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Federal standards for education as well as money need to go towards education one way or another because not everyone can afford elementary education. It was pretty involved back in the days people reminisce about when they things like "taking their country back", and it wasn't demonized by politicians looking to funnel money into private contractors pockets in exchange for kickbacks and vast amounts of campaign contributionsExcept that he doesn't what to do away with public schools altogether. Why is it so many seem to have such a hard time distinguishing from FEDERAL government involvement in something and all government involvement in something? He's calling for an end to, or a very drastic reduction in FEDERAL government control and involvement in public education.
what does it matter if the federal government is in charge of it? How would state control be better?
No they don't. I think our schools can do better, but I don't think they're doing amiserable job.
29. “I think we should send a very clear message that if you are scientist from Russia or North Korea or from Iran, and you are going to work on a nuclear program to develop a nuclear bomb for Iran, you are not safe.” ~Rick Santorum, stating his intentions to kill Russian, North Korean, and Iranian citizens which would be an act of war.
30. “I would be saying to the Iranians, you either open those facilities, begin to dismantle them and make them available to inspectors or we will degrade those facilities though air strikes. And make it very public that we are doing that. Iran would not get a nuclear weapon under my watch.” ~Rick Santorum, threatening war with Iran.
Because at a state level an individual or group of individuals without a huge organization and huge financial backing can actually have an influence on how things are done. You know parents actually having an effect on how their own kids are actually taught.
When you've got students in a college science lab class who can't do basic algebra, solving for a single variable, yes they are doing a miserable job. When you've got kids graduating high school who can't read at a 6th grade level, yes they are doing a miserable job.
How does that improve the quality of education? What does it matter if parents are influencing what their kids are taught? why does everyone automatically assume parents know whats best for their kids when its blatantly obvious that parents make horrible decisions for their children everyday?
EXACTLY my point. The schools are passing students through when they are plainly not meeting the requirements. Any guess as to why? Because if too many fail, the federal government steps in and takes money away.If a college student can't do basic algebra, then how did they even get to that level? In my highschool you had to pass algebra just to move up a grade. If a kid can't read at a 6th grade level, why were they passed on up to 7th if they couldn't complete the requirements for the preceding grade?
I am 100% behind abolishing the department of education and eliminating every federal involvement in public education. The federal government has no business - and certainly no constitutional authority - for being involved in this nation's public schools. None.
Why does everyone assume that the government knows what's best when it's blatantly obvious that the government as a whole and the individuals involved make horrible decisions every day?
EXACTLY my point. The schools are passing students through when they are plainly not meeting the requirements. Any guess as to why? Because if too many fail, the federal government steps in and takes money away.
Parents don't have groups of educators and advisors from all fields of study to give them information on what would be better in terms of what things a child might learn best and in what order.Why does everyone assume that the government knows what's best when it's blatantly obvious that the government as a whole and the individuals involved make horrible decisions every day?
...which is why I made the distinction between states and the federal government.What would it be if it were ran by state tax dollars only? It would still be public.
< Heavy Sigh > You know, anyone who gives this argument the slightest thought would realize it's use is reason sufficient for its invalidity inasmuch as any appeal to it amounts to an "unlimited commission to exercise every power which may be alleged to be necessary for the common defense or general welfare" (Federalist 41). And you've just proven your argument invalid on that basis.Except for the general welfare clause that says the federal government can levy moneys for the general welfare of the country. Education would be considered a factor of the country's general welfare.
Well, so what if a city or county or state "suddenly decides" to teach that creationism is scientific? First, I doubt such a decision would be "sudden" but regardless, what business is that of yours or mine, or anyone else's who doesn't live in that city, or county, or state? It's NONE of your business or mine, which is PRECISELY why the federal government has no jurisdiction in these matters.The problem with that is a city or county can suddenly decide that creationism is scientific. Sure, the federal government can to, but, well, won't.
I don't think I'm over exaggerating one bit. And yes, they did take away the kid's lunch - sheesh! And it's irrelevant how much they charged the kid's parents - the whole point is that THEY DID. Good grief; do you not see the importance of that?Oh, that article. Yeah, the school didn't take away the kid's lunch, the school simply supplimented another lunch to complete nutrition standards and then charged the parents a buck and some change. How does this at all warrant a comparison to nazis? Giving the kid some food and charging less than what some toll booths charge is on keel with trying to take over europe, genocide of the jews and chemical warfare? I think you're over exagerrating.
Yes. However your premise is fatally flawed. Do you really think a state would do that? C'mon. Besides, again, it's none of your business or mine what another state, or county, or city decides if we don't live there.So, if a state wanted to get rid of the laws that say children must be educated, they should be allowed to do that, regardless of the detriment it would cause?
Well again with the "sudden" decisions. And again, you just cited the proper recourse a civilized society can, and will take to determine what is in their best interest, and that by their own definition, not by some "outsider's" definition of what constitutes their best interest.The problem with locally ran education is within the decided curiculumn; local officials can suddenly decide what is not scientific to be apart of the curiculumn. Thats just one of my worries. Here in Kansas some years back, the state board of education declared it would not teach evolution. Luckily enough people voted out those folks in the next election. Yet, not every state, county or city can be as lucky.
Kill the DoE and return power to the states. I know there'd be less indoctrination but I think the higher test sccores would be worth it. Don't you?
Because government is the poorly-controlled accumulation of the decisions of uninvolved individuals.Why does everyone assume that the government knows what's best when it's blatantly obvious that the government as a whole and the individuals involved make horrible decisions every day?
However, the biggest problem in our schools, IMO, is lack of parental involvement.
Rick Santorum Wants to End State Public Education - YouTubeReally? When exactly did Rick Santorum "call for the end of public education"? Can you tell me the date, time, and location at which Rick Santourm "called for the end of public education"? Better yet, can you post a video of Rick Santorum "calling for the end of public education"? And if not, is there any reason why I shouldn't classify your claim as a blatant lie?
If you like the rise of healthcare costs under the private sector, you'll love what will happen when they get total control of education in America.How Corporations Have Mastered the Art of Not Paying Their Fair Share of Taxes
If they paid taxes proportionate to the benefits they get from government, US citizens would finally get the tax break they so desperately seek.
February 21, 2011
Corporate profits financed politicians' campaigns and lobbies to make sure that income tax receipts from individuals rose faster than those from corporations and that tax cuts were larger for corporations than for individuals. By the 1980s, individual income taxes regularly yielded four times more than taxes on corporations' profits.
Since the second world war, corporations have shifted much of the federal tax burden from themselves to the public – and especially onto the middle-income members of the public. No wonder a tax "revolt" developed, yet it did not push to stop or reverse that shift. Corporations had focused public anger elsewhere, against government expenditures as "wasteful" and against public employees as inefficient.
http://www.alternet.org/economy/149..._art_of_not_paying_their_fair_share_of_taxes/
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