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Scammers Killed my Friend

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Well I dont play MMO RPGs much and I have played GW only a few times to explore. I know that he did scam my friend from the images and email that was recovered from the hard drive and outlook, but I feel in part they are responsible. They scammed my friend of gold or items but in life they have a value. I feel that they cheated him out of his life and game items or the gold. And people may say that the game items dont have value but I checked ebay and found that game and item are worth money. Dont know how much real money was scammed probablly not a lot but the scammers did scam and the take in game money/items really equivilent to cash. I think the company that makes the game should reveal the personal .

First of all I'm sorry for the loss. But the game makers can't be blamed and the scammers can't be directly blamed either. Obviously something else was wrong. As for what you said above, those in-game items don't hold any legal value. They are sold on eBay, but if A-net ever wanted to prosecute the sellers, they could because the in-game items belong to A-net.

Also, you say they did not ban the person. Well, people reported the first time usually don't get banned. They usually get a "timeout" from the game. A limited banning. However, you wouldn't know what the consequences are regardless because A-net doesn't tell anyone who they ban. So how do you know for sure?

The problem is he was too caught up in the game. Yes, the scammer might have been the deciding factor, but the scammer did not hurt or scam anything of his actual possession. It is sad that your friend decided to do what he did. It is sad that the scammer did what he did. But the scammer shouldn't be blamed. And don't even think about a lawsuit. It wouldn't hold up at all. Plus, what if that other person is really a 12-year old kid? Do you really think it'd be worth it?
 
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I'm still at a loss for words here.....for proof of said suicide. I'm thinking people are becoming more and more gullible by thinking that someone actually did this. Sorry if I'm a bit more realistic than others here, but suicide over a game? In all my time gaming, testing ect not once have I ever heard of someone taking his life over a game. There is a big difference by showing a pic of someone threatening to do this, and actually believing it.
 
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Yeah I went to post on gwguru and they nipped that topic in the bud very quickly.

I did the same thing. Without hard evidence, you cannot say that AN did or did not ban those people, and topics like that will lead to a flamefest in a very big hurry. I dont blame the Guru staff for doing that, as we did the same thing. Trying to stop a flame war before it starts.
 
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I don't mind that they close a thread, but the complete deletion of the thread is alittle overkill. Give people the opportunity to discuss the topic at hand, and when the time comes just close it. I don't see the need of removing it in its entirety.


If it indeed happened, I feel for the person and their family and friends. But at this stage of the game it is indeed very difficult not to refute it.
 
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It is fine that you dont belive me. Some might argue that I show no evidence that my friend died. Some might bring up the point that it isnt over the news like that GTA game. I believe because he was a minor and our smallish city didnt want the bad media attention or because it was just a suicide that the media wanst that much involved. Also the parents did not want to be bothered with even more hurt.

After searching google I found a sad incident. Some guy killed himself over EverQuest. It sucks that happened.

I heard High Chuntaya, Diomedes Thegod and Be Easy arnt banned. I am just mad that ANET does nothing. A simple ban could go a long way for me. I dont care much actually cause I dont play this game anymore. Just that I could stop the scammers would do some good.
 
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It's just that fact....Anet shouldn't have to do anything. It's not Anet's fault that this kid might have killed himself.....neither is it the fault of the people that did the scam. Responsibility goes with your friend.
 
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How would it do them justice? Did they cause the disorder that lead to the suicide? Did they pull the trigger, or force him to swallow the pills. No they did not. It's natural for us to harbor resentment when it's easy for us to throw blame down, especially for a grievous loss. However responsibility lies with the one who killed himself....for instead of turning to get help took his own life.
 
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I don't know a nice way to put this but, if your friend killed himself over that he/she is pathetic. They had MUCH more problems outside that game. I have been conned out of thousands of plat on a game called EQ. I didn't kill myself over it. I just sucked it up and made more. I reported it and Sony..then 989 Studios/Verant Interactive stated it was my fault. The game creators are not online police. You have to watchout for these things anyways. Read the EULA of Guild Wars and you will see. In EQ's EULA it says (and I am not going to quote cause I am not sure if its exact but it goes something like) all in-game trades, sales or any other transactions are final. NOW, if your friends account was hacked which is easy to do on that game, THEN and only then would game creators do some searching. Other then that, I must say that was just the final straw on the camels back for your friend. I am sorry for your loss but, there was MUCH more going on with your friend.
BTW, I am curious about what kind of sleeping pills they were because there is NO way to OD on Diphenhydramine HCI(Tylenol) or Doxylamine(Unisom) you can get rather sick but not die.
 
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