earth the gravitational forces on all its parts point in almost the same direction. And if an asteroid were to collide head-on with the earth, all its parts would experience about the same amount of force, and it would have no reason to break apart.
You are neglecting several things here. Friction between the incoming asteroid and the atmosphere - i.e. drag force
Structure of the asteroid - external shape (and most asteroids are irregular) will determine local hot spots where the ablation of material varies from other areas - this will produce a differential body force on the asteroid - also asteroids are not homogeneous, the differing materials will have different ablation rates, different thermal properties etc etc. PLUS the internal structure will have faults, possible porosity etc etc. which will cause chunks to break off. Think the last shuttle disaster - it didn't survive as one piece did it. It broke up in the upper atmosphere.


I do not think meteors form any other shape but round craters.
I have not checked it recently so I could be wrong.
You are wrong - they can come in at very shallow angles and create distinctly non-circular impacts. Also the geology of the impact area can affect this as well.
 
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You are correct craters can be oval but they are rare bcasues the energy released on impact tends to be more of an explosion then an impact.
I am not sure I understand this completely.

The bold text at the top of the last post was quoted from Assyarin.
I agree with him so the correction is appreaciated but I did not want to take credit for anothers work. :cool:
 
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The bold text at the top of the last post was quoted from Assyarin.
I agree with him so the correction is appreaciated but I did not want to take credit for anothers work. :cool:
duordi - why not use the quote tags like I do? Makes posts much clearer to follow.
 
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I recently returned to the site after a few years away and I discovered I can not even paste a web site into the text.

I plan on spending some time going through the help information before I start another thread so I can learn how to use the site.

At the same time I felt I owed it to the others posting on a thread I started to answer them the best I was able.

Duordi :cool:
 
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