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Saving yourself for marriage
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Arthra
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"Well I guess it would be technically, but it's not like it would matter...."
You know that's to me part of a problem .... We assume and I would include myself here some time ago... that what we do with our sexual relationships won't matter..but in time I've found it does matter...things have a way of "biting us in the butt" in the long term.
We would like to imagine that what we do is in a vacuum and will have no influence whatsoever but it does I think..
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You know that's to me part of a problem .... We assume and I would include myself here some time ago... that what we do with our sexual relationships won't matter..but in time I've found it does matter...things have a way of "biting us in the butt" in the long term.
We would like to imagine that what we do is in a vacuum and will have no influence whatsoever but it does I think..
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Well I think marriage is the only proper institution where sexual relationship can occur and not be problematic.. I suppose some people will argue that..but your comment is telling:
"...with regards to our past sexual relationships, of which between the two of us is quite a few (me 7 him 10-15ish). For both of us, what we did in the past is in the past, and who we had sex with before we knew eachother is not of any real consequence."
I know for you that's important.... to say it was in the past and has no real consequence... but what I've found is that most of us want there to be no consequences when there can be some, that is we are not aware or choose to be not aware of the consequences. There are standards in society involved and examples of behaviour set and all these have some consequences and influences on others that we probably would like to ignore or forget about...at least that's how I see it.
- Art
"...with regards to our past sexual relationships, of which between the two of us is quite a few (me 7 him 10-15ish). For both of us, what we did in the past is in the past, and who we had sex with before we knew eachother is not of any real consequence."
I know for you that's important.... to say it was in the past and has no real consequence... but what I've found is that most of us want there to be no consequences when there can be some, that is we are not aware or choose to be not aware of the consequences. There are standards in society involved and examples of behaviour set and all these have some consequences and influences on others that we probably would like to ignore or forget about...at least that's how I see it.
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I am saving myself for marriage, but it's not like I have a choice. Nobody likes me...
So am I, but it is by choice...which is precisely the reason why nobody likes me.
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Wow...forward demands?
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The apostle Paul said that if unmarried people cannot control their sexual desires then they should get married:
"Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I am. But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion." 1 Corinthians 7:8-9
According to this, if unmarried people are not able to be celibate (as Paul was) and they find themselves burning with sexual desire, then they should get married in order to avoid committing any sexual sins. This means that sex outside of marriage is a sin, as the following passage also indicates:"Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman [or, "It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman," according to the NIV footnote]. Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband." 1 Corinthians 7:1-2, KJV
Paul had a very specific reason why people should get married: "to avoid fornication."
Fornification defined:
"Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I am. But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion." 1 Corinthians 7:8-9
According to this, if unmarried people are not able to be celibate (as Paul was) and they find themselves burning with sexual desire, then they should get married in order to avoid committing any sexual sins. This means that sex outside of marriage is a sin, as the following passage also indicates:"Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman [or, "It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman," according to the NIV footnote]. Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband." 1 Corinthians 7:1-2, KJV
Paul had a very specific reason why people should get married: "to avoid fornication."
Fornification defined:
- "to have sex with someone who you are not married to"
- "Fornication: Sexual intercourse that is "illicit", outside of marriage."
- "fornication n. sexual intercourse between a man and woman who are not married to each other."
- "consensual sexual intercourse between two persons not married to each other"
- "NOUN: Sexual intercourse between partners who are not married to each other.
WORD HISTORY: The word fornication had a lowly beginning suitable to what has long been the low moral status of the act to which it refers. The Latin word fornix, from which fornicti, the ancestor of fornication, is derived, meant "a vault, an arch." The term also referred to a vaulted cellar or similar place where prostitutes plied their trade. This sense of fornix in Late Latin yielded the verb fornicr, "to commit fornication," from which is derived fornicti, "whoredom, fornication." Our word is first recorded in Middle English about 1303." - "c.1300, from O.Fr. fornication, from L.L. fornicationem (nom. fornicatio), from fornicari "fornicate," from L. fornix (gen. fornicis) "brothel," originally "arch, vaulted chamber" (Roman prostitutes commonly solicited from under the arches of certain buildings), from fornus "oven of arched or domed shape." Strictly, "voluntary sex between an unmarried man and an unmarried woman;" extended in the Bible to adultery."
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So am I, but it is by choice...which is precisely the reason why nobody likes me.
No... I'd say that your problem is that you don't like anyone. Which is why you have not gotten married yet.
I'd say the same for Clark_98C.
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Hey Dracon,
If I could rearrange the vowels in the alphabet, I'd make 'u' the 9th letter and 'i' the 21st letter.
Call me...
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Hey Dracon,
If I could rearrange the vowels in the alphabet, I'd make 'u' the 9th letter and 'i' the 21st letter.
Call me...
Yo man she's totally taken.
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I thought that is how it went.
Plus, I got nervous, my palms started to sweat and I got a nose bleed while writing that post... I was going through alot of pressure.
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I thought that is how it went.
Plus, I got nervous, my palms started to sweat and I got a nose bleed while writing that post... I was going through alot of pressure.
Well, if it makes you feel any better, it isn't just you. There is nothing any male can say that would convince me to date them.
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Wont stop 'em from trying
Guys can get creative when they are smitten. One of my close friends is lesbian and she had a guy chasing her for about two years. I have to say it was kind of endearing and he got REALLY creative but Im sure it got rather irritating after a while.
Im curious to the Christian perspective on pre-marital sex regarding people who cannot get married. What do you do in that case?
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Wont stop 'em from trying
Guys can get creative when they are smitten. One of my close friends is lesbian and she had a guy chasing her for about two years. I have to say it was kind of endearing and he got REALLY creative but Im sure it got rather irritating after a while.
Im curious to the Christian perspective on pre-marital sex regarding people who cannot get married. What do you do in that case?
Tell us we are meant to be celibate and alone, but not be either themselves.
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