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Nice to have an update, shame it took so long coming.

Will we get the blessings in our savings back?
The blessings issue is clearly the most urgent technical issue, since people paid for blessings.
At present, CF may be risking legal action.
How does one pay for blessings
I have never had to pay for mine

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now you know
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I can't even remember how much I had in my savings...I am pretty sure it was at least double what I have in checking

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The arcade for me is "cute" but entirely unnecessary. People can play online games just about anywhere these days, including nearly all your typical social networking sites. I'd rather see the blessings system come back online asap.

As far as editing or expanding code features to this site again there is a list of items that we all have asked to see return and Paul is aware but his focus has been making sure that CF is stable first and foremost.

I just wanted to mention something about this. It really got to me the other day when I first read it.. it is nothing against you arborvita, or you Pauler, or the site itself, but rather it is strictly a general observation.

I left CF two or three years ago now. When I left, the admins were saying the exact same thing.. waiting for CF to be "stable".

In three years, not a single thing has changed -- in fact things have clearly gotten worse.

I just thought that was worth stating... it would seem based on logical deduction that there is no end in sight to CF's instability.

It's really unfortunate.
 
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If I recall correctly, part of that issue is CF has so heavily modified vBulliten (Version 3.7.0) that they're running a very outdated version, (with all the security issues included)
 
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If I recall correctly, part of that issue is CF has so heavily modified vBulliten (Version 3.7.0) that they're running a very outdated version, (with all the security issues included)

Sometimes I think it would be better to wipe the whole thing, re-install, and start from scratch Sometimes there's a point where you have to cut bait and start again.
 
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I would pick Blessings to come back. Arcade as someone said was "fun", but I rarely played in it.

Blessings on the other hand has a whole area dedicated to it (blessing exchange) and people play hundreds of games on CF to gain more blessings, and also people have saved up for years (including myself). A lot of my games that I make up for the Singles area involved giving out blessings.

A large number of members only play in the Blessings Exchange area. I fear they would stop coming here if the blessings did not come back.
 
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Sometimes I think it would be better to wipe the whole thing, re-install, and start from scratch Sometimes there's a point where you have to cut bait and start again.

IF this was my site
1) I'd buy a spare computer for testing
2) Copy the database to the new server.
3) Install a Clean vBulliten
4) See what has to be done to keep In Order
4a) Post / Threads (Should be the simplest)
4b) PMs
4c) User blogs
4d) User Profiles (Might be reduced depending on code)
4d) Blessings / Reps (Build into VBulletin also)
4e) User Customization
5) Verify that the conversion script can be run to convert the old DB to a new compatible format .
6) Check skins ect.
7) test (Maybe even get a small subset of users to help test the copy site)
8) convert if stable.

Then slowly add the other bells & whistles back.
 
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Which makes perfectly good sense to me, rather than trying to reverse-engineer a bunch of buggy outdated software to try to get it to work again.

In all honesty I'd rather see a clean, stable site with nothing other than the ability to post, rather than have a site with "extras" that don't even work.. I mean it's a forum at the end of the day, all 80% of us need is a place to post, we can get by with the basics if stability is right around the corner with the option of expansion into the bells and whistles again. Rather than going another 3 years trying to chase bugs and leaving users hanging, doesn't this logically sound like the better solution?

What do I know though.
 
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