I'm talking about a full, 100%, marriage. Save civil unions for another thread. Also don't worry about if it's federal or state, just focus on the issue of gays being married, who cares where it is.
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What if I want gay marriages to be constrained to civil unions from the secular standpoint, but then again that's what I'd prefer for heterosexual marriages as well?
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Delete this post any mods who see it. It wasn't related to the OP in any sense... my mistake.
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Well marriage is just a legal contract in the eyes of the government. The whole church thing is just a ceremony.
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My actual standpoint on the matter? I personally think the government should refuse to hand out any more marriages. The government should take them from the domain of the government, and release them to other organizations. The government should offer a "civil union" with similiar legal function to a marriage that is available to all. Marriage on the other hand would become the sole domain of the Church, where it belongs.
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Whichever organizations choose to adminsister the sacrament. There should be no government regulation over this, and any organizations that wish to administer it should be allowed to. As a Christian, if I believe that marriage is ordained by God, then I can look at all those people who get married by some organization akin to the ACLU, and knowing that they aren't married by God, I never have to personally believe them married.Mr.Pious said:
Marriage would become entirely a sacrement, and would have no legal status.
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How about giving everybody "civil unions" giving everybody all the rights of what is currently a "marriage". The government stops ordaining marriage, and independent, non-governmental organizations such as churches would ordain marriage on their own.Columbia said:
In all truth, the government should not be recognizing the fact that a person is a man, a woman, or whether this marriage is traditional or non-traditional.
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Yes, it should. It is not my place to judge. Only God. It does not hurt me.
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Same sex marriage does happen and happens often
it is just not legally recognized in most states.
I have been married to Alex for eight and a half years now the only thing we lack is the marriage certificate and a rather long list of civil rights and legal protections marriage provides.
I have been married to Alex for eight and a half years now the only thing we lack is the marriage certificate and a rather long list of civil rights and legal protections marriage provides.
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Shalom, What part of abomination do you not understand?
Wayyiqra/leviticus 20:13 "If a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act;"
Wayyiqra/leviticus 20:13 "If a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act;"
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You forget to add the part "and they shall surely be put to death"living2przHim said:
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Yeah let them marry.
It's a personal matter and should be considered a free right.
I really like Pinatas approach.
Let the Government handle civil unions and make them 100% equal. Call them Civil Marriages if you like.
Let Churches or any other club issue marriages which are equal to civil union.
They can refuse whoever they like. It will be amusing but fair.
Groups like the Elks and the VFW can pick up a little extra cash marrying people.
Heck I'd let Walmart and Sams Club do it, you know you would get a good deal.
It's a personal matter and should be considered a free right.
I really like Pinatas approach.
Let the Government handle civil unions and make them 100% equal. Call them Civil Marriages if you like.
Let Churches or any other club issue marriages which are equal to civil union.
They can refuse whoever they like. It will be amusing but fair.
Groups like the Elks and the VFW can pick up a little extra cash marrying people.
Heck I'd let Walmart and Sams Club do it, you know you would get a good deal.
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Gay marriage should not be allowed legally, but I am only speaking from a spiritual point of view. I see no secular argument against it. I am not in favor of it, but see no way to prevent it as long as church and state are seperate. In my opinion being gay is just an obstacle that God would like people to overcome. I don't mean by becoming ungay, but it is a desire. we all have desires that we must supress. Some stronger than others, but as christians it is our job to supress these desires, They are put there by Satan, and God would want us to push them away. If we ask for his help he will give it. this ability to supress desires is part of what seperates us from the animals. God gave this gift to us.
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I would have to say Pinata has made the best post regarding the subject I have ever seen.
There are other religons who might disagree, why can't these religons or even sects of christianity be able to mary gay people?
There are other religons who might disagree, why can't these religons or even sects of christianity be able to mary gay people?
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