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BABerean2,
re: "Are you trying to tell us that this record written by Luke about Paul and these earlier believers getting together and breaking bread and hearing preaching and it had nothing to do with their faith in Christ?"

No. I don't know whether it did or not, and neither do you.
 
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BABerean2,
re: "Are you trying to tell us that this record written by Luke about Paul and these earlier believers getting together and breaking bread and hearing preaching and it had nothing to do with their faith in Christ?"

No. I don't know whether it did or not, and neither do you.

Luke did not record it in God's Word because they got together to play checkers.

You are trying to turn it into something it was not, to make your doctrine work...

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bugkiller,
re: "The argument of a disbeliever."

And exactly how does that automatically make the argument fallacious?



re: "There is no place in Scripture indicating the breaking of bread is merely a general meal."

When Paul was shipwrecked on the voyage to Rome, the sailors had been fasting out of fright. But "Paul urged them all to take some food, saying, 'Today is the fourteenth day that you have continued in suspense and without food, having taken nothing. Therefore I urge you to take some food; it will give you strength...' And when he had said this, he took bread, and giving thanks to God in the presence of all he broke it and began to eat" (Acts 27:33-35, RSV). Here Paul broke bread to give to unconverted sailors who were hungry. It was hardly the Lord's Supper. Are you saying that this was the "Lord's Supper"?
Where re the believers in this meal? Why doesn't the account say anything about believers? Why isn't this referred to as getting together for breaking bread?
re: "Preaching is part of a religious worship activity."

But does talking, conversing, speaking, reasoning, discussing, addressing, disputing, and discoursing in a meeting automatically mean that worship activity is going on?
When assembly is part of the context, yes.
The "breaking of bread" among Orientals carried with it special importance. To "break bread" was associated with sustenance, God's blessings, and sharing in these blessings. One wrote:

"Since there is this attitude of sacredness in relation to 'staff of life,' there grows out of it the universal Eastern custom of 'breaking' bread and not cutting it.. To cut bread would be thought of as cutting life itself. This custom of breaking bread rather than cutting it, is found throughout the scriptures. In Lamentations 4: 4 we read: 'The young children ask bread, and no man breaketh it unto them.' Thus the expression 'breaking of bread' came to mean the taking of a meal whatever was included in the meal. Because Christ broke bread when he instituted the ordinance of the Lord's Supper, the expression came to refer to that ordinance. Matthew 26: 26: 'Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave to his disciples.' Thus we read in Acts 20: 7: 'And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached to them'" (Manners and Customs of Bible Lands, p. 45, by Fred Wight).

"Breaking bread" was something commonly done by the early Christians. Breaking of bread is used in two different milieus and contexts. First, there is the breaking of bread used in connection with the Lord’s Supper, a memorial to remember Jesus’ death and to declare his coming again (Matt. 26: 26-29, I Cor. 11: 23-34). The breaking of bread in the sense of the Lord’s Supper was a regular and constant act of public worship performed on the "first day of the week" in which the early church engaged (Acts 2: 42, see addendum 1). The Christians met on the Lord’s Day "…to break bread" (Acts 20: 7). It is obvious that "break bread" here is not a common meal because this is the express reason for them coming together on the First Day of the week, the day of public worship in the New Testament (cp. I Cor. 16: 1ff., cp. Acts 2: 46). The expression "breaking of bread" is also used to describe what the Christians did "from house to house" (Greek, kar oikon, Acts 2: 46).

As seen, "break bread" is highly significant in terms of the worship of the early church. In view of the language of Acts 20: 7, it is apparent that the breaking of bread was and is the very core of the Lord’s Day assembly. This memorial celebrates the death and resurrection of Jesus, the very foundation of the belief of the Christian (I Cor. 11: 23-34). Jesus said when he instituted this memorial:

"And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body" (Matt. 26: 26, cp. I Cor. 11; 24).

"Breaking of bread" used for "social meals" in which the early Christians partook. Regarding these meals, there is no small amount of confusion and attendant extremes. The two extremes range from, "Let us build fellowship halls and attract people to us by offering meals (food and drink);" to, "It is a sin for Christians to get together in their houses to enjoy a meal."

It is evident that not only were the early Christians constant in their public worship and assemblies, they also made opportunities to be with one another. Some of this was, no doubt, due to their onset zeal and enthusiasm. We read:

"And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart" (Acts 2: 46).

The "breaking of bread" (Gk., klontes arton) in Acts 2: 46 is clearly referring to a meal. I say this because it is distinguished from them being in the temple and it was done "daily." Also, notice the expression, "…did eat their meat…," such language would not be appropriate for the Lord’s Supper. In Acts 20: 11, "broken bread" (Gk., klasas ton arton) appears to be a meal in view of the general language and description and also due to the fact the meal of verse eleven appears to have been on the second day of the week or our Monday (see vs. 7-11). It is, though, worthy of note that in both texts, Acts 2 and Acts 20, we see "break bread" used to reference both the spiritual meal, the Lord’s Supper and a common meal (Acts 2: 42, 20: 7; 2: 46, 20: 11). Notwithstanding, the two are distinguished and observed as separate (see Addendum 2).

While the expression "break bread" as such is not used, it would appear that the early Christians engaged in another type of meal, a meal designed to be benevolent. These meals seem to be what Peter and Jude referred to as "feast with you" and "feasts of charity," respectively (2 Pet. 2: 13; Jude 12). We know very little about these meals. We do know that the church (treasury) did not provide them and only abuse is associated with them (Ibid., cp. I Cor. 11: 21, 22). It does appear that the members at Corinth were attempting to engage in such a meal (they had corrupted the occasion of the Lord’s Supper) and even botched this effort and turned it into a circumstance of gluttony instead of assisting those who had little (I Cor. 11: 21-34, Addendum 3).

We should also point out that while the concept of "fellowship" is definitely observed relative to the "breaking of bread" as it pertained to the Lord’s Supper, "fellowship" is never applied to the common meals (I Cor. 10: 21). It is sad to see the emphasis that many churches, even some churches of Christ, have placed on their common meals. I have had preachers tell me when I asked them what they considered to be their most important effort to reach the lost and edify the saved , "Brother Martin, our fellowship meals are the most important aspect of the work of our local church." When I would tell them that we do read of the importance of and the associated fellowship regarding the Lord’s Supper, they would explain, "I am not talking about that, but the common meal we have in the church building, in which all are invited."

Two foreign (not in the scriptures) practices have evolved: The building and maintaining of "fellowship halls" (monies used from church treasuries) and common meals they call "fellowship meals." The "fellowship halls" have now evolved to include just about every imaginable activity from movie theaters showing secular movies to elaborate game rooms for fun and frolic, all in the church budget. Some being attracted by means of the physical and the comparatively tawdry, however, is not new.

"Jesus answered them and said, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Ye seek me, not because ye saw the miracles, but because ye did eat of the loaves, and were filled. Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed" (John 6: 26, 27).

Many have secularized "fellowship" today and turned the common meal so carefully distinguished in scripture from the public worship and spiritual fellowship of the early Christians into not only part of their spiritual worship, but the main feature (see Addendum 4).

In terms of the "breaking of bread" involved in the Lord’s Supper, such is a great privilege to be able to come together on the Lord’s Day and gather around the Lord’s table in remembrance of Jesus (Acts 20: 7). In a different application and circumstance, Christians need to get together, "break bread" and enjoy one another’s company, "from house to house" (Acts 2: 46).

Addendum 1: Notice that in Acts 2: 42, "breaking of bread" (Greek, klasei tou arpou) is used along with "apostles’ teaching," "fellowship," and "prayers." These are all acts of worship and, as used here, public worship. The Christians met on the First Day of the week to break this bread (Acts 20: 7). Pertaining to Acts 20: 7, Paul deliberately stayed in Troas for seven days despite being in a rush to get to Jerusalem before Pentecost (which was about 1,000 miles distant, see Acts 20: 6, 13-16). Why would Paul remain in Troas for seven days just to have a common meal with them and why would such a meal have to be eaten on the first day of the week? Such delay is indicative of the observance of the "breaking of bread," the Lord’s Supper, on the Lord’s Day.

Addendum 2: Radical Restoration has as one of its main tenets the doctrine that a common meal and the Lord’s Supper are blended and merged and at some time, a time incapable of distinguishing, the common meal becomes the Lord’s Supper. See "Radical Restoration" to study more about this movement.

Addendum 3: As mentioned, we know very little of these "feasts of charity." It would appear, however, that in view of all the problems and abuse associated with them that they simply ceased to be a practice of the individual Christians.

Addendum 4: "Fellowship" was one of the four descriptive terms Luke used to describe the activities of the Jerusalem Christians (Acts 2: 42). Notice that fellowship was constant ("they continued steadfastly…"). I submit that while the early Christians were socially close and often physically together, "fellowship" is never used in the New Testament to denote coffee and donuts, as such.

Fellowship in New Testament concept and terminology, when used in a spiritual climate, is communion or sharing in spiritual matters. For instance, there is fellowship in the gospel (Phili. 1: 5), fellowshipping needy saints (2 Cor. 8: 4), fellowshipping God (I John 1: 3), and fellowshipping Christians (Gal. 2: 9, I John 1: 3, 7).

Fellowship is partnership and approval in spiritual matters. Notice that koinonos (fellowship) is secularly used in Luke 5: 10. Peter, James, and John were partners (koinonos) in a commercial fishing business. They enjoyed joint participation in that undertaking (appreciate the fact that here koinonos is secularly used, but there is no admixture or injection of the spiritual). Hence, when fellowship is used in a spiritual setting, mutual efforts and commonality is obviously meant (Gal. 2: 9). Fellowship between Christians, then, implies approval and endorsement (Phili. 4: 15). The converse of 2 John 10, 11 is assistance ("receive him into your house") and approval ("bid him God speed"). Assistance and approval are the components, if you will, of fellowship. (copied from bibletruths.net)

the IVF Bible Dictionary, 750: "‘To break bread’ was a common Jewish expression for the sharing of a meal."



"All of this confusion just illustrates the problem! When exactly do we know for sure that the concept of 'breaking bread' has reference to the Lord's Supper? It might surprise some disciples to discover that nowhere in the New Covenant writings is the specific phrase 'breaking bread' ever directly linked to the Lord's Supper commemoration. Brother John W. Wood wrote, 'There is no place in the Scripture that identifies 'breaking bread' as specifically being the Lord's Supper. It has become a tradition originating out of the minds of men as far back as the third century, and has since been accepted by all men as truth.' (The Examiner, vol. 4, no. 5, September, 1989) The reality is that, at best, we are simply making an educated guess; each passage is a judgment call, and disciples have differed over those judgments for centuries. Eerdmans Dictionary of the Bible declares the phrase 'could designate a common meal or the Eucharist" (p. 199), and this 'has been vigorously debated' for well over fifteen hundred years. (Expositor's Bible Commentary, vol. 9, p. 289)" (Name of author has been misplaced)
This is your confusion, not mine. You need this confusion to convert others.

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bugkiller,
re: "...Paul preached unto them..."
re: "We have preaching when I worship with my church body."

Strong's gives the definition for the Greek word "dialegomai" in Acts 20:7 as: reason, dispute, speak, preach, discuss. But nowhere does it give "worship" as a meaning. Also, over 30 versions/translations do not use the word "preach" in Acts 20:7, but rather use words like, talking, conversing, speaking, reasoning, discussing, addressed, disputed, discoursed, etc.
Interesting.
Here is a nice lexicon/concordance site that I use which has a dozen different bible versions to compare words.

http://www.eliyah.com/lexicon.html

1256. dialegomai dee-al-eg'-om-ahee middle voice from 1223 and 3004; to say thoroughly, i.e. discuss (in argument or exhortation):--dispute, preach (unto), reason (with), speak.

Outline of Biblical Usage [?]
  1. to think different things with one's self, mingle thought with thought
    1. to ponder, revolve in mind
  2. to converse, discourse with one, argue, discuss
http://biblehub.com/greek/1256.htm

1256 dialégomai (from 1223 /diá, "through, from one side across to the other," which intensifies 3004 /légō, "speaking to a conclusion") – properly, "getting a conclusion across" by exchanging thoughts (logic) – "mingling thought with thought, to ponder (revolve in the mind)" (J. Thayer).

1256 /dialégomai ("getting a conclusion across") occurs 13 times in the NT, usually of believers exercising "dialectical reasoning." This is the process of giving and receiving information with someone to reach deeper understanding – a "going back-and-forth" of thoughts and ideas so people can better know the Lord (His word, will). Doing this is perhaps the most telling characteristic of the growing Christian!

[1256 (dialégomai) is the root of the English term, "dialogue."]
The KJV translates Strongs G1256 in the following manner: dispute (6x), reason with (2x), reason (2x), preach unto (1x), preach (1x), speak (1x).


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Using Bacchiocchi as a source of unbiased truth would be a mistake.

.

Not in real life.

In REAL life it would be a mistake to accuse the Apostle Paul of being an accomplished liar and then telling Christians to pay no attention to the teaching of Christ found in the Gospels.

I think we can all see that point clearly no matter your dislike of Seventh-day Adventists as an appeal to proof-by-emotionalism.

I have meet several times with a local SDA pastor

Me too.

who is a direct descendant of Ellen G. White.
Our conversations were very friendly.

Same here. But that does not make this thread topic - all about that pastor or Ellen White.

Unless of course you can prove that only that Pastor - or only Ellen White knew about the difference between Saturday and Sunday -- or that only SDAs insist on the Bible Sabbath on this section of the board.

All of which - we all know -- is not true.


I have also learned some things about eschatology from Steve Wohlberg on YouTube.

My problem with Adventism is that it does not agree with what is written in the New Testament.

Then you should probably go to the Adventist forum section and have a "what I don't like about Seventh-day Adventists' thread going.

I already started one there for you on the subject of the "shut door" that you seem to love to "mention but not discuss" so much.

I don't mind having those discussions - but I don't believe in derailing every thread on this section of the board to do it.

And I certainly don't believe that every single person on this section of the board that is not at war against the Bible Sabbath - is a Seventh-day Adventist.
 
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Hi BaBerean, You just do not understand. Paul is not looked on favorably by SDAs.

lying about SDAs is a form of "making stuff up" that is not even Christian. To the extent that you quote something and differ with it --- fine. But no need to go this far.
 
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I certainly don't believe that every single person on this section of the board that is not at war against the Bible Sabbath

That would be the Sinai covenant Sabbath, which you claim was put in place "before" Mount Sinai, although the text says otherwise...

Deu 5:2  The LORD our God made a covenant with us in Horeb. 
Deu 5:3  The LORD made not this covenant with our fathers, but with us, even us, who are all of us here alive this day. 

You called it a "war". The battle between the Judaisers and the Apostles started in Acts chapter 15, when the Judaisers attempted to substitute the Old Covenant for the New Covenant. It is the purpose of the books of Galatians and Hebrews. It is also clearly found in several other books.


Php 3:1  Finally, my brethren, rejoice in the Lord. To write the same things to you, to me indeed is not grievous, but for you it is safe. 
Php 3:2  Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision. 
Php 3:3  For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh. 
Php 3:4  Though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man thinketh that he hath whereof he might trust in the flesh, I more: 
Php 3:5  Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee; 
Php 3:6  Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, blameless. 
Php 3:7  But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ. 
Php 3:8  Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ, 
Php 3:9  And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith: 
Php 3:10  That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death; 
Php 3:11  If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead.

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BobRyan,
re: "And of course 7th day groups, Seventh-day Baptists Seventh-day Adventists, (and 100's of others)"



A few of the 100s:



1.1st Chronicles of the Living God Ministries Inc

2.11th Hour Apostolic Sabbatarian Church

3.7th Day Bible Church

4.7th Day Church of God

5.A Church of God Ministry

6.A Congregation in St. Louis

7.Aaronic Order (House of Aharon)

8.Abiding Faith In Truth Church Inc.

9.Abunda Life Church

10.Active Bible Church of God

11.Advent Fellowship of All Nations

12.Adventist Church of Promise

13.Ahtanum Community Church

14.Akron Fellowship

15.All Nations Assembly House of Prayer For All People

16.American Orthodox Catholic Church

17.American Society of Medical Missionary

18.Anointed Sabbath Ministries Inc

19.An Assembly of the Eternal's Called Out

20.Anointed Ministry Temple

21.Apostolic Assembly of Yahvah, inc

22.Apostolic Church of God, 7th Day

23.Apostolic Lighthouse Church

24.Apostolic Sacred Name Fellowship

25.Apostolic Truth Ministries Worldwide

26.Ark International

27.Assembled Believers Congregation

28.Assembles of the Called Out Ones of 'Yah,' Inc.

29.Assembles of Yahshua

30.Assembles of Yahweh

31.Assemblies of YaHVah

32.Assemblies of YaHVaHO SHA Worldwide Inc.

33.Assembly of Elohim

34.Assembly of God 7th Day

35.Assembly of God in Christ Jesus

36.Assembly of the Eternal, an independent Church of God

37.Assembly of the Firstborn

38.Assembly of Yah

39.Assembly of Yahowah, 7th Day

40.Assembly of Yahweh

41.Assembly of Yahweh Nigeria

42.Assembly with Elder Dale George

43.Assembled Believers Congregation

44.Association of 7th Day Pentecostal Assemblies

45.Atzzehret Yeshua Hakoom Messianic Congregation

46.Austin Fellowship

47.Austin Church of God

48.Australasian Conference of Seventh Day Baptists

49.Barnabas Ministries

50.Believer's Advocate

51.Believers in Christ Church of God

52.Berean Apostolic Faith Assembly

53.Berean Church of God

54.Bet Hashem Midrash

55.Bet Shavei-tzion International

56.Beth Ha Shofar (Messianic Congregation)

57.Beth Immanuel Sabbath Fellowship

58.Beth Israel Messianic Congregation

59.Beth Messiah Congregation

60.Beth Tikvah (House of Hope) - Newcastle, WA

61.Bible Sabbath Musicians' Association

62.Bibleway Church

63.Biblical Church of God Danville

64.Biblical Unitarian Churches of God

65.Blessed Hope Seventh Day Christian

66.Blessed Hope Mission Church

67.B'nai Yahshua Messianic Synagogue

68.Body of Christ Church of God

69.Branch of Jerusalem

70.Breath of Life

71.British Conference of Seventh Day Baptists

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74.Brown, Frank and Connie

75.Building Bridges

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92.Christian Churches of God

93.Christian Educational Ministries

94.Christian Family Church of God

95.Christian Fellowship Church

96.Christian Fellowship Church of God

97.Christian Fellowship Ministries of the Church of God

98.Christian Leadership Academy

99.Christian Renewal Ministries

100.Christian Sabbath Assembly

101.Christian Sabbath Keepers

102.Christians in Crisis

103.Christ Lion Ministries

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105.Church of Christ of Seventh Day

106.Church of God

107.Church of God, a Worldwide Association, Inc.

108.Church of God (Abrahamic Faith-Sabbath Keepers)

109.Church of God (Christianos)

110.Church of God (Iglesia de Dios)

111.Church of God 7th Day

112.Church of God 7th/Sabbath Day

113.Church of God a Christian Fellowship

114.Church of God an International Community

115.Church of God and Saints of Christ

116.Church of God Christ the Head

117.Church of God in the Netherlands (New Moon Seventh Day)

118.Church of God in the Wilderness

119.Church of God Independent

120.Church of God Messengers

121.Church of God Ministries, International

122.Church of God of the Eternal God

123.Church of God of the Seventh Day

124.Church of God Philadelphia Era

125.Church of God Proclaimed

126.Church of God Proclaiming the Kingdom

127.Church of God Providence

128.Church of God Restored

129.Church of God Sabbatarian

130.Church of God Sabbath Day

131.Church of God Seventh Day

132.Church of God Talent Ministries

133.Church of God the Ozarks

134.Church of God United

135.Church of God, an International Community

136.Church of God, In Truth, Inc. (Formerly Church of God's Truth)

137.Church of God, International

138.Church of God's Truth

139.Church of Israel

140.Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (STRANGITE)

141.Church of Jesus Christ, Sabbath Day

142.Church of The Adventist Fellowship

143.Church of the Great God

144.Church of the Living God

145.Church of the Living Yahweh

146.Church of the Lord Jesus Christ

147.Church of the Remnant Hope

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149.Church of the Sovereign God

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152.Churches of God Cyber Auxiliary

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154.Congregacion De Yahweh

155.Congregation Beth Shalom

156.Congregation Beth Simcha

157.Congregation Beth Yeshua

158.Congregation Birth Hadoshah

159.Congregation B'nal Maccabim

160.Congregation of God Seventh Day

161.Congregation of Yahweh

162.Congregation of YHWH

163.Congregation Ohr Chadash

164.Cornerstone House of Prayer

165.Covenant Apostolic Churches, International

166.Covenant Mission in Canada

167.Dallas Congregation of the Almighty

168.David Alvin Gregg

169.Davis, Richard and Imogene

170.Deaf Assembly of YHWH

171.Disciples Church of God

172.Dove Christian Fellowship

173.East Texas Fellowship

174.Ecclesia Theos At Morristown TN

175.El Shaddai Ministries - Tacoma, WA

176.Elder Andrae Anthony

177.Elect Ministries of God

178.Eliyah Message

179.Elmer "Lee" Grose

180.Embassy of God

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184.Evangelical Christian Fellowships - Belgium

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221.God's Community

222.God's Family Fellowship

223.God's Last Call

224.God's Sabbath Rest

225.God's Storehouse

226.God's Work NOW! (Hold Fast To All Things)

227.Good News Unlimited

228.Gospel Celebration Fellowship

229.Gospel Fellowship

230.Grace Cowboy Church.

231.Green Pasture Gazette

232.Guard the Truth

233.Guardian Ministries

234.Hallelujah Fellowship

235.HalleluYah Assembly

236.Halleluyah Mission

237.Hartland Institute

238.Hatikure Ministries

239.Heartland Fellowship

240.Hebrew Israelites

241.Hebrew Roots

242.Hebrew to Christian Contact

243.Historic Adventists; 7th Day

244.Hold Fast to All Things

245.Holy Church of Christ Commandments of God

246.Holy Church of the Living God, Commandment Keepers

247.Holy Sabbath of Christ the King Mission International

248.Home Fellowship Assistance

249.Hope of Israel Ministries

250.House Church of Jesus Christ

251.Household of Israel Temple of Jesus Christ

252.House of God

253.House of God Hebrew Pentecostal Church

254.House of Prayer

255.House of the Eternal Church of the Living God

256.House of Yahshua Ministries, Inc

257.House of Yahvah

258.House of Yahweh

259.If You Love Me 7th Day Fellowship

260.Independent Church of God Sabbath Fellowship Group

261.Independent Church of God

262.Independent Church of God (Yahweh)

263.Independent Sabbath Church of God

264.India Assemblies of Messiah

265.Interactive Sabbath Fellowship

266.Intercontinental Church of God

267.Interdependent - Interactive Church Of God

268.Interdependent Church of God Sabbath Day

269.International Congregation of Yahweh

270.International Sanctuary Research Center

271.IMS Seventh Day Adventist Church Reform Movement

272.Internet Church of God

273.Israel Assemblies of Yahweh, Inc

274.Israel's Messiah Has Come!

275.Jackson Gap Assembly of Yahweh

276.Jubilee Cycle Research

277.Kansas City Church of God - Kansas City, MO

278.Katahdin Christian Community Church

279.Kehilat Ariel

280.Keith Siddens

281.Kingdom Missionaries

282.Kingdom on Earth of Y_H_W_H, the Sovereign

283.KYMAK

284.Last Age Church of God

285.Law and Grace Ministries

286.Lehigh Valley Sabbath Fellowship

287.Liberty Foundation (20th Century Church of God)

288.Lifeline Ministries

289.LifePointe Church of God

290.LifePointe Seventh-Day Remnant Church

291.Lifestyle in Faith Ministries

292.Lifetime Ministry Church

293.Links of Truth

294.Lion and Lamb Ministries

295.Lion of Judah Ministries

296.The Olive Branch

297.Little Children of Jesus Christ

298.Little Flock Fellowship

299.LIttle Flock International

300.Living Church of God

301.Living God Ministries, Montgomery Fellowship

302.Living Life Traditional Holiness Church

303.Living Room Church of God

304.Living Word COG 7th Day

305.Logos Apostolic Church of God and Bible College

306.Logos Apostolic Church of God (Doncaster) U.K

307.Love Song To the Messiah

308.Lyons Congregation

309.Malkaynu Shuva Ministries

310.Maranatha Ministries

311.MarkTab Ministries

312.Maryland Sabbath Fellowship

313.Menorah Ministries

314.Messianic Congregation

315.Messianic Faith Congregation

316.Messianic Hebrew Christian Fellowship

317.Messianic Israel Ministries (House of David)

318.Messianic Jew

319.Messianic Jewish Movement International

320.Messianic Liturgical Resources

321.Midlands Christian Church of God

322.Midnight Cry Society of the Church of God

323.Midnight Ministries

324.Ministry Publications

325.Missionary Body of Jesus Christ

326.Mount Sion Assembly of Yahvah

327.Mount Zion Chapel

328.Mount Zion Deeper Life Fellowship

329.Mountain Missionary Institute

330.Mt Zion Apostolic Church

331.Mt Zion Church of God 7th Day

332.Mt Zion Reporter

333.Music for the Church of God

334.Mystery of the Kingdom Ministry

335.Narrow Path

336.Nashville Sabbath Fellowship

337.Nation of Israel

338.National Eagle (Lee Clark)

339.New Beginnings

340.New Bethel House of Prayer

341.New Birth Assembly of Yahweh

342.New Covenant Apostolic Church

343.New Covenant Ministries

344.New Genesis Fellowship

345.New Israel Ind Assy of God

346.New Life & Health Ministries

347.New Life Christian Church

348.New Life Church of God Seventh Day

349.Nondenominational Sabbath Fellowship

350.Notre Dame de Grace

351.Oak Grove Community Church of God, 7th Day

352.Obedience Intercessory Ministry

353.Omega Praise Fellowship of Southern Oregon

354.Open Bible Fellowship

355.Open Door Bible Ministry, Inc.

356.Open Door Fellowship

357.Orange County Fellowship of God

358.Original Bible Project

359.Ozark Christian Fellowship

360.Pass It On Ministries

361.Pathway

362.Pentecostal Church of Zion, Inc.

363.People of the Living God

364.People's Christian Church

365.Petah Tikvah (Door of Hope)

366.Petah Tikvah Messianic Jewish Congregation

367.Philadelphia Church of God

368.Pine Belt Biblical Foundation

369.Plainer Truth

370.Points of Truth Christian Ministry

371.Praise Fellowship

372.Prisoner Outreach for Christ

373.Proclaiming the Sabbath More Fully

374.Prophetic Church of God

375.Pure Truth (APT Manual)

376.Radio Church of God

377.Reformation Church

378.Remnant Church of God

379.Remnant of God's People Church

380.Remnant of Israel

381.Remnant of Yahvah

382.Restoration Church of God

383.Restoration Fellowship

384.Restored Church of God

385.Rhema Tabernacle Ministries

386.Ribbon of Blue Ministries

387.S.E.E.D. ( Matthew 17:20 )

388.Sabbatarian Brethren BS Service at Bound Brook

389.Sabbatarian Christian Fellowship

390.Sabbatarian Church of God

391.Sabbath Assembly of God

392.Sabbath Bible Study Fellowship

393.Sabbath Church

394.Sabbath Day Believers

395.Sabbath Fellowship

396.Sabbath Keepers in White Robes

397.Sabbath Keeping Ten Commandment Church

398.Sabbath Research Center

399.Sabbath Seals

400.Sabbath Study Center

401.Sabbath-Keeping Church of God

402.Sacred Name Believers

403.Sacred Name Fellowship

404.Safe Haven Church of God

405.Saints of God Church International

406.San Diego Forum

407.Scattered Brethren

408.SDB Church Fellowship

409.Seek and Find Ministries

410.Servants' News

411.Seventh-day Adventist Church

412.Seventh-day Adventist Missionary Foundation

413.Seventh-day Adventist Reform Movement

414.Seventh Day Assembly of Yahweh

415.Seventh Day Baptist Church

416.Seventh Day Baptist Church of God

417.Seventh Day Baptists, U.S.A. and Canada

418.Seventh Day Christian Assembly

419.Seventh Day Christian Assembly of the Church of God

420.Seventh Day Christian Church

421.Seventh Day Christian Conference

422.Seventh Day Church

423.Seventh Day Church of God

424.Seventh Day Church of God For All Faiths

425.Seventh Day Sabbatarian Mennonites

426.Shekinah Gold Ministries

427.Shema Yisrael Ministries

428.Simon Says (radio talk show)

429.Smyrna Gospel Ministries

430.Smyrna Seventh-day Sabbath Chapel

431.Snow Hill Society of German Seventh Day Baptists

432.Soldiers of the Cross of Christ Evangelical International Church

433.Southern Florida Christian Fellowship

434.Southern New Mexico Sabbath Fellowship

435.Southside Bible Church

436.Speak the Truth

437.Speaking Out...On Issues of Importance to Christians

438.Spectrum

439.Spirit of Jesus Sabbath Church

440.Stedfast Church of God

441.Synagogue Chavurat HaMashiach

442.Tabernacle of God

443.Talents Ministries

444.Temple Christ Messiah

445.The American Orthodox Catholic Church

446.The Apostolic Church of God in Christ

447.The Believers

448.The Believer's Advocate

449.The Bible Church of God

450.The Christian Church of God

451.The Church At Texas

452.The Church of Christ

453.The Church of God

454.The Church of God 7th Day

455.The Church Of God In America

456.The Church of God and Christ

457.The Church Of God Sabbath-Keeping

458.The Church of God, Jerusalem (World Headquarters)

459.The Church of God, Ministries International

460.The Community In Boston

461.The Congregation of Christ

462.The Congregation of God

463.The Congregation of God Seventh Day Association

464.The Congregation of Yahweh

465.The Creation 7th Day *Adventist Church

466.The First Assembly of Yahvah

467.The Folsom Area Sabbath Bible Study Fellowship

468.The Gen'l Assembly of the Congregations of God

469.The Haven of Living Water

470.The Hevener Church - 224 Mohele Road, Farmville, Va.23901

471.The House of God

472.The House of Prayer of DePauw, IN

473.The House of Yahweh

474.The Jerusalem Sentinel

475.The Messianic Assemblies of Yahweh

476.The Original Bible Project

477.The People's Christian Church

478.The Pure Truth

479.The Pure Gospel Of Jesus Christ Ministries

480.The Quiet Hour

481.The Registry

482.The Scriptural Church of God

483.The Seventh Day Church of God

484.The Society of the White Rose

485.The Toledo Congregation of the House of YaHVaH

486.The Total Truth

487.The True Church of Christ [The Church of Christ]

488.The Way Publications (Sabbath Bible Study Fellowship

489.Thomas C. Taylor

490.Thomaston Church

491.To the Elect Church of God

492.Toledo Congregation of YaHVaH

493.Total Truth

494.Tower of Prayer 7th Day Assembly Holy Spirit Believers

495.Tree of Life Fellowship

496.Triumph Church of God (Triumph Prophetic Ministries)

497.Triumph Prophetic Ministries

498.True Jesus Church

499.Truth Glorious Gospel of Jesus Christ

500.Truth On The Web Ministries

501.Truth Search Ministries

502.Truthseekers

503.Twentieth Century Church of God

504.Two Witness Ministries

505.Uchee Pines Institute

506.Union of Messianic Jewish Congregation

507.United Biblical Church of God

508.United Christian Ministries

509.United Church of God

510.United Church of the Lord Our Righteousness

511.United Hebrew Congregations

512.United House of God

513.Universal Church of God

514.Unknown Truth Fellowship Workers (UTFW)

515.Valley Christian Fellowship

516.Virginia Christian Israelites

517.Virginia Sabbath Fellowship

518.Voice in the Wilderness

519.Voice of Unity

520.Western Maryland Sabbath Fellowship

521.Western Nebraska Congregation of God

522.Whole Armor

523.Wilderness Ministries

524.Willamette Sabbath Fellowship

525.World Insight International

526.Worldwide Church of God

527.Worldwide House of Yahuweh

528.YAH Prince of Peace Nazarene Ysraelite Congregation

529.Yah's Youth & Family Program

530.Yahshua Messiah International Congregation, Inc.

531.Yahvahshua Nazarene Mission

532.Yahwah's New Covenant Assembly

533.Yahweh's Assembly in Messiah

534.Yahweh's House of Prayer

535.Yahweh's Messianic Fellowship

536.Yahweh's New Covenant Assembly

537.Yahweh's New Life Assembly

538.Yehowshu'wa Intl. Assemblies Ministry

539.Yeshua Chai Messianic Synagogue

540.Yorusho Aleim Liberation Movement
 
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re: "And of course 7th day groups, Seventh-day Baptists Seventh-day Adventists, (and 100's of others)"



A few of the 100s:



1.1st Chronicles of the Living God Ministries Inc

2.11th Hour Apostolic Sabbatarian Church

3.7th Day Bible Church

4.7th Day Church of God

5.A Church of God Ministry

6.A Congregation in St. Louis

7.Aaronic Order (House of Aharon)

8.Abiding Faith In Truth Church Inc.

9.Abunda Life Church

10.Active Bible Church of God

11.Advent Fellowship of All Nations

12.Adventist Church of Promise

13.Ahtanum Community Church

14.Akron Fellowship

15.All Nations Assembly House of Prayer For All People

16.American Orthodox Catholic Church

17.American Society of Medical Missionary

18.Anointed Sabbath Ministries Inc

19.An Assembly of the Eternal's Called Out

20.Anointed Ministry Temple

21.Apostolic Assembly of Yahvah, inc

22.Apostolic Church of God, 7th Day

23.Apostolic Lighthouse Church

24.Apostolic Sacred Name Fellowship

25.Apostolic Truth Ministries Worldwide

26.Ark International

27.Assembled Believers Congregation

28.Assembles of the Called Out Ones of 'Yah,' Inc.

29.Assembles of Yahshua

30.Assembles of Yahweh

31.Assemblies of YaHVah

32.Assemblies of YaHVaHO SHA Worldwide Inc.

33.Assembly of Elohim

34.Assembly of God 7th Day

35.Assembly of God in Christ Jesus

36.Assembly of the Eternal, an independent Church of God

37.Assembly of the Firstborn

38.Assembly of Yah

39.Assembly of Yahowah, 7th Day

40.Assembly of Yahweh

41.Assembly of Yahweh Nigeria

42.Assembly with Elder Dale George

43.Assembled Believers Congregation

44.Association of 7th Day Pentecostal Assemblies

45.Atzzehret Yeshua Hakoom Messianic Congregation

46.Austin Fellowship

47.Austin Church of God

48.Australasian Conference of Seventh Day Baptists

49.Barnabas Ministries

50.Believer's Advocate

51.Believers in Christ Church of God

52.Berean Apostolic Faith Assembly

53.Berean Church of God

54.Bet Hashem Midrash

55.Bet Shavei-tzion International

56.Beth Ha Shofar (Messianic Congregation)

57.Beth Immanuel Sabbath Fellowship

58.Beth Israel Messianic Congregation

59.Beth Messiah Congregation

60.Beth Tikvah (House of Hope) - Newcastle, WA

61.Bible Sabbath Musicians' Association

62.Bibleway Church

63.Biblical Church of God Danville

64.Biblical Unitarian Churches of God

65.Blessed Hope Seventh Day Christian

66.Blessed Hope Mission Church

67.B'nai Yahshua Messianic Synagogue

68.Body of Christ Church of God

69.Branch of Jerusalem

70.Breath of Life

71.British Conference of Seventh Day Baptists

72.British Israel Church of God

73.Bro. Lester Anderson, Salem Acres

74.Brown, Frank and Connie

75.Building Bridges

76.C.A.L.

77.Canadian Church of God

78.Caribbean United Church

79.Celebration Church of God

80.Celina Independent Bible Study

81.Celtic Orthodox Church

82.Certain Place of the Seventh Day Chapel

83.Chapel-in-the-Ozarks

84.Charles Lindsey

85.Children of Promise

86.Children of Yah

87.Children of Yahvah

88.Children of Yahweh

89.Christ Fellowship Ministries (Church of God)

90.Christian Biblical Church of God

91.Christian Church of God, Inc.

92.Christian Churches of God

93.Christian Educational Ministries

94.Christian Family Church of God

95.Christian Fellowship Church

96.Christian Fellowship Church of God

97.Christian Fellowship Ministries of the Church of God

98.Christian Leadership Academy

99.Christian Renewal Ministries

100.Christian Sabbath Assembly

101.Christian Sabbath Keepers

102.Christians in Crisis

103.Christ Lion Ministries

104.Church of Biblical Truth

105.Church of Christ of Seventh Day

106.Church of God

107.Church of God, a Worldwide Association, Inc.

108.Church of God (Abrahamic Faith-Sabbath Keepers)

109.Church of God (Christianos)

110.Church of God (Iglesia de Dios)

111.Church of God 7th Day

112.Church of God 7th/Sabbath Day

113.Church of God a Christian Fellowship

114.Church of God an International Community

115.Church of God and Saints of Christ

116.Church of God Christ the Head

117.Church of God in the Netherlands (New Moon Seventh Day)

118.Church of God in the Wilderness

119.Church of God Independent

120.Church of God Messengers

121.Church of God Ministries, International

122.Church of God of the Eternal God

123.Church of God of the Seventh Day

124.Church of God Philadelphia Era

125.Church of God Proclaimed

126.Church of God Proclaiming the Kingdom

127.Church of God Providence

128.Church of God Restored

129.Church of God Sabbatarian

130.Church of God Sabbath Day

131.Church of God Seventh Day

132.Church of God Talent Ministries

133.Church of God the Ozarks

134.Church of God United

135.Church of God, an International Community

136.Church of God, In Truth, Inc. (Formerly Church of God's Truth)

137.Church of God, International

138.Church of God's Truth

139.Church of Israel

140.Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (STRANGITE)

141.Church of Jesus Christ, Sabbath Day

142.Church of The Adventist Fellowship

143.Church of the Great God

144.Church of the Living God

145.Church of the Living Yahweh

146.Church of the Lord Jesus Christ

147.Church of the Remnant Hope

148.Church of the Savior at Cincinnati

149.Church of the Sovereign God

150.Church State Council

151.Churches of God a Cooperative Fellowship

152.Churches of God Cyber Auxiliary

153.Community Church of God, Seventh Day

154.Congregacion De Yahweh

155.Congregation Beth Shalom

156.Congregation Beth Simcha

157.Congregation Beth Yeshua

158.Congregation Birth Hadoshah

159.Congregation B'nal Maccabim

160.Congregation of God Seventh Day

161.Congregation of Yahweh

162.Congregation of YHWH

163.Congregation Ohr Chadash

164.Cornerstone House of Prayer

165.Covenant Apostolic Churches, International

166.Covenant Mission in Canada

167.Dallas Congregation of the Almighty

168.David Alvin Gregg

169.Davis, Richard and Imogene

170.Deaf Assembly of YHWH

171.Disciples Church of God

172.Dove Christian Fellowship

173.East Texas Fellowship

174.Ecclesia Theos At Morristown TN

175.El Shaddai Ministries - Tacoma, WA

176.Elder Andrae Anthony

177.Elect Ministries of God

178.Eliyah Message

179.Elmer "Lee" Grose

180.Embassy of God

181.Embassy of Heaven Church

182.End Time Assembly of God

183.Eternal Church of God

184.Evangelical Christian Fellowships - Belgium

185.Evangelical Seventh Day Baptist Church

186.Evangelical Seventh Day Baptist Mission Service

187.Evangelistic Centre, Inc.

188.Evangelistic Church of Jesus Christ

189.Everlasting Church of God

190.Faith Bible and Tract Society

191.Faith, Hope and Charity; House of God, Inc.

192.Family Church of God

193.Faith of a Child Ministry

194.Family of God

195.Family of Yahweh

196.Family Sabbath Keepers

197.Father's House Sabbath Congregation

198.Fellowship Church of God

199.Fellowship of Missions

200.Fighters For Truth

201.Final Hours Ministry

202.Finding Truth Ministeries

203.First Assembly of Yahvah

204.First Century Church of God

205.First Deliverance Holiness Church

206.First Fruits of Zion

207.Foundation For Life Fellowship

208.Freedom Biblical Information

209.Freedom Church Of God

210.Freedom Road Ministries

211.Friends of the Sabbath

212.Friendship 7th Day Sabbath Church of God

213.General Association of Davidians SDA

214.German Seventh Day Baptists

215.Gig Harbor Sabbath Fellowship

216.Giving & Sharing

217.Global Church of God

218.God Cares We Care House of Prayer

219.God's Church in the Appleton- Green Bay area

220.God's Church Worldwide

221.God's Community

222.God's Family Fellowship

223.God's Last Call

224.God's Sabbath Rest

225.God's Storehouse

226.God's Work NOW! (Hold Fast To All Things)

227.Good News Unlimited

228.Gospel Celebration Fellowship

229.Gospel Fellowship

230.Grace Cowboy Church.

231.Green Pasture Gazette

232.Guard the Truth

233.Guardian Ministries

234.Hallelujah Fellowship

235.HalleluYah Assembly

236.Halleluyah Mission

237.Hartland Institute

238.Hatikure Ministries

239.Heartland Fellowship

240.Hebrew Israelites

241.Hebrew Roots

242.Hebrew to Christian Contact

243.Historic Adventists; 7th Day

244.Hold Fast to All Things

245.Holy Church of Christ Commandments of God

246.Holy Church of the Living God, Commandment Keepers

247.Holy Sabbath of Christ the King Mission International

248.Home Fellowship Assistance

249.Hope of Israel Ministries

250.House Church of Jesus Christ

251.Household of Israel Temple of Jesus Christ

252.House of God

253.House of God Hebrew Pentecostal Church

254.House of Prayer

255.House of the Eternal Church of the Living God

256.House of Yahshua Ministries, Inc

257.House of Yahvah

258.House of Yahweh

259.If You Love Me 7th Day Fellowship

260.Independent Church of God Sabbath Fellowship Group

261.Independent Church of God

262.Independent Church of God (Yahweh)

263.Independent Sabbath Church of God

264.India Assemblies of Messiah

265.Interactive Sabbath Fellowship

266.Intercontinental Church of God

267.Interdependent - Interactive Church Of God

268.Interdependent Church of God Sabbath Day

269.International Congregation of Yahweh

270.International Sanctuary Research Center

271.IMS Seventh Day Adventist Church Reform Movement

272.Internet Church of God

273.Israel Assemblies of Yahweh, Inc

274.Israel's Messiah Has Come!

275.Jackson Gap Assembly of Yahweh

276.Jubilee Cycle Research

277.Kansas City Church of God - Kansas City, MO

278.Katahdin Christian Community Church

279.Kehilat Ariel

280.Keith Siddens

281.Kingdom Missionaries

282.Kingdom on Earth of Y_H_W_H, the Sovereign

283.KYMAK

284.Last Age Church of God

285.Law and Grace Ministries

286.Lehigh Valley Sabbath Fellowship

287.Liberty Foundation (20th Century Church of God)

288.Lifeline Ministries

289.LifePointe Church of God

290.LifePointe Seventh-Day Remnant Church

291.Lifestyle in Faith Ministries

292.Lifetime Ministry Church

293.Links of Truth

294.Lion and Lamb Ministries

295.Lion of Judah Ministries

296.The Olive Branch

297.Little Children of Jesus Christ

298.Little Flock Fellowship

299.LIttle Flock International

300.Living Church of God

301.Living God Ministries, Montgomery Fellowship

302.Living Life Traditional Holiness Church

303.Living Room Church of God

304.Living Word COG 7th Day

305.Logos Apostolic Church of God and Bible College

306.Logos Apostolic Church of God (Doncaster) U.K

307.Love Song To the Messiah

308.Lyons Congregation

309.Malkaynu Shuva Ministries

310.Maranatha Ministries

311.MarkTab Ministries

312.Maryland Sabbath Fellowship

313.Menorah Ministries

314.Messianic Congregation

315.Messianic Faith Congregation

316.Messianic Hebrew Christian Fellowship

317.Messianic Israel Ministries (House of David)

318.Messianic Jew

319.Messianic Jewish Movement International

320.Messianic Liturgical Resources

321.Midlands Christian Church of God

322.Midnight Cry Society of the Church of God

323.Midnight Ministries

324.Ministry Publications

325.Missionary Body of Jesus Christ

326.Mount Sion Assembly of Yahvah

327.Mount Zion Chapel

328.Mount Zion Deeper Life Fellowship

329.Mountain Missionary Institute

330.Mt Zion Apostolic Church

331.Mt Zion Church of God 7th Day

332.Mt Zion Reporter

333.Music for the Church of God

334.Mystery of the Kingdom Ministry

335.Narrow Path

336.Nashville Sabbath Fellowship

337.Nation of Israel

338.National Eagle (Lee Clark)

339.New Beginnings

340.New Bethel House of Prayer

341.New Birth Assembly of Yahweh

342.New Covenant Apostolic Church

343.New Covenant Ministries

344.New Genesis Fellowship

345.New Israel Ind Assy of God

346.New Life & Health Ministries

347.New Life Christian Church

348.New Life Church of God Seventh Day

349.Nondenominational Sabbath Fellowship

350.Notre Dame de Grace

351.Oak Grove Community Church of God, 7th Day

352.Obedience Intercessory Ministry

353.Omega Praise Fellowship of Southern Oregon

354.Open Bible Fellowship

355.Open Door Bible Ministry, Inc.

356.Open Door Fellowship

357.Orange County Fellowship of God

358.Original Bible Project

359.Ozark Christian Fellowship

360.Pass It On Ministries

361.Pathway

362.Pentecostal Church of Zion, Inc.

363.People of the Living God

364.People's Christian Church

365.Petah Tikvah (Door of Hope)

366.Petah Tikvah Messianic Jewish Congregation

367.Philadelphia Church of God

368.Pine Belt Biblical Foundation

369.Plainer Truth

370.Points of Truth Christian Ministry

371.Praise Fellowship

372.Prisoner Outreach for Christ

373.Proclaiming the Sabbath More Fully

374.Prophetic Church of God

375.Pure Truth (APT Manual)

376.Radio Church of God

377.Reformation Church

378.Remnant Church of God

379.Remnant of God's People Church

380.Remnant of Israel

381.Remnant of Yahvah

382.Restoration Church of God

383.Restoration Fellowship

384.Restored Church of God

385.Rhema Tabernacle Ministries

386.Ribbon of Blue Ministries

387.S.E.E.D. ( Matthew 17:20 )

388.Sabbatarian Brethren BS Service at Bound Brook

389.Sabbatarian Christian Fellowship

390.Sabbatarian Church of God

391.Sabbath Assembly of God

392.Sabbath Bible Study Fellowship

393.Sabbath Church

394.Sabbath Day Believers

395.Sabbath Fellowship

396.Sabbath Keepers in White Robes

397.Sabbath Keeping Ten Commandment Church

398.Sabbath Research Center

399.Sabbath Seals

400.Sabbath Study Center

401.Sabbath-Keeping Church of God

402.Sacred Name Believers

403.Sacred Name Fellowship

404.Safe Haven Church of God

405.Saints of God Church International

406.San Diego Forum

407.Scattered Brethren

408.SDB Church Fellowship

409.Seek and Find Ministries

410.Servants' News

411.Seventh-day Adventist Church

412.Seventh-day Adventist Missionary Foundation

413.Seventh-day Adventist Reform Movement

414.Seventh Day Assembly of Yahweh

415.Seventh Day Baptist Church

416.Seventh Day Baptist Church of God

417.Seventh Day Baptists, U.S.A. and Canada

418.Seventh Day Christian Assembly

419.Seventh Day Christian Assembly of the Church of God

420.Seventh Day Christian Church

421.Seventh Day Christian Conference

422.Seventh Day Church

423.Seventh Day Church of God

424.Seventh Day Church of God For All Faiths

425.Seventh Day Sabbatarian Mennonites

426.Shekinah Gold Ministries

427.Shema Yisrael Ministries

428.Simon Says (radio talk show)

429.Smyrna Gospel Ministries

430.Smyrna Seventh-day Sabbath Chapel

431.Snow Hill Society of German Seventh Day Baptists

432.Soldiers of the Cross of Christ Evangelical International Church

433.Southern Florida Christian Fellowship

434.Southern New Mexico Sabbath Fellowship

435.Southside Bible Church

436.Speak the Truth

437.Speaking Out...On Issues of Importance to Christians

438.Spectrum

439.Spirit of Jesus Sabbath Church

440.Stedfast Church of God

441.Synagogue Chavurat HaMashiach

442.Tabernacle of God

443.Talents Ministries

444.Temple Christ Messiah

445.The American Orthodox Catholic Church

446.The Apostolic Church of God in Christ

447.The Believers

448.The Believer's Advocate

449.The Bible Church of God

450.The Christian Church of God

451.The Church At Texas

452.The Church of Christ

453.The Church of God

454.The Church of God 7th Day

455.The Church Of God In America

456.The Church of God and Christ

457.The Church Of God Sabbath-Keeping

458.The Church of God, Jerusalem (World Headquarters)

459.The Church of God, Ministries International

460.The Community In Boston

461.The Congregation of Christ

462.The Congregation of God

463.The Congregation of God Seventh Day Association

464.The Congregation of Yahweh

465.The Creation 7th Day *Adventist Church

466.The First Assembly of Yahvah

467.The Folsom Area Sabbath Bible Study Fellowship

468.The Gen'l Assembly of the Congregations of God

469.The Haven of Living Water

470.The Hevener Church - 224 Mohele Road, Farmville, Va.23901

471.The House of God

472.The House of Prayer of DePauw, IN

473.The House of Yahweh

474.The Jerusalem Sentinel

475.The Messianic Assemblies of Yahweh

476.The Original Bible Project

477.The People's Christian Church

478.The Pure Truth

479.The Pure Gospel Of Jesus Christ Ministries

480.The Quiet Hour

481.The Registry

482.The Scriptural Church of God

483.The Seventh Day Church of God

484.The Society of the White Rose

485.The Toledo Congregation of the House of YaHVaH

486.The Total Truth

487.The True Church of Christ [The Church of Christ]

488.The Way Publications (Sabbath Bible Study Fellowship

489.Thomas C. Taylor

490.Thomaston Church

491.To the Elect Church of God

492.Toledo Congregation of YaHVaH

493.Total Truth

494.Tower of Prayer 7th Day Assembly Holy Spirit Believers

495.Tree of Life Fellowship

496.Triumph Church of God (Triumph Prophetic Ministries)

497.Triumph Prophetic Ministries

498.True Jesus Church

499.Truth Glorious Gospel of Jesus Christ

500.Truth On The Web Ministries

501.Truth Search Ministries

502.Truthseekers

503.Twentieth Century Church of God

504.Two Witness Ministries

505.Uchee Pines Institute

506.Union of Messianic Jewish Congregation

507.United Biblical Church of God

508.United Christian Ministries

509.United Church of God

510.United Church of the Lord Our Righteousness

511.United Hebrew Congregations

512.United House of God

513.Universal Church of God

514.Unknown Truth Fellowship Workers (UTFW)

515.Valley Christian Fellowship

516.Virginia Christian Israelites

517.Virginia Sabbath Fellowship

518.Voice in the Wilderness

519.Voice of Unity

520.Western Maryland Sabbath Fellowship

521.Western Nebraska Congregation of God

522.Whole Armor

523.Wilderness Ministries

524.Willamette Sabbath Fellowship

525.World Insight International

526.Worldwide Church of God

527.Worldwide House of Yahuweh

528.YAH Prince of Peace Nazarene Ysraelite Congregation

529.Yah's Youth & Family Program

530.Yahshua Messiah International Congregation, Inc.

531.Yahvahshua Nazarene Mission

532.Yahwah's New Covenant Assembly

533.Yahweh's Assembly in Messiah

534.Yahweh's House of Prayer

535.Yahweh's Messianic Fellowship

536.Yahweh's New Covenant Assembly

537.Yahweh's New Life Assembly

538.Yehowshu'wa Intl. Assemblies Ministry

539.Yeshua Chai Messianic Synagogue

540.Yorusho Aleim Liberation Movement

While you were at it you should have listed all of the Jewish groups also, since that is what you are promoting...

Act 15:5  But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses. 


Gal 5:12 I wish those who unsettle you would emasculate themselves!


Php 3:2 Look out for the dogs, look out for the evildoers, look out for those who mutilate the flesh.

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While you were at it you should have listed all of the Jewish groups also, since that is what you are promoting...

Act 15:5  But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses. 

Gal 5:12 I wish those who unsettle you would emasculate themselves!

Php 3:2 Look out for the dogs, look out for the evildoers, look out for those who mutilate the flesh.

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I believe Paul was talking about the Rulers of the circumcision, such as the Pharisees, Sadducees and High Priests, whom also had Jesus crucified, had Stephen stoned in Acts and tried to kill Paul.

There are both little dogs and adult dogs mentioned in the NT.
Dogs are also mentioned in the Covenantle parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus in Luke 16:

Psalm 22:16
For dogs have surrounded me, assembly of ones doing evil have encompass me as a lion,
hands of me and feet of me.


Philip 3:2
Beware of the dogs! beware of-the evil workers! beware of-the circumcision! [Psalm 22:16/Isaiah 56:11/Revelation 22:15]


http://www.eliyah.com/lexicon.html

2965.
kuon a primary word; a dog ("hound") (literally or figuratively):--dog.

Strong's Number G2965 matches the Greek κύων (kyōn),
which occurs 5 times in 5 verses in the Greek concordance

Mat 7:6
Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, G2965 neither cast ye your pearls before swine,
lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.


Mark 7:
27 Yet Jesus said to her "suffer first to be satisfied the offspring for not is ideal to be getting/taking the bread of the offspring and to be casting to the little dogs/kunarioiV <2952>
28 The yet she answered and is saying to Him "yea Lord! for even the little-dogs/kunaria <2952> underneath of the table are eating from of the crumbs/scraps of the little-children/paidiwn <3813>

[Dogs are also mentioned in the Covenantle parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus in Luke 16:]

Luke 16:21
And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs G2965 came and licked his sores.

http://www.herealittletherealittle.net/index.cfm?page_name=Lazarus

In contrast to the rich man, we now see Lazarus. The first thing to note is that he is depicted as a beggar. This is an apt description of the Gentiles who "laid at the gate" of Judah. Paul describes the predicament of the Gentiles before they accepted the Messiah in his letter to the Ephesians:

EPHESIANS 2:12 Remember that you were at that time separated from Christ, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. (RSV)
This Scripture is also a fitting representation of the position of the nations before the Messiah's sacrifice for the world's sins. They were certainly "excluded from the commonwealth of Israel," "strangers to the covenants of promise," and "without hope and without God in the world." The Gentiles were beggars, located outside Judah and longing to be fed spiritual crumbs from the table of the divinely blessed Jews.

Additionally, we are told that dogs came and consoled Lazarus in his misery, licking his sores. The Jews considered the surrounding Gentiles to be unclean "dogs." Even Yeshua himself used this unflattering comparison when he conversed with the Greek Syrophoenician woman while in the region of Tyre (Mark 7:24-30).

Also important to the story is the meaning of the name Lazarus. This Greek name is a form of the Hebrew Eleazer, and it literally means "he whom God helps." The use of this particular name is very significant to the message of the parable, for the Gentiles would indeed become "those whom God helped" through the sacrifice of His son, Yeshua


Phl 3:2
Beware of dogs, G2965 beware of evil workers, beware of the concision.

2Pe 2:22
But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, 'The dog G2965 is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire'.

Mat 15:
1 Then Pharisees and scribes came to Jesus from Jerusalem and said,.......

12 Then the disciples came and said to him, “Do you know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this saying?"
14 Let them alone; they are blind guides.[fn]
And if the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit.”


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I believe Paul was talking about the Rulers of the circumcision, such as the Pharisees, Sadducees and High Priests, whom also had Jesus crucified, had Stephen stoned in Acts and tried to kill Paul.

There are both little dogs and adult dogs mentioned in the NT.
Dogs are also mentioned in the Covenantle parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus in Luke 16:

Psalm 22:16
For dogs have surrounded me, assembly of ones doing evil have encompass me as a lion,
hands of me and feet of me.


Philip 3:2
Beware of the dogs! beware of-the evil workers! beware of-the circumcision! [Psalm 22:16/Isaiah 56:11/Revelation 22:15]


http://www.eliyah.com/lexicon.html

2965.
kuon a primary word; a dog ("hound") (literally or figuratively):--dog.

Strong's Number G2965 matches the Greek κύων (kyōn),
which occurs 5 times in 5 verses in the Greek concordance

Mat 7:6
Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, G2965 neither cast ye your pearls before swine,
lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.




Mark 7:
27 Yet Jesus said to her "suffer first to be satisfied the offspring for not is ideal to be getting/taking the bread of the offspring and to be casting to the little dogs/kunarioiV <2952>
28 The yet she answered and is saying to Him "yea Lord! for even the little-dogs/kunaria <2952> underneath of the table are eating from of the crumbs/scraps of the little-children/paidiwn <3813>

[Dogs are also mentioned in the Covenantle parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus in Luke 16:]

Luke 16:21

And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs G2965 came and licked his sores.

http://www.herealittletherealittle.net/index.cfm?page_name=Lazarus

In contrast to the rich man, we now see Lazarus. The first thing to note is that he is depicted as a beggar. This is an apt description of the Gentiles who "laid at the gate" of Judah. Paul describes the predicament of the Gentiles before they accepted the Messiah in his letter to the Ephesians:

EPHESIANS 2:12 Remember that you were at that time separated from Christ, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. (RSV)
This Scripture is also a fitting representation of the position of the nations before the Messiah's sacrifice for the world's sins. They were certainly "excluded from the commonwealth of Israel," "strangers to the covenants of promise," and "without hope and without God in the world." The Gentiles were beggars, located outside Judah and longing to be fed spiritual crumbs from the table of the divinely blessed Jews.

Additionally, we are told that dogs came and consoled Lazarus in his misery, licking his sores. The Jews considered the surrounding Gentiles to be unclean "dogs." Even Yeshua himself used this unflattering comparison when he conversed with the Greek Syrophoenician woman while in the region of Tyre (Mark 7:24-30).

Also important to the story is the meaning of the name Lazarus. This Greek name is a form of the Hebrew Eleazer, and it literally means "he whom God helps." The use of this particular name is very significant to the message of the parable, for the Gentiles would indeed become "those whom God helped" through the sacrifice of His son, Yeshua


Phl 3:2
Beware of dogs, G2965 beware of evil workers, beware of the concision.

2Pe 2:22
But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, 'The dog G2965 is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire'.

Mat 15:
1 Then Pharisees and scribes came to Jesus from Jerusalem and said,.......

12 Then the disciples came and said to him, “Do you know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this saying?"
14 Let them alone; they are blind guides.[fn]
And if the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit.”


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462b5ffb0c81f2a0f4b3ee31d034083b.jpg



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The books of Galatians and Hebrews are about the battle between the Old Covenant and the New Covenant.

The battle is still occurring today, right here.

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The books of Galatians and Hebrews are about the battle between the Old Covenant and the New Covenant.

The battle is still occurring today, right here.


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I would say that is correct. Which one are you under?
Ever study on this covenanatle parable/story in Luke 16?
Pretty fascinating if read from a Jewish/Gentile perspective,

http://www.herealittletherealittle.net/index.cfm?page_name=Lazarus

LUKE 16:26
"And besides all this, between us[NC/Spirit/Christ] and ye[OC/Flesh/Moses] there is a great gulf fixed, so that those who want to pass from here to you cannot, nor can those from there pass to us."

What is the "great gulf" which stands between the rich man and Lazarus? Paul aptly explains it to us in the 11th chapter of Romans. He tells us that God has blinded the Jews and "given them a spirit of stupor, eyes that they should not see and ears that they should not hear, to this very day" (Rom. 11:8). He goes on to say that "a partial hardening would happen to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles had come in" (Rom. 11:25). In II Corinthians 3:14-15, Paul says that the Jews' "minds were blinded. For until this day the same veil remains unlifted in the reading of the Old Testament, because the veil is taken away in Christ. But even to this day, when Moses is read, a veil lies on their heart."

The Jews pictured by the rich man in this parable are in their present state because of their unbelief, which ultimately manifested itself in the rejection of the Messiah, Yeshua.
Unfortunately, this parable shows that the punishment and testing they would undergo would not immediately lead them to Yeshua. Instead of calling on the Messiah, the rich man calls on his ancestor Abraham to help ease his suffering.


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Which one are you under?

2Co 3:6  who also made us sufficient as ministers of the new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 

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I believe Paul was talking about the Rulers of the circumcision, such as the Pharisees, Sadducees and High Priests, whom also had Jesus crucified, had Stephen stoned in Acts and tried to kill Paul.

There are both little dogs and adult dogs mentioned in the NT.
Dogs are also mentioned in the Covenantle parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus in Luke 16:
...
Mark 7:
27 Yet Jesus said to her "suffer first to be satisfied the offspring for not is ideal to be getting/taking the bread of the offspring and to be casting to the little dogs/kunarioiV <2952>
28 The yet she answered and is saying to Him "yea Lord! for even the little-dogs/kunaria <2952> underneath of the table are eating from of the crumbs/scraps of the little-children/paidiwn <3813>

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you included Mark 7??

Of course Christ declares His entire ministry to be in full support of the Law of God - as it turns out.

Matt 5
7 "Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. 18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. 19 Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.


"Do we then make VOID the LAW of God by our faith? God forbid! In fact we ESTABLISH the Law of God" Rom 3:31

While some would argue that God's commandments got deleted before the cross - most today would agree that they applied at least until the cross.

Your post appears to argue that some years before the Cross - the Commandments of God as recorded in scripture were deleted.

Jesus appears to refute that idea in Matt 5 and in Mark 7:6-13 Jesus condemns the religious leaders of his day for daring to set aside even one of the commandments of God and replace it with the traditions of man.

Mark 7
And He said to them,"Rightly did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written "This people honors Me with their lips,
But their heart is far away from Me.
7 "But in vain do they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the precepts of men"

8 Neglecting the commandment of God, you hold to the tradition of men.
9 He was also saying to them,;You are experts at setting aside the commandment of God in order to keep your tradition. 10 For Moses said, "Honor your father and your mother " and , " He who speaks evil of father or mother, is to be put to death"; 11 but you say, "If a man says to his father or his mother, whatever I have that would help you is Corban (that is to say, given to God) " 12 you no longer permit him to do anything for his father or his mother; 13 thus invalidating the word of God by your tradition which you have handed down; and you do many things such as that.


Now what is fascinating is that in Ephesians 6 - Paul does NOT quote Christ in Mark 7 when it comes to the 5th commandment - but rather Paul goes to MOSES when it comes to that same 5th commandment.

Eph 6:
6 Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. 2 ";Honor your father and mother," which is the first commandment with promise: 3 "that it may be well with you and you may live long on the earth."

Vs 3 in Eph 6 is right out of Ex 20:12 but it is NOT at all in Mark 7 - Christ's rendering of that same commandment. Paul was not quoting Mark 7 -- He was quoting MOSES.


Is it any wonder then these other Christian sources are so much in agreement with "what matters is keeping the COMMANDMENTS of GOD" 1Cor 7:19??

The "Baptist Confession of Faith"
The "Westminster Confession of Faith"
The Catholic Catechism
D.L. Moody
R.C Sproul
Andy Stanley
Christ himself equates "Word of God" and "Commandment of God" with Law of Moses" in Mark 7.

9 He was also saying to them, "You are experts at setting aside the commandment of God in order to keep your tradition. 10 For Moses said,
 
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BobRyan,
re: "And of course 7th day groups, Seventh-day Baptists Seventh-day Adventists, (and 100's of others)"



A few of the 100s:
Out of all the churches listed how many of them declare that if all other people do not observe the Sabbath we will not inherit the New Earth like SDAs do?

How many of them believe it is by our works that we gain eternal life like SDAs do?

Saturday is just as good a day to assemble as any other day, so what is your point?
 
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Bob S,

re: "Out of all the churches listed how many of them declare that if all other people do not observe the Sabbath we will not inherit the New Earth like SDAs do?"

I don't know.



How many of them believe it is by our works that we gain eternal life like SDAs do?

I don't know.





re: "Saturday is just as good a day to assemble as any other day, so what is your point?"

It's not really a point. I simply wanted to identify some other 7th day organizations for the benefit of anyone who thinks they are limited to just a few such as the SDAs and 7th day Baptists.
 
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you included Mark 7??

Of course Christ declares His entire ministry to be in full support of the Law of God - as it turns out.

Matt 5
7 "Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. 18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. 19 Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.


"Do we then make VOID the LAW of God by our faith? God forbid! In fact we ESTABLISH the Law of God" Rom 3:31

While some would argue that God's commandments got deleted before the cross - most today would agree that they applied at least until the cross.

Your post appears to argue that some years before the Cross - the Commandments of God as recorded in scripture were deleted.

Jesus appears to refute that idea in Matt 5 and in Mark 7:6-13 Jesus condemns the religious leaders of his day for daring to set aside even one of the commandments of God and replace it with the traditions of man.

Mark 7
And He said to them,"Rightly did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written "This people honors Me with their lips,
But their heart is far away from Me.
7 "But in vain do they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the precepts of men"

8 Neglecting the commandment of God, you hold to the tradition of men.
9 He was also saying to them,;You are experts at setting aside the commandment of God in order to keep your tradition. 10 For Moses said, "Honor your father and your mother " and , " He who speaks evil of father or mother, is to be put to death"; 11 but you say, "If a man says to his father or his mother, whatever I have that would help you is Corban (that is to say, given to God) " 12 you no longer permit him to do anything for his father or his mother; 13 thus invalidating the word of God by your tradition which you have handed down; and you do many things such as that.


Now what is fascinating is that in Ephesians 6 - Paul does NOT quote Christ in Mark 7 when it comes to the 5th commandment - but rather Paul goes to MOSES when it comes to that same 5th commandment.

Eph 6:
6 Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. 2 ";Honor your father and mother," which is the first commandment with promise: 3 "that it may be well with you and you may live long on the earth."

Vs 3 in Eph 6 is right out of Ex 20:12 but it is NOT at all in Mark 7 - Christ's rendering of that same commandment. Paul was not quoting Mark 7 -- He was quoting MOSES.


Is it any wonder then these other Christian sources are so much in agreement with "what matters is keeping the COMMANDMENTS of GOD" 1Cor 7:19??

The "Baptist Confession of Faith"
The "Westminster Confession of Faith"
The Catholic Catechism
D.L. Moody
R.C Sproul
Andy Stanley
Christ himself equates "Word of God" and "Commandment of God" with Law of Moses" in Mark 7.

9 He was also saying to them, "You are experts at setting aside the commandment of God in order to keep your tradition. 10 For Moses said,


The Master Carpenter said He would fulfill the contract that no other person had been able to accomplish.

Mat 5:17  'Do not suppose that I came to throw down the law or the prophets—I did not come to throw down, but to fulfill; 
Mat 5:18  for, verily I say to you, till that the heaven and the earth may pass away, one iota or one tittle may not pass away from the law, till that all may come to pass. 


Paul confirms this statement in the Book of Galatians.

Gal 3:17  and this I say, A covenant confirmed before by God to Christ, the law, that came four hundred and thirty years after, doth not set aside, to make void the promise, 
Gal 3:18  for if by law be the inheritance, it is no more by promise, but to Abraham through promise did God grant it . 
Gal 3:19  Why, then, the law? on account of the transgressions it was added, till the seed might come to which the promise hath been made, having been set in order through messengers in the hand of a mediator— 

We are now under a New Covenant. However, it is not "lawless".
It is built upon the foundation of the earlier covenant.
Honor thy Father and Mother will always be in effect under the commandments of 1 John 3:22-24.


I have an Old dial telephone. It still works just fine.
However, it is now "obsolete" because my cell phone does not require a wire to mediate my phone calls.


I also do not continue to pay Concord Telephone Company a monthly fee for using their network of wires.
I now have a better mediator.


Heb 7:12  for the priesthood being changed, of necessity also, of the law a change doth come, 

Heb 8:13  in the saying 'new,' He hath made the first old, and what doth become obsolete and is old is nigh disappearing. (YLT)

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Out of all the churches listed how many of them declare that if all other people do not observe the Sabbath we will not inherit the New Earth

"If all other people do not " what????

Why would "we" not go to heaven if "All other people do not refrain from praying to the dead" or whatever command you "wish" to insert there???

That makes no sense.

oh no wait! That was an emotional appeal you were making. Sorry for my interruption - continue.
 
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The Master Carpenter said He would fulfill the contract that no other person had been able to accomplish.

Mat 5:17  'Do not suppose that I came to throw down the law or the prophets—I did not come to throw down, but to fulfill; 

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Matt 5
18 ""For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished.
19 ""Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven

Rom 8
3 For what the Law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God did: sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and as an offering for sin, He condemned sin in the flesh, 4 so that the requirement of the Law might be fulfilled in us, who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. 5 For those who are according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who are according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. 6 For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the Spirit is life and peace, 7 because the mind set on the flesh is hostile toward God; for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so, 8 and those who are in the flesh cannot please God.

The lost do not submit to the Law of God - they are not even "ABLE" to do so.

Romans 13
8 Owe nothing to anyone except to love one another; for he who loves his neighbor has fulfilled the law. 9 For this, “You shall not commit adultery, You shall not murder, You shall not steal, You shall not covet,” and if there is any other commandment, it is summed up in this saying, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” 10 Love does no wrong to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.

James 2
8 If, however, you are fulfilling the royal law according to the Scripture, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself,” you are doing well. 9 But if you show partiality, you are committing sin and are convicted by the law as transgressors. 10 For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles in one point, he has become guilty of all. 11 For He who said, “Do not commit adultery,” also said, “Do not commit murder.” Now if you do not commit adultery, but do commit murder, you have become a transgressor of the law. 12 So speak and so act as those who are to be judged by the law of liberty.
 
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Matt 5
18 ""For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished.
19 ""Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven

Rom 8
3 For what the Law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God did: sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and as an offering for sin, He condemned sin in the flesh, 4 so that the requirement of the Law might be fulfilled in us, who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. 5 For those who are according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who are according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. 6 For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the Spirit is life and peace, 7 because the mind set on the flesh is hostile toward God; for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so, 8 and those who are in the flesh cannot please God.

The lost do not submit to the Law of God - they are not even "ABLE" to do so.

Romans 13
8 Owe nothing to anyone except to love one another; for he who loves his neighbor has fulfilled the law. 9 For this, “You shall not commit adultery, You shall not murder, You shall not steal, You shall not covet,” and if there is any other commandment, it is summed up in this saying, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” 10 Love does no wrong to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.

James 2
8 If, however, you are fulfilling the royal law according to the Scripture, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself,” you are doing well. 9 But if you show partiality, you are committing sin and are convicted by the law as transgressors. 10 For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles in one point, he has become guilty of all. 11 For He who said, “Do not commit adultery,” also said, “Do not commit murder.” Now if you do not commit adultery, but do commit murder, you have become a transgressor of the law. 12 So speak and so act as those who are to be judged by the law of liberty.

So, Bob, when do you intend to begin obeying all of God's commandments as you insist we should do?
 
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