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Wow I never heard of anyone coming to Christ through U2's music....that would be an awesome testimony. Do you know of any?Axver said:I would prefer to avoid "Christian music". I mainly listen to secular music and Christian secular, particularly the latter because my favourite band, U2, is Christian secular. Firstly, allow me to speak on Satanic music, then I'll add my two cents into this discussion that's gotten going about Christian versus secular.
I would personally avoid Satanic music. Something that is actively promoting something so vile, so evil, so despicable as Satan should be avoided. There's a great difference between secular music and Satanic music. Personally, I listen to songs for two things;
1. The guitar. I LOVE good guitar. This might be why I'm becoming a Pink Floyd fan.
2. The lyrics. I rarely listen to music that doesn't have quality lyrics. Bono of U2 is such a fantastic lyricist - Bad, 11 O'clock Tick Tock, and Running To Stand Still are genius - and I find the lyrics make a song. It's very important. And the best lyricists write lyrics to get you to think, to convey a message, and they are performed in such a way to get your attention, to make you listen and to plant that message in your mind. I write a few songs myself, and if I were to start a band, I'd hope people would listen to my lyrics and think about the points I've made.
Now about Christian versus secular. Many Christian bands lack something that other bands like U2 have (I'm going to use U2 as an example because I know them well, but there's plenty of other good examples out there). When signed under a Christian label, there's certain things you can't write. You can't question, like U2 has done in 'I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For', 'Wake Up Dead Man', 'If God Will Send His Angels' or even 'The Wanderer'. You couldn't write something like 'Wire', 'Bad', or 'Running To Stand Still' because that implies you know someone who used/uses heroin. You couldn't roleplay like in 'Until The End Of The World' (Judas talking to Jesus) or 'The Fly' (described as about a man in Hell who's realised everything too late). The rules are very strange, and many Christian songs just sound like a remix of 'Jesus Loves Me' because the subject matter is so incredibly limited. The message is very simple and just doesn't seem real. There's no depth like in U2's music. Christian music only appeals to Christians and alienates everyone else, whereas Christian secular stuff like U2 appeals to both sides of the fence, paints a very real picture, and can even bring people to Christ (or save their faith, like with me).
Funny you say that Bill, I have never really felt convicted about the music I listen to, EXCEPT the Doors... I still love them, and its hard not to listen to them, but its evebn worse being convicted for listening to them.ps139 said:
I also have been feeling some bad vibes from the Doors lately. Some songs, not all of them though.
What is a bad word?Manic Depressive Mouse said:Why do some fundamentalist Christians look down on Christians who listen to rock 'n roll as if it's some kind of Satanic religion, or un-Christian? For example, the Killers album "Hot Fuss" is pure rock, but there's not a single bad word in it... What's the (percieved?) harm? Jesus never separated Himself from the real world; quite the contrary. So why are we expected to? You can be "in the world but not of the world".
You're assuming that the music is Satanic to biegin with, and then using that to prove that it is Satanic. Not a great fan of circular logic myself.Dj Capron said:when you open doors for the deval to get in.
Jesus didnt separate Himself from the real world but He wasnt a particpant of the real world. If Jesus was sitting right next to you, would you say hey Jesus listen to this awesome music that I like?Manic Depressive Mouse said:Why do some fundamentalist Christians look down on Christians who listen to rock 'n roll as if it's some kind of Satanic religion, or un-Christian? For example, the Killers album "Hot Fuss" is pure rock, but there's not a single bad word in it... What's the (percieved?) harm? Jesus never separated Himself from the real world; quite the contrary. So why are we expected to? You can be "in the world but not of the world".
Just curious would you ask Jesus to listen to Morbid Angel and King Diamond with you?MetalBlade said:I strongly believe that music does not influence you in any way, unless you are a psycho to begin with or was raised with no morals or something of that nature. I listen to Morbid Angel and King Diamond (mostly for guitar riffs!) and both are satanic. But I am not satanic! I am a Christian! I believe in God, and Jesus Christ as my only one true Savior!!! Granted some of the really hardcore bands that just scream f$#$ jesus, I don't listen to for the simple fact that it discusts me. And I also agree with feral and Mr. Cheese, lol!
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