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[Caty]

okay, i read somewhere that the unforgivable sin was if someone deliberatly tried to slander God and wanted to lead people astray. So now I have a fear that because I have posted things dealing with my Ocd, that I might have lead people astray. Or I fear that I might have had hate or slander in my heart. I'm so scared about this. Do you all think that I have typed anything like that???

 

[dabro]

Ummmm... I have'nt really read much of your post, but I do say that take the Pharisee's for instance... they refused to accept Jesus for what he is and the Holy spirit... and they shut the doors for anybody else because they loved there tradition that much that they would try to convert them into what they believed was true. We all know that Christs ways are the truth. If we tell ourselves thats not it then we decieve our selves and that is unforgivable... But no, I don't think by what you have wrote down that you were leading anyone astray. I know what your saying and we all have said something before that would cause confusion. But your not trying to lets say convert someone Ya know what I mean like the pharisee...Hope this helps...

 

[Jayangel81]

Or I fear that I might have had hate or slander in my heart. I'm so scared about this. Do you all think that I have typed anything like that???

Bible calls our hearts wicked. we are all guilty of this if not to man than to God even through our actions.

If you ever lead anyone astray or have had any type of bitterness or anger, all you need to do is confess it to the Lord Jesus Christ, repent and ask for forgiveness. Than you need to forgive yourself.

From your posts I have seen nothing of the sorts, this is one more way to disconnect you from having an intimate relationship with the Lord and trusting in Him for your salvation.

Pray and ask the Lord if this has ever happened in your life, speak to the Holy Spirit and if this happened than God will convict you.

 

[Caty]

Okay, see I fear this because when I was having the fear that I had committed the unforgivable sin, I asked some people if I had (after telling them my situation) nobody would really say Yes or No, they would just say, "that it couldn’t contradict the Bible." Or that, "I should listen to this or read this and it will tell me the answer." So I thought maybe they are afraid & don’t know the real answer so they don’t want to tell me Yes or No. So I kept asking them just to see if they would say it, to put my fears to rest. I feel horrible about this now, I hope I didn’t make these people blaspheme. I hate myself; I really hate everything about myself for this. I have repented. Is this forgivable, I’m really scared. I hope that I didn’t commit the unforgivable sin by keeping after these people just to see if they would say that I’m forgivable. I don't think I did it to be mean, I think it was just to ease my fears.

 

[keryakos]

okay, i read somewhere that the unforgivable sin was if someone deliberatly tried to slander God and wanted to lead people astray. So now I have a fear that because I have posted things dealing with my Ocd, that I might have lead people astray. Or I fear that I might have had hate or slander in my heart. I'm so scared about this. Do you all think that I have typed anything like that???

no ..first off you did not mean to lead people astray that wasn't youre intent even if you did do that ..but you are doing what i did when billy grahams wife died ..a story was told by her son at her funeral about something she did to him that WAS INDEED Child abuse ..no mistake about it ..so i thought or said she was evil ..well i knew she was a christian the Holy Spirit is inside of her .
so i thought i blasphemed the Holy Ghost ..But that was way out of the ball park .. it was just a not well thought out statement i had not thought out ..what she did was evil but she was not and neither was the Holy Ghost in her ..my point being my worry was unfounded and so is youres ..
just like mine it doesn't even come close .

 

[Jayangel81]

I hate myself; I really hate everything about myself for this.

Whatever we do in our lives we cannot go on hating ourselves, yes sometimes we do things we hate, honestly I think fear is driving this and you have nothing to worry about, you are reading too much into it.

I have repented.Is this forgivable

Like I said you really are reading too much into this, as I said in the above post, when we do something that is sin we need to confess, repent and put our faith and trust in the forgiveness

 

[Caty]

So I shouldn't worry about this?? I was frustrated that they were not telling me yes or no. And I tired to get them to tell me the answer, I thought about, "what if they are afraid to answer." But it was like I wanted to test them or something to see if they would answer. I hope this isn't it. I'm so scared with everything I do, I've finally got to the point where the blasphemous thoughts don't scare me as bad, now I'm worrying about this. I just want all my fears of the unforgivable sin to go away! I want to try to get to know God, but these fears are keeping me from him, because I worry if I've commitied the unforgivable sin then God doesn't want me, I don't know what to do.

 

[keryakos]

So I shouldn't worry about this?? I was frustrated that they were not telling me yes or no. And I tired to get them to tell me the answer, I thought about, "what if they are afraid to answer." But it was like I wanted to test them or something to see if they would answer. I hope this isn't it. I'm so scared with everything I do, I've finally got to the point where the blasphemous thoughts don't scare me as bad, now I'm worrying about this. I just want all my fears of the unforgivable sin to go away! I want to try to get to know God, but these fears are keeping me from him, because I worry if I've commitied the unforgivable sin then God doesn't want me, I don't know what to do.

I can safely and honestly say that you should not worry about this ..the likely reason that they didn't answer one way or the other is because they didn't know what to say because they might not have had thise particular question brought up to them .. They were probably stumped in other words .
I can say for an absolute certainty that according to what you have written in this thread that you did not commit the unpardonable sin .
Lets think about this for a moment ..where in the bible does it say that if you lead people astray that you will not be forgiven ..IT DOESN'T .
You see the Pharisees tried to lead people astray it is true, ..but they did it by declaring that Jesus was Satanic when they knew that this wasn't true ,
You haven't done this ..You can lead people astray inadvertenly but you cannot do what the Pharisees did inadvertenly ..
Also let me assure you that Paul lead others astray when he railed against the Christians ,,,he was forgiven ..

You did not mean to lead others astray ..If you did it you did it not realizing the full implications of what you were doing .
And lets suppose you had done it intentionally ..you did not do what the Pharisees did ,,so yes this particular fear is unfounded .

 

[Caty]

okay...i feel like maybe my mind is trying to find things to condem me for. i worry about if i have done something like this and didn't remember it & maybe that's why i feel so bad. id on't know, i just want to trust Jesus for my forgiveness but every time i do i feel to bad too. i feel guilty for reading the Bible or for listening my Christian cds, because i feel like that's not for me. has anyone else ever felt like this.

 

[pjspara]

yes.. i think we have all felt like you at one time or another.... condemnation isnt coming from the LOrd tho..... when i have those feelings, i just push thru them and keep on listening to christian tapes, and reading my bible, because no matter how i feel, i KNOW thats what the LOrd wants me to do....

guilt and condemnation DO NOT come from GOD... HE redeemed us NO MATTER HOW YOU FEEL.....so just push it aside the best you can... OCD will try to get you to focus on whats most important to you,(your salvation and biblical issues etc..... )and the devil will then use it for his gain....and its a vicious cycle..... if you werent in GODS hands... i dont believe you would care or bother with any of this.....

its a doubting issue we have, but look at it this way who can you trust??

a. yourself or
b. God


i choose to let GOD take care of my questions and MUST trust HIM because i have already proven what a loser and failure i am....

so if i dont understand something or think ive done something wrong, i just tell HIM about it, ask for forgiveness if i DID do something HE wouldnt like , and let it go... because HE said HE came to forgive all sins.. past present and future... HE already knows it allll so just give HIM your worries every morning, and then dont take them back......

your sis in Christ



stay strong in the struggle

pj

that is my firm belief....

 

[Caty]

thanks guys for all of your help, i just can't seem to get past the fear that i have commited the unforgivable sin and i don't remember it.