Satan/Lucifer and the Antichrist.

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The beast for the most part is not a group of Islamic nations, but America itself is very much involved, along with the rich elite of the world such as; the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds. If you wanna know in depth detail about the current Antichrist agenda, I suggest you go to youtube.com and watch the "Lucifer Rising -the Satanic Illuminati Conspiracy" documentary which covers the illuminati conspiracy theory, which I found to be more than just that, but 99% true! They seem to know a lot about this stuff with very accurate info and oncover secrets that this government tries so hard to conceal! Is not our government (US) the one that dethroned and replaced Saddam with a candidate of their choice? Are we not also the ones that got invloved in taking down Qadhafi? Seems pretty suspicious to me! No, I know that the US government is the one attempting to Antichrist himself, and that he is in this nation, (for the most part anyways, cuz he's already kinda everywhere). If you look under the surface, you'll find that this is a very Satanic world system, esp. here in the US, involving mind control (MK Ultra), segregation (the racist agendas against African Americans, Mexicans, along with others (foreign policies), seperation of church and state, etc. etc.), moral degeneration (our mainstream entertainment), warfare and world domination (hence how many of the most recent wars have involved the US), wealth, etc. etc. etc. Hence how all of these things are US programs and agendas! And there is indeed a war taking place, right now, even as I type this, if you look real closely, which is most heavy right here in the US! Look closely!

segregation (the racist agendas against African Americans, Mexicans, along with others (foreign policies)

You said ''Against'' -All races are better separated than mixed.Inter mixture is what destroys a people.
I would hardly call it racist especially if facts are been suppressed by total media black out.
The racist blacks in South Africa have murdered thousands of whites
Google - the south Africa Project
The crime rate in the USA is against the African-Americans,they have a crime rate which is startling!(37,460 Reported Black Rapes or Sexual Assaults on Whites –Less than 10 White sexual attacks on Black women!)
Multi-Culturism destroy people,not unites.For example.
German Chancellor Angela Merkel has said that attempts at creating a multi-cultural society in Germany have "utterly failed." Merkel was addressing a national meeting of the youth wing of her Christian Democratic Union (CDU) party.
Integration destroys,look at Portugal,when the black slaves were brought over they were told(Portugese folk) by the government to intermix,now,Portugal is a forgotten country.
The Encyclopedia Britannica, 11th ed., 1911, in its article on Portugal states, "The Portuguese intermarried freely with their slaves, and this infusion of alien blood profoundly modified the character and physique of the nation. It may be said without exaggeration that the Portuguese of the 'age of discoveries' and the Portuguese of the 17th and later centuries were two different races."
This is not racist if it is fact!
There is no agenda AGAINST African Americans. the AGENDA is against the Caucasian population,who have been fed lies about equality and how non-whites have done poorly.
What goes on is that it is wrong to be white.
It is OK for black pride,or Jewish pride or Gay pride but not white pride.
People believe that idiot box,called the TV as facts and Truth....


It's laughable that people will cry racist! racist! because of the simple facts that have been posted....

 

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The Rapture is a false doctrine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Judging from how you misinterpret scripture, just about any doctrine can be misunderstood. Don't be offended, especially if you are a new Christian, young in the faith and/or have been misguided. It's OK, we all have to start somewhere.
In my post that you copied, I don't recall mentioning the rapture, but I'd be glad to direct you to specific scriptures that verify the wonderful and certain "Harpazo".

"For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord." Thes. 4:16, 17

"Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed— in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed." 1 Cor. 15:51, 52

This is the resurrection of the dead and living that we all look forward to. If there is no resurrection, than Christ did not rise either. This is why he rose so that we could and have eternal bodies like his. We will be changed in a flash ... and that is not false doctrine.

 

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Judging from how you misinterpret scripture, just about any doctrine can be misunderstood. Don't be offended, especially if you are a new Christian, young in the faith and/or have been misguided. It's OK, we all have to start somewhere.
In my post that you copied, I don't recall mentioning the rapture, but I'd be glad to direct you to specific scriptures that verify the wonderful and certain "Harpazo".

"For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord." Thes. 4:16, 17

"Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed— in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed." 1 Cor. 15:51, 52

This is the resurrection of the dead and living that we all look forward to. If there is no resurrection, than Christ did not rise either. This is why he rose so that we could and have eternal bodies like his. We will be changed in a flash ... and that is not false doctrine.

Read this.....
It may explain the rapture doctrine.....

The Rapture of the Wicked
By
Stephen E. Jones


1. FUTURISM VS. HISTORICISM
There are two great divisions of thought regarding people's view of prophecy: The
Futurist and the Historicist. Both teach that Messiah will return to earth, but the division
arises over the manner of His coming and its timing in relation to "the Tribulation."
Now some may say, what difference does it make HOW Messiah returns, so long as we
all believe that Messiah will indeed come? Is it really an important issue? How will our
viewpoint of prophecy affect our thoughts and actions in preparation for the return of
Messiah?
First of all, it should be established that our eternal destiny and salvation does not stand
or fall upon our belief in either viewpoint. However, our doctrines will determine our
courses of action and our basic attitudes and outlook on the world in general. Thus, the
issue is important to that degree.
The Historical view holds that the tribulation in the book of Revelation is almost
completely fulfilled, except for the final downfall of 'Mystery Babylon." The Futurist view
teaches that almost all of Revelations events have a future fulfillment
The Historicist teaches that the "Revived Roman Empire" prophesied by Daniel was
fulfilled in Papal Rome, and that the "great harlot" now primarily rides the "scarlet
coloured beast" (Revelation 17:3) of Red Communism. The Futurist teaches that the
Revived Roman Empire is yet future, and it is often identified with the present-day
Common Market of Western Europe.
The Historicist notes that all through the centuries the Assembly has undergone
tribulation and persecution at the hands of Mystery Babylon, as it rides on various beast
empires and systems throughout the course of history. The average American Futurist
is confident that he will be removed from the earth before such tribulation arrives at his
own door step.
The Historicist, in his study of the world situation in this century, learns that communism,
the Red Beast, has murdered untold millions of Believers and other innocent victims
since 1917, probably more than have been slaughtered in all of past history. Many of
these were tortured and were forced to live a life worse than death. From his historical
perspective he reasons that such tribulation does not have to fall upon the American
assembly before it can be properly labeled "tribulation." Furthermore, if such terrible
tribulation has already fallen upon untold millions of Believers, how can we claim that
Yahweh will remove us from the earth before it comes to America.
So whereas our view of Bible prophecy does not affect our salvation, it does affect our
thinking, our outlook on the world scene, and it will have a great effect upon our
preparation for the return of Messiah.
On the other hand, the Futurist views the rise of Red Bolshevism with a strange
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curiosity. Since he believes that a future "anti-messiah" will arise as head of the revived
Roman Empire (i.e., the Common Market of Western Europe), he cannot identify this
Bolshevism with Bible prophecy, at least not directly. Instead, it has become common
teaching that the Anti-messiah's empire in the West will elect the Anti-messiah to rule
over them as a defense against Red Bolshevism.
Thus, the Historicist generally will do what he can to oppose Bolshevism and its child,
the Socialistic World Government. He is more aware of the nature of the conflict
between East and West, between Socialistic Communism and Christian Republicanism.
The Futurist, when confronted with the millions who have died agonizing deaths and
languish in slave camps, can only say, "Well, just wait until the Anti-messiah comes;
that will make Communism look like child's play!"
2. SAINTS IN TRIBULATION
The Futurist are fond of claiming that the various "beasts" spoken of in the book of
Revelation are representative of the "Anti-messiah" or his allies who will rule the world
during a future tribulation. However, the visions of Daniel clearly identify the beasts as
representing the various nations and systems of government that were to rise to power
from Daniel's day to the end of this age. In the seventh chapter of Daniel those four
Beasts are described as (1) a lion with eagle's wings, (2) a bear, (3) a leopard with four
heads and four wings, (4) an unidentified beast with iron teeth and great strength, and
(5) a "little horn" arising out of the previous beast.
Daniel beheld this "little horn" warring against the saints, and it "prevailed against them"
(Daniel 7:21) until the time came for the saints to take the Kingdom from him. There is
no hint that anyone will be able to escape to heaven before this "little horn" appears.
This is especially made plain in Daniel 7:25-27.
25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the
saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be
given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
26 But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume
and to destroy it unto the end.
27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the
whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose
kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.
This passage is usually explained to mean that the saints are the Jews, who will
supposedly be left on the earth during the great tribulation. However, Yahshua taught
that the Jews were not to inherit the Kingdom of Yahweh in Matthew 21:43-45.
43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of Yahweh shall be taken from you,
and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
44 And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it
shall fall, it will grind him to powder.
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45 And when the chief priests and Pharisees had heard his parables, they
perceived that he spake of them.
Note especially that in speaking of the Kingdom of Yahweh, Yahshua called it "this
stone" in verse 44. He was referring to the great Stone Kingdom of Daniel 2:34, 35,
which is said to smash the image of the beast and break in pieces all of the empires it
represented. Yahshua said that this stone would grind to powder all on whomsoever it
shall fall. And it was to fall on the Jewish Pharisees, and by implication, all who followed
their anti-messiah religion.
Thus, it is not possible that the saints against whom the "little horn" wars should be the
Jews. They must be a Covenant keeping people.
The notion that Believers will not have to face the tribulation of this world is foreign to
the Scriptures. If a modem rapture-teaching preacher had lived in Rome 1800 years
ago, proclaiming that those persecuted Believers would escape tribulation, he would
have been dis-fellowshipped from the church as a deceiver, or he would have been
laughed out of the church for being a fool. In those days Believers were being
slaughtered just for sport.
The Red Beast of New World Order and Catholic Church is the modem vehicle that
carries the "great harlot" of Mystery Babylon. The Believers behind the Iron Curtain do
not believe in a pre-tribulation rapture. They-like the Christian martyrs of ancient Romesee
tribulation all around them. How odd it is that Believers living in the West would be
so near-sighted and so insensitive as to suppose that the tribulation could NOT have
arrived on the earth until it lands on American soil! Thank Yahweh the full force of evil
has not yet come upon this late great Christian Republic, but let us not forget our
persecuted brethren or think that Yahweh measures tribulation by its exclusive effect
upon American Believers.
3.WHERE IS THE KINGDOM OF YAHWEH?
A strange phenomena has appeared in the doctrinal position of thousands of today's
professing Christians. At one moment they speak of going to heaven in the rapture (or
when they die), where they say they will live FOREVER; but then in the next breath they
speak of Messiah coming to earth with His saints to rile all nations with a rod of iron
(Revelation 2:26,27).
This doctrinal schizophrenia is readily apparent to those who teach only one of the
above positions. However, there are literally millions who believe both to be true, in
spite of their inherent contradiction.
So we must examine the Scriptures to see where the Bible locates Yahweh's Kingdom
and where Messiah shall reign with His saints. Where is the inheritance of the believer?
Does the Bible promise heaven or earth as the eternal abode of the Believer?
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If believers are to receive their inheritance in heaven, then the rapture would be a
logical method of ferrying them to their reward. If, however, our inheritance is on the
earth, then there would be no need for a rapture, except (as is supposed) to prevent us
from undergoing tribulation.
We have already seen that the Beast-systems were to make war against the saints here
on the earth. We also touched upon the great Stone Kingdom that was to smash the
other kingdoms and grind them to powder. This great Kingdom, the Kingdom of
Yahweh, "became a great mountain, and filled the whole EARTH" (Daniel 2:35).
Those who rule with Messiah in His Kingdom will be on earth as well, for we read in
Revelation 5:10, "and we shall reign on the earth." This is but a reflection of the Old
Testament Scripture. As far back as the days of Moses, this was the great hope of the
believers. Numbers 14:21 reads,
21 But as truly as I live, all the earth shall be filled with the glory of the YAHWEH.
Two other prophets took up the same themes. See Isaiah 11:9 and Habakkuk 2:14
David's theme, repeated over and over in Psalm 37 was that "the meek shall inherit the
earth." Yahshua verified His doctrine in His sermon on the mount, when He taught the
people in Matthew 5:5,
5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
Yahshua viewed the earth with a great deal more respect than many Believers do
today. After all, He was the Creator of this earth (John 1:3), and thus His was the voice
which pronounced it "very good" (Genesis 1:31). It was Yahshua who inspired the
Psalmist to write Psalm 115:16
16 The heaven, even the heavens, are YAHWEH'S: but the earth hath he given
to the children of men.
When we learn to view Creation with the same love as does it Creator, we will not
despise Yahweh's good earth. Instead, out of love we will attempt to fulfill the first and
foremost responsibility that Yahweh gave to man: to subdue and have dominion
(authority under Yahweh) over the earth (Genesis 1:28), which is Yahshua's footstool
(Matthew 5:35). When Yahshua Messiah finally sets up Hs Divine Government on the
earth, and when true Believers rule with Him in the Kingdom, then the earth will indeed
become a paradise once again. It will be "heaven on earth," fit for habitation for Messiah
and Hs people.
4. MEETING YAHSHUA IN THE AIR
Perhaps the most well-known Bible passage known today in rapture-believing circles is
1 Thessalonians 4:16,17.
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16 For Yahshua himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice
of the archangel, and with the trump of Yahweh: and the dead in Messiah shall
rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in
the clouds, to meet Yahshua in the air. and so shall we ever be with Yahshua.
This passage teaches that Messiah shall return to the earth some day, and that the
resurrection of the dead in Messiah shall occur before the living believers are caught up
to meet Messiah in the air. BUT THERE IS NO MENTION OF ANYONE GOING TO
HEAVEN.
So the question is this: When the believers "meet Yahshua in the air," will they escort

 

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Him back to earth to rule in His Kingdom, or will Messiah escort them back to heaven
for a time? In other words, shall we "ever be with Yahshua” in heaven or on earth?
The key to understanding this question is found in the verb, "to meet." The Greek word
used by Paul here is apantesis, and this particular word is loaded with meaning which
does not come forth in our English translation of the word. It is a word which was used
in ancient times to describe the actions of an official welcoming delegation that had
been sent "to meet" a visiting dignitary. Thus, it literally means, "meeting and returning
with." It was customary back then (as it is today) that when a V.I.P. visits a city, the
leader of that city send out a delegation to welcome him and escort him to the mayor.
Thus, when the Queen of England visited President Ford during the American
Bicentennial, she was not expected to get off the plane and call a cab to take her to the
White House. No, she was met by a special committee that escorted her to the White
House.
Therefore, when Paul uses the term apantesis to describe our action in meeting
Messiah, he uses this particular term to show us that we are going to be sent TO
ESCORT MESSIAH BACK TO EARTH WHEN HE SETS UP HIS KINGDOM.
Those who find this information to be unbelievable may do further study on this Greek
word by noting how it is used in other Bible passages. The word is used in three other
New Testament passages:
(1)Matthew 25:1 and 6 speaks of the ten virgins, who "went forth TO MEET the
bridegroom." It was common practice in ancient times for the wedding parry to escort
the bridegroom to the bride after the marriage supper.
(2) John 12:13 speaks of Messiah's triumphal entry into Jerusalem (a prophetic type of
Messiah's second coming at which time He will truly have a triumphal entry). 1t says
that the people "took branches of palm trees and went forth TO MEET Him." Yahshua
certainly did not turn around and escort the people back to Bethany with Him! No, the
people escorted Yahshua to Jerusalem.
(3) Acts 28:15 speaks of Paul's journey to Rome as a prisoner. When the Believers
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heard that Paul was outside the city, "they came
TO MEET us as far as Appii forum," which was about 43 miles from the city. They
treated Paul like a Believer V.I.P., and Paul's heart was encouraged at their boldness to
be identified as Believer friends of his.
Thus, we conclude that Paul was not teaching that Believers would return to heaven
with Messiah, but rather that Believers would form Messiah's escort back to earth.
A few verses later (in chapter 5) Paul writes further about "the day of Yahshua."
2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of Yahshua so cometh as a thief in
the night.
3 For when they shall say, Peace and Safety, then sudden destruction cometh
upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a
thief.
In reading this passage, most of us immediately picture Messiah coming as a burglar
and stealing something of value in secret. However, 2,000 years ago a "thief in the
night" usually meant something entirely different. It was common in those days for a
band of robbers to swoop down upon an unprotected and unsuspecting village in the
middle of the night, when the people were sleeping peacefully. The thieves would storm
into town, throw everyone out of bed, strip the village of all its valuables, and kill anyone
who resisted.
This is what Paul meant when he compared the return of Messiah to "a thief in the
night" While the world sleeps in "peace and safety," then will come "sudden destruction"
upon the wicked, "and they shall not escape." However, the Believers, who are "men"
on the walls, will not be taken by surprise. They will have prepared themselves for this
"sudden destruction" (called "tribulation), and thus they will not be harmed.
Amos 5:18 has this to say about that day:
18 Woe unto you that desire the day of Yahweh! To what end is it for you? The
day of Yahweh is darkness, and not light.
The prophet Joel echoes the same theme in Joel 1:15.
15 Alas, for the day! For the day of Yahweh is at hand, and as a destruction from
the Almighty shall it come.
Again, he describes the day in chapter 2, verses 1-2.
1 Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain; let all
the inhabitants of the land tremble; for the day of Yahweh cometh, for it is nigh at
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hand:
2 A day of darkness and gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick darkness, as
the morning spread upon the mountains; a great people and a strong, there hath
not been ever the like, neither shall be any more after it, even to the years of
many generations.
The descriptions of this alien enemy invading the land fits perfectly the armies of Red
Communism today. Yahweh said that they would be "my great army which I sent among
you" (2:25) in order that the people might repent from their sins, call upon Yahweh for
divine intervention and protection, and that Yahshua would then come to save them.
For the vast majority of the people, including, sad to say, many professing Believers,
this day of Yahweh will come upon them unexpectedly. They will not have prepared
themselves spiritually, mentally, or physically for such times.
So let us strive to be as those to whom Paul wrote: 'But ye, brethren, are not in
darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief."
Thus, we see that in I Thessalonians 4 and 5 Paul does NOT teach a pre-tribulation
rapture, but rather that when Yahshua comes, we will welcome I-Jim back to earth,
where He shall rile all nations in righteousness.
5. FOR HIS SAINTS AND WITH HIS SAINTS
It is common among rapture teachers to hear the theory that the Bible teaches two
separate comings of Messiah in the future-the first time FOR His saints, and the second
tine WITH His saints. In other words, the theory says that Messiah will only snatch the
Believers off the earth when they go out to "meet Him in the air," and then after a period
of either 3 1/2 or 7 years in heaven, Messiah will return to earth WITH those Believers.
This is not true. The Assembly will all stay here till the end of the tribulation when He
comes for them to include them in His final judgment.
This theory of a double coming is only partially based upon 1 Thessalonians 4:17, 18. It
is mostly based upon Jude 14 and 15, which reads:
14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying,
Behold, Yahweh cometh WITH ten thousands of His saints,
15 To execute judgment upon all, and to convince (convict) all that are
unrighteous among them of all their unrighteous deeds which they have
committed, and of all their hand speech which unrighteous sinners have spoken
against Him.
Yahshua did come with ten thousand angels at Sinai, but these are not the saints that
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will came with Him, to judge the world at the end time, at the last Trump, the last Feast
of Trumpets at the end of the three and one half years. Nor was Sinai the time when all
were judged. The coming at Sinai was to give the law, not to judge! One must realize
also, that in some scriptures saints represent angelic host (Deut 33:3), where in others
like Jude, (Matt 27:52; acts 9:13; Rom 1:7) represents the believers or the very elect
that are in the first resurrection. This also includes the two witnesses that are called up
and are raised from the dead as they lay in the streets of Jerusalem. (Rev 11:3)
Now when Yahweh (Yahshua) descended upon Mount Sinai to give the Law to Israel,
did He come with ten thousand Believers? No! He came with angelic host, but the term
saints now means the ones that died in faith or were alive at His corning. These verses
14 and 15 are speaking of the judgment and Yahshua’s final victory over all His
enemies and to claim the earth as Ids throne, dwelling at Jerusalem. There is not two
coming as we hear the Sunday people say, but one. One return at the end of the
tribulation to take them up or meet Him in the clouds and escort Him back to finish the
judgment. It can not be any other way. To start with, look at Revelations 1:7.
7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also
which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even
so...
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall
other _ her his elect from the four winds from one end of heaven to the other.
Again we see that He does come with angelic host, but also to gather His elect to Him
as He returns. And notice that it says after the tribulation this occurs. Nowhere does it
say that He comes twice, or even at the beginning. The Assembly is still an earth during
the tribulation! Remember, all scripture has to agree. And every fact is established by
two or more witnesses as we give you here. Now look at what happens to the Assembly
in the end time.
Revelation 12:14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she
might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time and times
and half a time from the face of the serpent
See that John is very specific. He says that she is in the wilderness, which can not be
heaven. And he says that she is there for the entire time of the tribulation, three and one
half years. If this is not enough, let us go to the book of Corinthians for a third witness.
1 Corinthians 15:51-53 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we
shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eve, at the last trump: for the
trumpet shall sound and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be
changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on
immortality.
We have already seen that the dead are raised and given glorified bodies at Hs coming
Here it makes it clear that that coming is at the last trumpet of Revelation, at the end of
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the tribulation or three and one half years.
Now let us finally go to the first scripture that was mentioned, but was not discussed, l
Thessalonians 4:14-17
14 For if we believe that Yahshua died and rose again, even so them also which
sleep in Yahshua will Yahweh bring with him.
15 For this we say unto you by the word of Master, that we which are alive and
remain unto the coming of the Master shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For Yahshua himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice
of the archangel, and with the trump of Yahweh: and the dead in Messiah shall
rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in
the clouds, to meet Yahshua in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Master.
What does this say? Yahshua will come at the last trumpet, and raise the elect and we
will be with them and meet Him at His coming What could be plainer than that. Notice
also that it says that they that sleep in Him shall be raised. This means two things. It
means that they died in faith keeping the commandments and whole covenant including
Saturday Sabbath, but they are in the ground sleeping, not in heaven as the Sunday
doctrines teach.
So in conclusion of this discussion of " FOR HIS SAINTS AND WITH HIS SAINTS" it is
a clear teaching of error to say that Yahshua comes twice. It is error to say that He
comes at the beginning or the middle of the tribulation. Even Yahweh, our father Himself
said in Psalms 110:1.
1 Yahweh said unto my Master, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make throe
enemies thy footstool.
This explains that Yahshua stays at the right hand of Yahweh as intercessor till He
comes to finish the judgment after His enemies are made Ids footstool. Any other
doctrine is not the doctrine of Messiah.
6. ONE SHALL BE TAKEN, THE OTHER LEFT
Matthew 24:37-42 is perhaps the second most popular Bible passage (other than 1
Thessalonians 4:17, 18) to teach the pre-tribulation rapture of the assembly. The
passage is a comparison between Messiah's second coming and the days of Noah
leading up to the flood. Yahshua said here:
37 But as the days of Noe (Noah) were, so shall also the coming of the Son of
man be.
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38 For as in the days that were before the flood, they (THE WICKED) were
eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe
entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came and took them (THE WICKED) all away; so
shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one (THE WICKED) shall be taken, and the
other (THE BELIEVER) left.
41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one (TIE WICKED) shall be
taken, and the other (THE BELIEVER) left.
As you noted in reading the above verses, the flood of Noah's time took the wicked
people away (off the earth). In the same manner, when Messiah returns, the coming of
the Son of man will see the wicked taken away, and the righteous will be left to inherit a
cleansed earth, AS DID NOAH.
Those who teach the opposite view, that the one "taken" is the believer and the one
"left" is the unbeliever, miss the fact that the plural pronoun "them" can only refer to all
the wicked people in verse 38. "Them" could hardly refer to Noah's family, because the
wording of the passage is such that Noah is referred to individually. It would have been
poor grammar to use a plural pronoun in reference to the singular noun, "Noah."
There is also the obvious fact that Noah was not removed from the earth, but was rather
preserved THROUGH the flood ("tribulation"). If Yahweh can protect His Covenant
people here on the earth as He did with Noah and his family, then why must we think
that Yahweh must remove Believers from the earth in a rapture in order to protect
them?
However, be that as it may, since there is some question involved in this passage as to
who was removed, let us allow Yahshua's other parables to interpret the meaning for
us. Do other passages teach a "taking away" (removal) of the Believers from the earth,
or do they teach the "taking away" of the wicked? In other words, do other Bible
passages teach the rapture of the assembly or the "rapture" of the wicked?

 

[dagelos]

7. THE CLEANSING OF THE KINGDOM
The Scriptures are full of references to the wicked ones being removed from the earth,
so that the righteous may inherit a cleansed Kingdom. Solomon wrote in Proverbs:
1. The righteous shall NEVER BE REMOVED; but the wicked shall not inhabit the earth.
(Proverbs 10:30)
2. For the upright shall dwell in the land....But the wicked shall be cut off from the earth,
and the transgressors shall be rooted out of it. (Proverbs 2:21, 22)
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3. Be not afraid of sudden fear, neither of the desolation of the wicked, when it cometh.
For Yahweh shall be thy confidence, and shall keep thy foot from being taken.
(Proverbs 3:25, 26)
Isaiah also echoes this same theme in Isaiah 13:
9 Behold the day of Yahweh cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to
lay the land desolate; and HE SHALL DESTROY THE SINNERS THEREOF
OUT OF IT.
13 Therefore I will shake the heavens, and the earth shall remove out of her
place, in the wrath of Yahweh of hosts, and in the day of His fierce anger.
The prophet Haggai also refers to the day of Yahweh, when Messiah shall come in
judgment. Haggai 2:6 says,
6 For thus saith Yahweh of hosts; Yet once, it is a little while, and I will shake the
heavens, and the earth, and the sea, and the dry land.
The New Testament author of the book of Hebrews referred to this passage in Haggai
in Hebrews twelve.
26 Whose voice then shook the earth, but now He hath promised, saying, Yet
once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven.
27 And this word, "yet once more." signifieth the REMOVING OF THOSE
THINGS THAT ARE SHAKEN, as of things that are made, that those things
which cannot be shaken may remain.
28 Wherefore, we receiving a Kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have
grace, whereby we may serve Yahweh acceptably with reverence and righteous
fear.
In each case the theme is clear: Yahweh will soon shake the earth in tribulation, in order
to throw down all man-made systems and in order to remove all the wicked from the
earth. This shake-down will be so great in the day of Yahweh that only those things
which support Yahweh's Kingdom will remain standing. Yahweh will cleanse His earth
and rule all nations in righteousness.
Yahshua's parables of the Kingdom reveal the same theme as well. In Matthew 13:2430
Yahshua pictured the Son of man planting good seed in his field, and then one night an
enemy sowed tares among the wheat. In the parable, no one appeared to know about
the tares until the wheat and the tares began to bear fruit (or go to seed). At that point
the tares were discovered, and the servants asked what to do about it. The Son of man
instructed them to await the harvest, lest the wheat plants be rooted up along with the
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tares.
Then the instructions were to "gather ye together FIRST THE TARES, and bind them in
bundles to burn them." and then gather the wheat into the bam.
The lesson is clear for those who know what tares are. Tares are today known as
zewan in Palestine. Tares look like wheat plants as they mature, but when they are full
grown and begin to bear fruit, the fruit of the wheat is golden, while that of the tares is
almost black. The wheat is nourishing, but the fruit of the tares is bitter and poisonous.
Farmers have to remove each tare seed from the wheat before grinding the wheat to
flour.
Thus, the tares were separated and removed from the wheat FIRST. The wicked are to
be removed from the earth--not the righteous. Hence, we look not for the rapture of the
assembly, but rather for the "rapture" of the wicked. Only then will come the "harvest,"
when the righteous will "shine forth as the sun in the Kingdom of their Father" (Matthew
13:43).
Later in this same chapter Yahshua told another similar parable, in which a fisherman
cast his nets into the water and drew to shore all types of fish, both good and bad. Then
he sat down and separated the fish. Yahshua concluded the parable with these words:
49 So shall it be at the end of the world (age), the angles (elect of Yahweh) shall
come forth, and SEVER THE WICKED from among the just.
Again, note that it is not the just who will be "removed," but rather the wicked. This is the
constant and consistent theme throughout the Scriptures. We are never given any good
reason to believe anything different.
8. CONCLUSION
In ancient times the prophets saw a long-term conflict between two great cities:
Jerusalem and Babylon. Jerusalem was the city from which Yahweh ruled in
righteousness; Babylon was the city from which the false gods ruled by their own manmade
laws. These two cities represented two opposing systems of government, two
different social orders, two different economic systems, and above all, two different
religions. (Worship of Yahweh and followers of Baal).
Both of these cities were eventually destroyed, but their influences and systems lived
on. In prophetic terms they are known as the New Jerusalem and Mystery Babylon.
These are not literal cities any move. Mystery Babylon is not the old city, nor is the New
Jerusalem the same as the old city of Jerusalem.
When Yahweh revealed to John the destruction of Mystery Babylon in Revelation 17-19,
He told His people in chapter 18,
4...Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye
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receive not of her plagues. (Come out of the world and Beast power.)
5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and Yahweh hath remembered her
iniquities.
6 REWARD HER EVEN AS SHE REWARDED YOU, and double unto her double
according to her works; in the cup which she hath filled, fill to her double.
In other words, Yahweh has commanded Covenant people everywhere to leave the
Babylonian system (political, social, economic, and religious Babylon), in order that we
be not accomplices in her sins and thus receive her judgment.
Secondly, Yahweh commanded Covenant people to judge Babylon and reward her
even as she rewarded you. The Law of Yahweh specifies that the witnesses against a
criminal are to be first to stone those convicted of capital crimes. As Believers, we are
witnesses against Mystery Babylon and will eventually be called to witness against her
and stone her. The Law also demands that the offender pay double restitution to his
victims in case of theft. Thus, Yahweh says to render to Babylon double what she has
done to you. Paul wrote in 1 Corinthians 6:2,
2 Do ye not know that the saints will judge the world? and if the world shall be
judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
Thus, our righteous duties preclude us from leaving the earth before the time of
judgment. Yahweh expects us to prepare ourselves to judge His enemies in Mystery
Babylon. But we must be careful not to do so before the harvest, or we may uproot the
wheat along with the tares.
But how shall we prepare ourselves to be used in the judgment of the Great harlot, if
we are only planning to evacuate the earth before that judgment? This is not so much a
question of salvation as it is a question of how much we will be used of Yahweh in His
great plan for us, as part of our inheritance. (Psalm 149)
When viewed from that perspective, it does make a great deal of difference which view
of prophecy we take. Futurism, along with its child, the doctrine of the pre-tribulation
rapture of the assembly, will provide little incentive for the average Believer to prepare
to judge the world by the Divine Law. How many Believers today study the Law of
Yahweh to learn the basic principles of Divine Justice?
Let us be about our Father's business and occupy till He comes again. Let us study to
show ourselves approved unto Yahweh. Let us learn the basic principles of Bible Law
and government, that we may be able to judge righteously. Let us prepare ourselves to
rule with Messiah on the earth in a cleansed Kingdom.
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[apocolypticremedy999]

segregation (the racist agendas against African Americans, Mexicans, along with others (foreign policies)
You said ''Against'' -All races are better separated than mixed.Inter mixture is what destroys a people.
I would hardly call it racist especially if facts are been suppressed by total media black out.
The racist blacks in South Africa have murdered thousands of whites
Google - the south Africa Project
The crime rate in the USA is against the African-Americans,they have a crime rate which is startling!(37,460 Reported Black Rapes or Sexual Assaults on Whites –Less than 10 White sexual attacks on Black women!)
Multi-Culturism destroy people,not unites.For example.
German Chancellor Angela Merkel has said that attempts at creating a multi-cultural society in Germany have "utterly failed." Merkel was addressing a national meeting of the youth wing of her Christian Democratic Union (CDU) party.
Integration destroys,look at Portugal,when the black slaves were brought over they were told(Portugese folk) by the government to intermix,now,Portugal is a forgotten country.
The Encyclopedia Britannica, 11th ed., 1911, in its article on Portugal states, "The Portuguese intermarried freely with their slaves, and this infusion of alien blood profoundly modified the character and physique of the nation. It may be said without exaggeration that the Portuguese of the 'age of discoveries' and the Portuguese of the 17th and later centuries were two different races."
This is not racist if it is fact!
There is no agenda AGAINST African Americans. the AGENDA is against the Caucasian population,who have been fed lies about equality and how non-whites have done poorly.
What goes on is that it is wrong to be white.
It is OK for black pride,or Jewish pride or Gay pride but not white pride.
People believe that idiot box,called the TV as facts and Truth....
It's laughable that people will cry racist! racist! because of the simple facts that have been posted....

To an extent I agree with you. The only true union should be in Christ, for otherwise there will always be unrest within peoples, plus Christ is their creator, and the Father through him, and he is the one that paid their price by dying for them (all peoples) on the cross, therefore there should only be true unity and equality in Christ alone, for as it is written; 'There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.' -Galatians 3:28. However, at the same time, I do not justify racial schism, for it is a problem, but that's why I do advocate the name of the Lord to be the solution! Racial segragation, along with other problems in the world, (war, crime, sexual immorality, and just sin in general) are all problems within the world that must be done away with eventually.

And yes, there are problems within the African American community just as there is everywhere else. Just as many whites mudered and tortured African Americans during the early settelment period in America, amny African Americans thus retaliated by killing whites, which is wrong just as is fighting fire with fire, hence why Jesus called us to love our enemies. And unfortunately, many Afrcian Americans rejected this Jesus, as did many other peoples, which resulted in the degeneration of many "minorities" such as them and the crime rate in ghettos. Not to say that all of them did, for I'm sure there have been plenty of African Americans throughout history that have truly been saved and are on their way to true freedom. And today, many Afrcian Americans discriminate against their own people and voluntarily fall slaves to the white supremisist and the racist system. They do exactly what Martin Luther King Jr. spoke against; he said; "Those who passively accept evil are just as guilty as those who perpetrate it." And this is so true, but apparently his words fell upon deaf ears within his own black community. Blacks are killing their own brothers and sisters for dough, materials, etc. etc. It's tragic and foolish. I've also found an overwhelming ammount of blacks handing themselves over to mind control and worship the Antichrist himself! But keep in mind the condition that many Afrcian Americans have had to live in. Think of the way so many of them were oppressed and impoverished during the early settlement times all the way up till the early 1960's, until people like Harriet Truman, Rosa Parks, Martin Luther King Jr., and John F. Kennedy spoke out! They were forced to use their own restrooms, which were filthy, they were forced into bad schools where they were told they were fools and recieved a poor education, and it goes on. All of these events have effected things within the African American community today, leaving the aftermath of the brutal storm of racial segragation, which is a never-ending cycle that is still ravaging through the world today, only less obvious. It has caused minorities such as blacks to get worse jobs than whites, usually minimum wage, which made it hard for African Americans to put food on the plates for their families, creating tension within their own households, and creating frustration for fathers. Their lack of proper education forced them into these jobs, where they worked so hard, yet it wasn't enough. Therefore, many blacks resorted to stealing, which landed many of them into jail and created more oppresion, causing some to resort to violence. This left some with a bad reputation and a crime record, making it even harder to find a decent job and live a decent life. This is how whites suppressed blacks, and it's a never ending cycle. Because of this, black children have learned from this and followed their parents' examples, creating a history of crime from generation to generation. This is what they learn. And some of them, if not most of them are taught to stop at nothing to get what they want! And it also has become "cool" and their way of life. Crime often then becomes glorified in ghettos and so kids get influenced by what they see their fathers and brothers do, so it gets passed on. This is also why we see so much of it in the music of today, such as; rap and hip-hop, also because the music industry is controlled by the "illuminati" and part of their agenda is to degenerate the youth and promote violence and corruption amongst them. And it is also somewhat true that desperate times call for desperate measures, which leads to the mentality that desperate crimes get you precious treasures. I say this not to justify African American criminals, nor to condemn caucasians, but to explain cause and affect and that people from both sides of the issue are to blame! The main place that some "minorities" have gone wrong is by not calling out to God in their distress or following the example of one of their most prominent figures; Martin Luther King Jr. who did preach the Gospel! They should have done as the Israelites did by calling out to God and they should have looked to figures like MLK as the Israelites looked to Moses. If they had done this, even though I'm sure some of them did, but if they unanimously decided to seek the Lord wholeheartedly and to perservere with him through trials without relying upon their own strength to fight oppression, I'm sure he would have delivered them from their oppression as he did the Israelites and also provided for them in their walk with God unto the promised land as he did the Israelites. But instead, many of them rebelled, against man and God, relied upon their own strength to fight against oppression, allowed their hardships to get the best of them, and some of them retaliated with violence unto today. Which is why we have problems on both ends even today. So yes, I agree with you that there are problems amongst African Americans just as well as whites, but no on on either end is innocent.

There indeed is a hidden agneda against "minorities" and I am very well aware of it. Sadly, it looks like because of the mob mentality that has been taught amongst minorities to harden their hearts which they seemed to have learned from their own oppressors are going to lead them to a hard place. In other words, they seemed to have learned too much from their oppressors and not enough from their mothers. Ya catch my drift? They have become much like their oppressors in that they have become hard at heart and violent, even killing their own! But the truth is that whites are not necessarily any better than balcks, or vice versa. There are still many white supremisists out there. There are guilty people on both sides of the spectrum. The truth is; people are people and it makes no difference what color of skin they are in, there will be evil people in any shade of flesh. As I say; It's not the color of the skin, but it's the color of the soul within. It's not wrong to be white, and it's not wrong to be black, it's wrong to reject and despise the Lord who can free and save you! If only the oppressed had whole heartedly sought the Lord, it wouldn't have to be the way it is today.

 

[Eagle27]

I disagree, I think, actually I know, that this man has already come, and for the most part has been revealed, but not outwardly publicized, for he hides in the shadows of corruption. But I myself have seen him with my own two eyes believe it or not, and I am persecuted by him and his puppets/zombie followers on a daily basis. In fact, he is the reason I'm asking this question in the first place, because to some people, even to myself, he has claimed to be Lucifer himself in the flesh, probably to intimidate people? But at first, I didn't quite believe this because it doesn't go hand in hand with the scripture, but he does have an unusual kind of captivating beuty to him, just as many know Lucifer to have been one of the most physically beautiful angels in heaven. This man seduces many to lust with his beauty alone.

I see you're from California...I hear there are plenty of rehab places for those who use drugs.

And if you don't use drugs, you need to get other help, for you may have other mental issues.

Read the Scriptures, and get rid of the books you are reading, and any shows you watch.

 

[dagelos]

To an extent I agree with you. The only true union should be in Christ, for otherwise there will always be unrest within peoples, plus Christ is their creator, and the Father through him, and he is the one that paid their price by dying for them (all peoples) on the cross, therefore there should only be true unity and equality in Christ alone, for as it is written; 'There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.' -Galatians 3:28. However, at the same time, I do not justify racial schism, for it is a problem, but that's why I do advocate the name of the Lord to be the solution! Racial segragation, along with other problems in the world, (war, crime, sexual immorality, and just sin in general) are all problems within the world that must be done away with eventually.

And yes, there are problems within the African American community just as there is everywhere else. Just as many whites mudered and tortured African Americans during the early settelment period in America, amny African Americans thus retaliated by killing whites, which is wrong just as is fighting fire with fire, hence why Jesus called us to love our enemies. And unfortunately, many Afrcian Americans rejected this Jesus, as did many other peoples, which resulted in the degeneration of many "minorities" such as them and the crime rate in ghettos. Not to say that all of them did, for I'm sure there have been plenty of African Americans throughout history that have truly been saved and are on their way to true freedom. And today, many Afrcian Americans discriminate against their own people and voluntarily fall slaves to the white supremisist and the racist system. They do exactly what Martin Luther King Jr. spoke against; he said; "Those who passively accept evil are just as guilty as those who perpetrate it." And this is so true, but apparently his words fell upon deaf ears within his own black community. Blacks are killing their own brothers and sisters for dough, materials, etc. etc. It's tragic and foolish. I've also found an overwhelming ammount of blacks handing themselves over to mind control and worship the Antichrist himself! But keep in mind the condition that many Afrcian Americans have had to live in. Think of the way so many of them were oppressed and impoverished during the early settlement times all the way up till the early 1960's, until people like Harriet Truman, Rosa Parks, Martin Luther King Jr., and John F. Kennedy spoke out! They were forced to use their own restrooms, which were filthy, they were forced into bad schools where they were told they were fools and recieved a poor education, and it goes on. All of these events have effected things within the African American community today, leaving the aftermath of the brutal storm of racial segragation, which is a never-ending cycle that is still ravaging through the world today, only less obvious. It has caused minorities such as blacks to get worse jobs than whites, usually minimum wage, which made it hard for African Americans to put food on the plates for their families, creating tension within their own households, and creating frustration for fathers. Their lack of proper education forced them into these jobs, where they worked so hard, yet it wasn't enough. Therefore, many blacks resorted to stealing, which landed many of them into jail and created more oppresion, causing some to resort to violence. This left some with a bad reputation and a crime record, making it even harder to find a decent job and live a decent life. This is how whites suppressed blacks, and it's a never ending cycle. Because of this, black children have learned from this and followed their parents' examples, creating a history of crime from generation to generation. This is what they learn. And some of them, if not most of them are taught to stop at nothing to get what they want! And it also has become "cool" and their way of life. Crime often then becomes glorified in ghettos and so kids get influenced by what they see their fathers and brothers do, so it gets passed on. This is also why we see so much of it in the music of today, such as; rap and hip-hop, also because the music industry is controlled by the "illuminati" and part of their agenda is to degenerate the youth and promote violence and corruption amongst them. And it is also somewhat true that desperate times call for desperate measures, which leads to the mentality that desperate crimes get you precious treasures. I say this not to justify African American criminals, nor to condemn caucasians, but to explain cause and affect and that people from both sides of the issue are to blame! The main place that some "minorities" have gone wrong is by not calling out to God in their distress or following the example of one of their most prominent figures; Martin Luther King Jr. who did preach the Gospel! They should have done as the Israelites did by calling out to God and they should have looked to figures like MLK as the Israelites looked to Moses. If they had done this, even though I'm sure some of them did, but if they unanimously decided to seek the Lord wholeheartedly and to perservere with him through trials without relying upon their own strength to fight oppression, I'm sure he would have delivered them from their oppression as he did the Israelites and also provided for them in their walk with God unto the promised land as he did the Israelites. But instead, many of them rebelled, against man and God, relied upon their own strength to fight against oppression, allowed their hardships to get the best of them, and some of them retaliated with violence unto today. Which is why we have problems on both ends even today. So yes, I agree with you that there are problems amongst African Americans just as well as whites, but no on on either end is innocent.

There indeed is a hidden agneda against "minorities" and I am very well aware of it. Sadly, it looks like because of the mob mentality that has been taught amongst minorities to harden their hearts which they seemed to have learned from their own oppressors are going to lead them to a hard place. In other words, they seemed to have learned too much from their oppressors and not enough from their mothers. Ya catch my drift? They have become much like their oppressors in that they have become hard at heart and violent, even killing their own! But the truth is that whites are not necessarily any better than balcks, or vice versa. There are still many white supremisists out there. There are guilty people on both sides of the spectrum. The truth is; people are people and it makes no difference what color of skin they are in, there will be evil people in any shade of flesh. As I say; It's not the color of the skin, but it's the color of the soul within. It's not wrong to be white, and it's not wrong to be black, it's wrong to reject and despise the Lord who can free and save you! If only the oppressed had whole heartedly sought the Lord, it wouldn't have to be the way it is today.

You shouldn't look sadly on the blacks.
They are not innocent.
Why do blacks attack whites in crime? Why do they prefer white women?

Google...Whites & Blacks 100 FACTS (and one Lie)

You can't say that is because blacks have done poorly?

Or look at the situation in South Africa?
Are we to say it is because Whites have done blacks poorly? If so why are there upwards to thousands of whites in South Africa murdered yet no word of this on the news?
Google - South Africa Project.
http://www.southafricaproject.info/ - South Africa Project

Whites have given the blacks everything,in turn they throw it down the drain.


The beauty of the White European is universally recognized over the blacks which may cause problems as people do not like that.


As for Martin Luther King Jr...

MARTIN LUTHER KING

FACT #75-77: On Jan. 31, 1977, Martin Luther King's FBI records weresealed by court order until the year 2027 because, as his wife said, "itsrelease would destroy his reputation" These records are rumored tocontain instances of bizarre sexual perversion and homosexuality, and proofthat King was under the direct orders of Soviet spies and financed by theCommunist Party.

FACT #78: The Wall Street Journal (Nov.9, 1990) disclosed that StanfordUniversity editors of The Papers of Martin Luther King Jr. have long knownthat King was guilty of plagiarism in his l955 Boston University doctoralthesis, having lifted significant portions from the works of other writersand graduate students.

FACT #79: Martin Luther King frequently enjoyed prostitutes and paidfor them with his church's money. Still, congress has voted to make King'sbirthday a national holiday, in most places replacing Columbus Day or Washington'sBirthday as an official observance.

FACT #80: Almost every state in the union has a King holiday, andalmost every city has a King Boulevard or King Civic Center. Yet the electoralevidence suggests that Americans will almost always vote down honors forKing when given a chance. (41)

Rap/Hip Hop is racist,google racist rap lyrics.....

Each races is different

You said '' many Afrcian Americans discriminate against their own people and voluntarily fall slaves to the white supremisist and the racist system.''

How so?
White Supremacist do not discriminate without a reason.There are facts and differences between the races that make them different as well as the fact that there are black supremacist and Jewish supremacists,so why do you say White Supremacists?

I gather you have been trained to think that somehow whites have done the blacks bad or blacks have done poorly for some reason or other.
Do not disregard the facts and evidence.I gather people may say racist! racist! yet if these things go on,how would they be racist or how would they be White Supremacist?
I have rough idea that anyone reading this thread WILL cry oh, you're a racist!
Which means they prefer TV over facts,ignorance over facts etc etc

 

[apocolypticremedy999]

I see you're from California...I hear there are plenty of rehab places for those who use drugs.

And if you don't use drugs, you need to get other help, for you may have other mental issues.

Read the Scriptures, and get rid of the books you are reading, and any shows you watch.

I'm taking that as an insult. Christians should not assume negative things about others, such as them using drugs. I don't use drugs, I don't have mental issues as some people claim that I have, I don't read any book besides the Bible and an occasional comic book, and I rarely ever watch TV. Where do you get off assuming that I'm mentally insane? That is not Christ speaking through you, that's for sure! And these are things that people of the world commonly say to people of God who know the truth, often to conceal the truth. Things like, "You must be crazy!" or "you're on something!" These things people say about people who reveal the truth that it might not become believable. It's the reason I was diagnosed with schizophrenia and psychosis, which I do not have! But even if I did, as a Christian, you don't take such an inconsiderate approach to someone, it could hurt someone's feelings. I know a lot of mentally ill people, and these are things you don't say to them, and you should especially know this if you're a Christian. But anyways, I've heard all of this before, I've been called freak and whatnot, and all it is is a worldly approach of hiding the truth and making people who reveal it look bad or crazy so that poeple won't listen to them or believe anything they say.

What in my post would lead you to think something like that about me anyways?

 

[apocolypticremedy999]

You shouldn't look sadly on the blacks.
They are not innocent.
Why do blacks attack whites in crime? Why do they prefer white women?

Google...Whites & Blacks 100 FACTS (and one Lie)

Do I have to repeat myself? I never said blacks were innocent either, in fact, I said, and I quote (if ya would read);
"I say this not to justify African American criminals, nor to condemn caucasians, but to explain cause and affect and that people from both sides of the issue are to blame!....So yes, I agree with you that there are problems amongst African Americans just as well as whites, but no on on either end is innocent."

I don't need to feed on a bunch of propagnada to know this. No one today is innocent anyways.

You can't say that is because blacks have done poorly?

Or look at the situation in South Africa?
Are we to say it is because Whites have done blacks poorly? If so why are there upwards to thousands of whites in South Africa murdered yet no word of this on the news?
Google - South Africa Project.
The South Africa Project - South Africa Project

Whites have given the blacks everything, in turn they throw it down the drain.

I'm sorry, but what you're saying here is prejudice and you are generalizing peoples. Maybe some blacks have done poorly, but not all. And at the same time, maybe some whites have been generous to Afrcian Americans, but not all. In fact, if you look at history, you'll find that there have been many whites who have done the exact opposite, legislating and enforcing laws to suppress and impoverish African Americans, singling them out, giving them poor education and poor jobs, etc. etc. And some of this still goes on today, usually underneath the surface, and the after-math of this is still evident today. I do believe however, that God has blessed them and some of them have taken these blessings for granted. But my point is that people on both sides of the spectrum are to blame.

The beauty of the White European is universally recognized over the blacks which may cause problems as people do not like that.

I'm not quite sure I know what you mean by this, but if we're talking about something so vain as physical appearance, I'd like to say that I don't believe whites are any more beautiful than blacks, because there are ugly and beutiful people in every race. In fact, I know a very beautiful young Afrcian American woman who graces me with her appearance every week, and how I do admire her beauty, even though it means very little to me as I don't think much about outward appearance, for this is something I was instructed by the Lord to look beyond and something Christians are not supposed to do. ('Judge not by mere appearance, but make righteous judgment. -John 7:24, 'For we commend not ourselves again unto you, but give you occasion to glory on our behalf, that ye may have somewhat to answer them which glory in appearance, and not in heart.' -2 Corinthians 5:12) And believe me, she's not the only one. But honestly, some people and outward appearance, it's such a waste of time sometimes.

As for Martin Luther King Jr...

MARTIN LUTHER KING

FACT #75-77: On Jan. 31, 1977, Martin Luther King's FBI records weresealed by court order until the year 2027 because, as his wife said, "itsrelease would destroy his reputation" These records are rumored tocontain instances of bizarre sexual perversion and homosexuality, and proofthat King was under the direct orders of Soviet spies and financed by theCommunist Party.

FACT #78: The Wall Street Journal (Nov.9, 1990) disclosed that StanfordUniversity editors of The Papers of Martin Luther King Jr. have long knownthat King was guilty of plagiarism in his l955 Boston University doctoralthesis, having lifted significant portions from the works of other writersand graduate students.

FACT #79: Martin Luther King frequently enjoyed prostitutes and paidfor them with his church's money. Still, congress has voted to make King'sbirthday a national holiday, in most places replacing Columbus Day or Washington'sBirthday as an official observance.

FACT #80: Almost every state in the union has a King holiday, andalmost every city has a King Boulevard or King Civic Center. Yet the electoralevidence suggests that Americans will almost always vote down honors forKing when given a chance. (41)

How do you know that these aren't things that are only indended to make him look bad? For there are many instances throughout history, esp. within the balck community where people, white people in particular (not to blame anyone according to their race), tried so hard to make them look bad in attempts of destroying their cause. This even happened to Christ himself, as you ought to know. The Pharisees often watched and waited for him to make a wrong move to taint his image, such as when he ate with sinners. But, even if he really did do these things, his message was almost always dead accurate, and he said many wise things. Like the Bible says, some people preach the word for strife and vain glory, while others preach it from the heart and for the sake of others, but either way the Word of God remains pure and it is being taught. I don't know if he was a good or bad person at heart, but he did and said some good things. His reputation can't even hurt the truth, which he preached.

Rap/Hip Hop is racist,google racist rap lyrics.....

This is true, esp. considering the fact that the n word is so commonly and loosely used as a slang term, but I have often suspected that this is something that was conditioned by the record companies/music industry. I wonder if these record companies signed some of these rap artists on the condition that they use the n word for the sake of promoting racism amongst the youth and minorities too. But not only the n word, but violence within their own brotherhood. I do believe that there is much racism within the music industry and that many record companies are controlled.

You said '' many Afrcian Americans discriminate against their own people and voluntarily fall slaves to the white supremisist and the racist system.''

How so?
White Supremacist do not discriminate without a reason.There are facts and differences between the races that make them different as well as the fact that there are black supremacist and Jewish supremacists,so why do you say White Supremacists?

I gather you have been trained to think that somehow whites have done the blacks bad or blacks have done poorly for some reason or other.
Do not disregard the facts and evidence.I gather people may say racist! racist! yet if these things go on,how would they be racist or how would they be White Supremacist?
I have rough idea that anyone reading this thread WILL cry oh, you're a racist!
Which means they prefer TV over facts,ignorance over facts etc etc

I see it every day. I've seen with my own eyes many African Americans who willingly submit to racist white figures often for the sake of betraying their own people, and sometimes out of fear, sometimes out of greed and downright indifference. Believe me, there are many white supremacists who discriminate for no good reason, just as many people of the world hate Christ and his followers without good reason. There are many white people who think that they are pure simply because the shade of the color of their skin is light and therefore think they are better than people with dark skin and look down on them as if they are filthy and/or dirty and of the "darkness". There are also a lot of whites who are brainwashed through the media, education, and the misinformation of their own parents, I was one of these people for a time, even though I'm not 100% white, but my parents tought me lies about African Americans at an early age, telling me things like, "Stay away from those children," or "They speak in their different language because of this and that," and "they are criminals," etc. etc. all the while calling themselves Christians. It wasn't until I was introduced to punk rock, the truth about God, and interacted with some African Americans that I called freinds that I saw things more clearly. I can understand that some parents may worry about their kids getting in trouble or safe, but it doesn't justify shoving racist ideals down their throughts. I was very upset with my parents for a long time for this. I can also understand circumstances like if a father had a young daughter who was going to school and she frequently walked. Let's say one day she walks through a rough neighborhood and gets shot in the middle of a gang fight and dies. In fact, something similar happened to a young boy because of a gang fight 2Pac got in. I can understand why this father might start having racist thoughts, but it doesn't make it right. Just as I understand why some African Americans hate or hated white people because of the way they were poorly treated by whites in the early 1900's, but it still doesn't make it right either. This is why we are told to love our enemies and turn the other cheek rather than to retaliate with violence, but to let the Lord have vengeance. I also understand that there are black and jewish supremacists who do the same thing, and I don't agree with them either, but that's not necessarily the issue I'm talking about here.

Anyways, let's not discuss this any further, lest an admin. come and put us in line. This is off topic and it's getting out of hand.

 

[dagelos]

Do I have to repeat myself? I never said blacks were innocent either, in fact, I said, and I quote (if ya would read);
"I say this not to justify African American criminals, nor to condemn caucasians, but to explain cause and affect and that people from both sides of the issue are to blame!....So yes, I agree with you that there are problems amongst African Americans just as well as whites, but no on on either end is innocent."

I don't need to feed on a bunch of propagnada to know this. No one today is innocent anyways.




I'm sorry, but what you're saying here is prejudice and you are generalizing peoples. Maybe some blacks have done poorly, but not all. And at the same time, maybe some whites have been generous to Afrcian Americans, but not all. In fact, if you look at history, you'll find that there have been many whites who have done the exact opposite, legislating and enforcing laws to suppress and impoverish African Americans, singling them out, giving them poor education and poor jobs, etc. etc. And some of this still goes on today, usually underneath the surface, and the after-math of this is still evident today. I do believe however, that God has blessed them and some of them have taken these blessings for granted. But my point is that people on both sides of the spectrum are to blame.




I'm not quite sure I know what you mean by this, but if we're talking about something so vain as physical appearance, I'd like to say that I don't believe whites are any more beautiful than blacks, because there are ugly and beutiful people in every race. In fact, I know a very beautiful young Afrcian American woman who graces me with her appearance every week, and how I do admire her beauty, even though it means very little to me as I don't think much about outward appearance, for this is something I was instructed by the Lord to look beyond and something Christians are not supposed to do. ('Judge not by mere appearance, but make righteous judgment. -John 7:24, 'For we commend not ourselves again unto you, but give you occasion to glory on our behalf, that ye may have somewhat to answer them which glory in appearance, and not in heart.' -2 Corinthians 5:12) And believe me, she's not the only one. But honestly, some people and outward appearance, it's such a waste of time sometimes.



How do you know that these aren't things that are only indended to make him look bad? For there are many instances throughout history, esp. within the balck community where people, white people in particular (not to blame anyone according to their race), tried so hard to make them look bad in attempts of destroying their cause. This even happened to Christ himself, as you ought to know. The Pharisees often watched and waited for him to make a wrong move to taint his image, such as when he ate with sinners. But, even if he really did do these things, his message was almost always dead accurate, and he said many wise things. Like the Bible says, some people preach the word for strife and vain glory, while others preach it from the heart and for the sake of others, but either way the Word of God remains pure and it is being taught. I don't know if he was a good or bad person at heart, but he did and said some good things. His reputation can't even hurt the truth, which he preached.




This is true, esp. considering the fact that the n word is so commonly and loosely used as a slang term, but I have often suspected that this is something that was conditioned by the record companies/music industry. I wonder if these record companies signed some of these rap artists on the condition that they use the n word for the sake of promoting racism amongst the youth and minorities too. But not only the n word, but violence within their own brotherhood. I do believe that there is much racism within the music industry and that many record companies are controlled.





I see it every day. I've seen with my own eyes many African Americans who willingly submit to racist white figures often for the sake of betraying their own people, and sometimes out of fear, sometimes out of greed and downright indifference. Believe me, there are many white supremacists who discriminate for no good reason, just as many people of the world hate Christ and his followers without good reason. There are many white people who think that they are pure simply because the shade of the color of their skin is light and therefore think they are better than people with dark skin and look down on them as if they are filthy and/or dirty and of the "darkness". There are also a lot of whites who are brainwashed through the media, education, and the misinformation of their own parents, I was one of these people for a time, even though I'm not 100% white, but my parents tought me lies about African Americans at an early age, telling me things like, "Stay away from those children," or "They speak in their different language because of this and that," and "they are criminals," etc. etc. all the while calling themselves Christians. It wasn't until I was introduced to punk rock, the truth about God, and interacted with some African Americans that I called freinds that I saw things more clearly. I can understand that some parents may worry about their kids getting in trouble or safe, but it doesn't justify shoving racist ideals down their throughts. I was very upset with my parents for a long time for this. I can also understand circumstances like if a father had a young daughter who was going to school and she frequently walked. Let's say one day she walks through a rough neighborhood and gets shot in the middle of a gang fight and dies. In fact, something similar happened to a young boy because of a gang fight 2Pac got in. I can understand why this father might start having racist thoughts, but it doesn't make it right. Just as I understand why some African Americans hate or hated white people because of the way they were poorly treated by whites in the early 1900's, but it still doesn't make it right either. This is why we are told to love our enemies and turn the other cheek rather than to retaliate with violence, but to let the Lord have vengeance. I also understand that there are black and jewish supremacists who do the same thing, and I don't agree with them either, but that's not necessarily the issue I'm talking about here.

Anyways, let's not discuss this any further, lest an admin. come and put us in line. This is off topic and it's getting out of hand.

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[Ronald]

The beast for the most part is not a group of Islamic nations, but America itself is very much involved, along with the rich elite of the world such as; the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds.

I disagree. However, you are very right about the Rothchild's family control and influence in the world. They put George Soros where he is today and he supported Obama. There are a lot of conspiracy theories but the underlying truth of it all is spiritual warfare. The Rothchilds are not orchestrating the Great Tribulation period now are they. They are pawns in Satan's schemes. There is corruption throughout the world and we are paying for our greed. I just read who the richest man was is who beat Bill Gates this year, worth 67 billion? But I heard the Rothchild fortune, not mentioned of course, is hundreds of times that.
Satan obviously has many schemes to corrupt, seek out and destroy, but on no other platform has he clearly attacked the Jews and Christians for hundreds of years equal to the Islamic movement. Satan is using many false religions and philosphies and the rich as well, but I think we are about to witness a Middle East war that may begin the GT, The countries involved are clearly Islamic. Sure Russia and China are allies with Iran and Syria because they have investments. But we won't attack Israel. As much as some people think that Obama is the Antichrist, he just approved military support, missiles, bunkerbusters, sent to Israel for the purpose of a near future pre-emptive attack. So, even though he is begging them not to, he will go against Iran and ultimately support Israel. see Debka.com
God is sovereign though. Justice and judgement is coming.

 

[apocolypticremedy999]

I disagree. However, you are very right about the Rothchild's family control and influence in the world. They put George Soros where he is today and he supported Obama. There are a lot of conspiracy theories but the underlying truth of it all is spiritual warfare. The Rothchilds are not orchestrating the Great Tribulation period now are they. They are pawns in Satan's schemes. There is corruption throughout the world and we are paying for our greed. I just read who the richest man was is who beat Bill Gates this year, worth 67 billion? But I heard the Rothchild fortune, not mentioned of course, is hundreds of times that.
Satan obviously has many schemes to corrupt, seek out and destroy, but on no other platform has he clearly attacked the Jews and Christians for hundreds of years equal to the Islamic movement. Satan is using many false religions and philosphies and the rich as well, but I think we are about to witness a Middle East war that may begin the GT, The countries involved are clearly Islamic. Sure Russia and China are allies with Iran and Syria because they have investments. But we won't attack Israel. As much as some people think that Obama is the Antichrist, he just approved military support, missiles, bunkerbusters, sent to Israel for the purpose of a near future pre-emptive attack. So, even though he is begging them not to, he will go against Iran and ultimately support Israel. see Debka.com
God is sovereign though. Justice and judgement is coming.

I think you're right on a lot of things, and no, I don't believe that Obama is the antichrist either, like alot of people do, however I do belive that he and many other figures in our US government are his puppets in place to put him in power. I do believe that he is in this country, though he has power and influence around the world already, but he is working behind the scenes not as a man in power but as a seemingly common man living a life that most common men do in disguise.

 

[LLWHA]

Lucifer's daughter. The face of evil and the proof is around her neck.
Baroness Philippine Mathilde Camille de Rothschild Wearing Satanic Neck Pieces
http://www.henrymakow.com/baroness_philippine_mathilde_c.html

These people are not playing folks and they want you all dead.

4:3 And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in The Day that I shall do [this], saith the "I AM" Lord of hosts.
4:4 Remember ye and return to The Law of Moses My servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, [with] the Statutes and Judgments.

Its you or them. Tired of being slaves to their funny money and usury scams, your family, friends and country men dieing in their non stop wars for profit and fun?

If you fight them God will destroy them.