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[Unsavable]

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Can a person know that Christ is the true Son of God and died for the sins of mankind and yet not be saved?

 

[SkyWriting]

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Can a person know that Christ is the true Son of God and died for the sins of mankind and yet not be saved?

Faith and Trust in God are the Key.
Knowledge has no value if not internalized or made real.
Knowing God Through Answered Prayer - Steps 1,2,&3

 

[The Great ascension]

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Can a person know that Christ is the true Son of God and died for the sins of mankind and yet not be saved?

Not be saved, if He still live in sinful way. God said Hebrews 12:14 Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:

 

[pleinmont]

I got unsaved when I realised my faith had no validity.

 

[HTacianas]

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Can a person know that Christ is the true Son of God and died for the sins of mankind and yet not be saved?

According to the bible the men and women of Samaria believed and were baptized but did not receive the Holy Spirit until they were chrismated by the apostles. Paul also met disciples in Ephesus who believed but had not received the Holy Spirit.

 

[Tolworth John]

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Can a person know that Christ is the true Son of God and died for the sins of mankind and yet not be saved?

More to the point do you believe as true that Jesus did thisc for you?

Plenty of people believe that Christian believe this, but do not believe it was for them.

 

[eleos1954]

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Can a person know that Christ is the true Son of God and died for the sins of mankind and yet not be saved?

Yes .... even demons know ...

Even Demons know who God/Jesus is.

1. Only One God Exists

Demons understand that there is only one God who has existence - the God of the Bible.

You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe - and shudder (James 2:19).

2. They Know The Identity Of Christ

They understand Jesus' true nature, yet they are not committed to Him.

saying, What have we to do with You, Jesus of Nazareth? Are You come to destroy us? I know You, who You are, the Holy One of God (Mark 1:24).

The demons realize that Jesus is the Son of God, and that He has authority over them.

3. They Know Their Fate

Demons know their eventual fate.

And behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with You, Son of God? Are You come here to torment us before the time? (Matthew 8:29).

They realize that judgment is coming for them - a judgment they cannot escape.

4. Submit To Authority Of Christ

Demons know Christ, and submit to His authority. When Christ commanded, the demons obeyed.

And the demons besought Him, saying, If You drive us out, send us away into the herd of swine. And He said unto them, Go. And they came out, and went into the swine: and behold, the whole herd rushed down the cliff into the sea, and perished in the waters (Matthew 8:31,32).

5. Demons Know Genuine Believers

Demons also know those who have truly believed in Christ.

And the evil spirit answered and said unto them, Jesus I know, and Paul I know, but who are you? (Acts 19:15).

6. Submit To Believers Under Christ's Authority

The disciples of Jesus were given power over demons.

Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse the lepers, drive out demons: freely you received, freely give (Matthew 10:8).

This power over the demons became manifest.

And the seventy returned with joy, saying, Lord, even the demons are subject unto us in Your name . . . [Jesus said] Nevertheless in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rejoice that your names are written in heaven (Luke 10:17,20).

Demons have to submit to believers under the authority of Jesus.

Summary

Demons know their limitations. They understand that only one God exists and they must submit to Him. They also know who Jesus is, and they submit to His authority. Demons realize that they will eventually be judged. They also know the identity of genuine believers. Those who believe in Jesus have power over the demons and should not be frightened of them.

 

[Peter John]

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Can a person know that Christ is the true Son of God and died for the sins of mankind and yet not be saved?

Yes, all those in established churches & denominations, who have not been chosen by God.

 

[pleinmont]

Yes .... even demons know ...

Even Demons know who God/Jesus is.

1. Only One God Exists

Demons understand that there is only one God who has existence - the God of the Bible.

You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe - and shudder (James 2:19).

2. They Know The Identity Of Christ

They understand Jesus' true nature, yet they are not committed to Him.

saying, What have we to do with You, Jesus of Nazareth? Are You come to destroy us? I know You, who You are, the Holy One of God (Mark 1:24).

The demons realize that Jesus is the Son of God, and that He has authority over them.

3. They Know Their Fate

Demons know their eventual fate.

And behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with You, Son of God? Are You come here to torment us before the time? (Matthew 8:29).

They realize that judgment is coming for them - a judgment they cannot escape.

4. Submit To Authority Of Christ

Demons know Christ, and submit to His authority. When Christ commanded, the demons obeyed.

And the demons besought Him, saying, If You drive us out, send us away into the herd of swine. And He said unto them, Go. And they came out, and went into the swine: and behold, the whole herd rushed down the cliff into the sea, and perished in the waters (Matthew 8:31,32).

5. Demons Know Genuine Believers

Demons also know those who have truly believed in Christ.

And the evil spirit answered and said unto them, Jesus I know, and Paul I know, but who are you? (Acts 19:15).

6. Submit To Believers Under Christ's Authority

The disciples of Jesus were given power over demons.

Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse the lepers, drive out demons: freely you received, freely give (Matthew 10:8).

This power over the demons became manifest.

And the seventy returned with joy, saying, Lord, even the demons are subject unto us in Your name . . . [Jesus said] Nevertheless in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rejoice that your names are written in heaven (Luke 10:17,20).

Demons have to submit to believers under the authority of Jesus.

Summary

Demons know their limitations. They understand that only one God exists and they must submit to Him. They also know who Jesus is, and they submit to His authority. Demons realize that they will eventually be judged. They also know the identity of genuine believers. Those who believe in Jesus have power over the demons and should not be frightened of them.

There is no evidence whatsoever that demons exist outside of the human imagination.

 

[Unsavable]

There is no evidence whatsoever that demons exist outside of the human imagination.

You're a demon aren't you?!

 

[eleos1954]

There is no evidence whatsoever that demons exist outside of the human imagination.

You think that way because your require something physical as "evidence" ... there is more than just the physical.

 

[paul1149]

Can a person know that Christ is the true Son of God and died for the sins of mankind and yet not be saved?

Knowledge can only take you to the threshold of saving faith. At that point you have to accept the faith as your own and submit yourself to it.

 

[Unsavable]

Knowledge can only take you to the threshold of saving faith. At that point you have to accept the faith as your own and submit yourself to it.

So suppose you submit yourself to it but nothing happens?

 

[ToddNotTodd]

You think that way because your require something physical as "evidence" ... there is more than just the physical.

Is this something you can demonstrate?

 

[Unsavable]

Is this something you can demonstrate?

I don't want to suppress conversation but this really goes way off topic. Unless you can tie this into belief vs salvation.

 

[pleinmont]

You're a demon aren't you?!

However did you guess?

 

[eleos1954]

Is this something you can demonstrate?

I don't want to suppress conversation but this really goes way off topic. Unless you can tie this into belief vs salvation.

and I agree.

 

[paul1149]

So suppose you submit yourself to it but nothing happens?

As in what - feelings? Feelings have nothing to do with it. If you understand that Christ is Lord, you submit yourself to all that implies. And if you don't feel anything, you keep on submitting. You keep asking, seeking, knocking. You keep digging your foundation deeper. The feelings will come when they come.

 

[Maria Billingsley]

Hello all,

Thank you in advance for sharing your thoughts and ideas on this question.

Can a person know that Christ is the true Son of God and died for the sins of mankind and yet not be saved?

One must receive the Holy Spirit in order to be in the Body of Christ. This takes more than knowing, it takes trust.
Blessings

 

[Inagony]

Yes, all those in established churches & denominations, who have not been chosen by God.

when you realize you’re not chosen, you fall apart. Do you think that such a person is not really a human? I can think of no other reason to be completely abandoned by God. Not that anything can be done about it, but I really wish I knew what I did and when. I don’t think it was here in this realm.