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go ahead and get ready to blast me but my thoughts are as follows:

It really doesnt matter WHAT we THINK. It matters what the Word SAYS. God's Word says, do not lie.

No matter how you want to put it-if you tell your kids there is a Santa Claus that brings presents, you are lying to your kids. After they find out you lie to them, try convincing them that Christ is real-see how that goes over in their hearts.

I think that the average person (child) could find it easier to believe that a fat guy brings them presents vs. the TRUE story of the virgin birth, life, ressurrection and salvation of a Savior - The Son of God. If they find you lie about the former, they will not trust you about the latter (no matter what their lips say, their heart will say something else). You will be planting a seed of deceit.
 
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Godschosengirl said:
go ahead and get ready to blast me but my thoughts are as follows:

It really doesnt matter WHAT we THINK. It matters what the Word SAYS. God's Word says, do not lie.

Ok.....

Isn't it funny how we wise parents can be so stupid and hypocritical. One the one hand standing on our little soapbox proclaiming, "do not lie", and all the while telling our kids just how beautiful their paintings or drawing are!

Let's be really honest - pragmatically speaking, all toddler kids draw and paint bad. In fact, they're awful and ugly. They may be cute, but they're far from beautiful. All they are are chicken scratches or wild brush strokes. But of course, they're our kids and we love them so much. So we lie and tell them how beautiful they're paintings or other art from pre-school are, and stick them on our fridges.

What's the difference with Santa then? Either we do or we don't, but we can't pick and choose what's lying and what's not, what's ok and what's not ok. So unless we're absolutely consistent in this regard, let's get off our soapbox and stop picking on Santa.
 
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I dont know about you, but MY kids pictures ARE beautiful to me. I am sure though, that is because I am their mom.

And yes, I am consistant with telling them the truth.

If someone has a Scripture reference to where God says it's ok to lie in certain instances, please enlighten me. I must have missed that one.

I guess all this fuss depends on how you view God's Word. If you dont take it literal and dont think you are to be obedient to It, you will probably think lying about satan (ooops..i mean santa) is no big deal. I can see that viewpoint. But to those who take God's Word and their children's lives seriously (and im sure some in the world would say TOO seriously) and know all these "little" things are really "big" things, those people will have a different viewpoint.

Not here to argue, just trying to put out another viewpoint.

But I guess i am just being "stupid" as Andry says. Sometimes when we get defensive and start calling others names when they state an opinion, maybe we should ask ourselves why we are reacting that way. Maybe it's the Holy Spirit's conviction about the issue...I dont know.
 
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