Salvation

[Eloy]

All Christians are invited to participate in this Christian Bible Study on "Salvation".

If you are a Christian who wants to learn more about the Word from God, and enrich your walk with the Lord, then I invite you to look up the following scriptures in your Bible, and post your answers to the questions. And I will post the correct answers afterward.


1. What does the name Iesous mean?

look up scriptures: Isaiah 12:2+ Matthew 1:21+ Acts 4:12.

Answer:
“Note, God my Yeshuah, I will trust and not fear: for Yh Yhwh, My Strength and Song, he also is become my salvation.”
“thereupon bear a son, and call the name of him Iesous: for Save he the people of him from the sins of them.”
“Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among people, whereby we must be saved.”

The name “Iesous” from the Hebrew “Yeshuah” means, “Salvation”.

2. How can we know who is saved and who is unsaved?

look up scriptures: Matthew 7:16-20+ John 13:35+ 15:20,21+ I John 3:9-11+ 4:7,8.

Answer:
“By their fruits you all will know them. Do people gather from thorns, a bunch of grapes? or from briars, figs? So every good tree yields good fruit, but a corrupt tree yields bad fruit. A good tree cannot yield bad fruit, neither a corrupt tree yield good fruit. Every tree not yielding good fruit, will be cut down and thrown into the fire. Therefore by their fruits you all will know them.”
“By this will all know that you all are my disciples, if you all have love one for another.”
“Remember the word that I said to you: The servant is not greater than his Lord, if they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep your’s also. But all these things will they do to you for my name’s sake, because they know not him that sent me.”
“Whosoever is born of God does not commit sin, for his seed remains in that one and that one cannot sin, because that one is born of God. In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever does not righteousness is not of God, neither that one that loves not their brother. For this is the message that you all heard from the beginning, That we should love one another.”
“Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loves is born of God, and knows God. The one that loves not knows not God; for God is love.”

We know them who are of our family, we of Christ, by the things that people do and say.

3. What happens to a person who gets saved?

look up scriptures: Ezekiel 36:26,27+ John 1:12,13+ 3:3+ II Corinthians 5:17+ Galatians 2:20+ 4:6.

Answer:
“and a new heart will I give you, and a new Spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. And I will put my Spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and you all will keep and do my judgments.”
“But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the children of God, to them that believe on his name: which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.”
“Iesous answered and said to him, Truly, truly, I say to you, Except a person be born again, that one cannot see the kingdom of God.”
“So that if anyone in Christ, a new Creation: the old things passed away; here, all things have become new.”
“I am crucified with Christ, nevertheless I live: yet not I, but Christ lives in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son from God, whom loved me, and gave himself for me.”
“And because you all are sons, God has sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.”

The saved person is transformed and given the new life from Christ.

4. Does God want anybody to go to hell?

look up scriptures: Ezekiel 18:30-32+ 33:11,20+ Hebrews 10:38,39+ II Peter 3:9.

Answer:
“Therefore I will judge you, O house of Israel, each one by your ways, says the Lord Yhwh. Repent, and turn from all your disobedience, so crookedness will not be to you for a block of stumbling. Throw away from you all your disobedience whereby all you have disobeyed in them, and make for yourselves a new heart and a new spirit, for why will you all die, O house of Israel? For I do not desire the death of the one who dies, says the Lord Yhwh, so turn and live you all.”
“Say to them, I live, says the Lord Yhwh, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from their way and live: turn you all, turn you all from your evil ways; for why will you all die, O house of Israel? Yet you all say, The way of the Lord is not right. O you all house of Israel, I will judge you every one after your ways.”
“Therefore the just by faith will live; and if draws back, the life of me has no pleasure." But we are not of them who draw back to perdition; but of them that believing to the saving of life.”
“The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some people count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any rightly perish, but that all should come to repentance.”

God does not want anyone to go to hell, but instead that all people would repent from their evil and become good, and thereby become blessed and partake of all of the goodness of God.

 

[Keachian]

This looks as directed as your last Bible study, you have answers that you want which may or may not be accurate to the full testimony of scripture.

 

[Eloy]

This looks as directed as your last Bible study, you have answers that you want which may or may not be accurate to the full testimony of scripture.

If you choose not to participate, refrain from posting replies of your NonBible study comments.

 

[Keachian]

If you choose not to participate, refrain from posting replies of your NonBible study comments.

Maybe it's just me but I find this "here is my theology, what can I find to back it up" method of study to be rather shallow, how about we walk through a chapter of the Bible concerning salvation, Romans 8?

 

[Eloy]

More Salvation Bible study.


Please look up the following questions about Salvation and post your answers. I will provide the correct answers a little later.


1. What must a person do to obtain salvation?

look up scriptures: Psalm 32:3-5+ I John 1:9+ Romans 10:13.
Answer:
“When I kept silence, wearied my bones through my groaning all the day. For by day and by night was heavy upon me your hand; my moisture was turned into the droughts of summer. Exalt. My sin I made you know, and my crookedness I have not covered. I said, I will confess up to my disobedience to Yhwh, and you took away the punishment of my sin. Exalt.”
“If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.”
“For whosoever will call upon the name of the Lord will be saved.”

A person must confess their sins.

2. What else must a person do to obtain salvation?

look up scriptures: Ezekiel 18:32+ 33:11+ Acts 3:19+ 17:30+ II Peter 3:9.
Answer:
“For I do not desire the death of the one who dies, says the Lord Yhwh, so turn and live you all.”
“Say to them, I live, says the Lord Yhwh, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from their way and live: turn you all, turn you all from your evil ways; for why will you all die, O house of Israel?”
“Repent you all therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing will come from the presence of the Lord.”
“And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commands all humans every where to righten.”
“The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some people count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any rightly perish, but that all should come to repentance.”

A person must repent from sin.

3. What else must a person do to obtain salvation?

look up scriptures: Luke 12:8,9+ John 3:14,15+ 14:1+ Acts 16:30,31+ Hebrews 3:10-12,19+ 4:1,2.
Answer:
“Also I say to you, Whosoever will confess me in front of persons, that one will the Son of man also confess in front of the angels of God: but that one that rejects me in front of persons will be rejected in front of the angels of God.”
“And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: that whosoever believes in him should not perish, but have eternal life.”
“Let not the heart of you be troubled, believe in whom God, even in me believe.”
“Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Obey up to the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved, and your household.”
“Therefore I was angry with that generation, and said, They do always go astray in heart; and they have not known my ways. So I swore in my wrath, They will not enter into my rest: Take heed, kin, else there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God. So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief. Let us therefore regard, else a promise remaining of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it. For onto us was the gospel preached, as well as onto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard.”

A person must believe; have faith and trust in Christ.

4. What else must a person do to obtain salvation?

look up scriptures: Mark 16:15,16+ Acts 2:38-41+ 10:47,48+ 16:15,32,33+ I Peter 3:20,21.
Answer:
“And he said to them, Go all you into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature; whom obeys and is baptized will be saved, but whom not obeys will be condemned.”
“Peter then said to them, Righten and be baptized each of you onto the Name Iesous Christ, in forgiveness of sins, and you all will receive the gift who’s Holy Spirit. For the promise is onto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, as many as the Lord our God will call. And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this crooked generation. Then they that gladly received his word were baptized, and the same day there were added about three thousand souls.”
“Then whom Peter answered, Can somebody not forbid of water, who’s these not to be baptized, who also received of his Holy Spirit even as we? And he commanded them to be baptized with Name of the Lord.”
“And when she was baptized, and her household, she urged, saying, If you all have judged me to be faithful to the Lord, come into my house, and abide. And she constrained us. And they spoke onto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house. And taking them in that which hour that night he washed off the stripes, and at once he and all those of him was baptized.
“which were disbelieving before, when once waited the God of longsuffering in days of Noah preparing the ark, in being few, this being eight lives were saved by water: then a before type, now baptism saves us, not a putting off of rank skin, but a good conscience up-praying up to God through resurrection of Iesous Christ.”

A person must get baptized onto the Name of Iesous Christ.

5. What else must a person do to obtain salvation?

look up scriptures: Matthew 5:43-48+ 7:12,21+ 21:28-31+ Luke 10:25-28+ 14:26,27,33-35+ James 2:8.
Answer:
“You all have heard that it has been said, You will love your neighbor, and hate your enemy. But I say to you, Care for the enemies of you, bless those cursing you, do well to those hating you, and pray over them that shame you and persecute you: how being the children of your Father, which is in heaven, who makes his sun to rise up on good and evil ones, and rains on just ones and unjust: for if you all care for those caring for you, what reward would you all have? What worldly ones do not this? And if you greet your kin only, what rightly do you all more? Nor this do not worldly ones? Therefore be you all perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.”
“Therefore all things whatsoever you all would that people should do to you, do you all even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets. Not all they that say to me, Lord, Lord, will enter into the kingdom of heaven; rather the one that does the commands of Father of me which is in heaven.”
“But what think you all? A man had two sons; and he came to the first, and said, Son, go work today in my vineyard. He answered and said, I will not: but afterward he repented and went. And the man came to the second, and said likewise. And he answered and said, I, Lord: but went not. Which of them two did the will of the father? They say to him, The first.”
“Then here a certain legalist stood up and tested him, saying, Preacher, what doing should I to inherit life eternal? And he said to him, What is written in the Law? How did you read? Then he answering said, You will love the Lord God of you from all the heart of you, and from all the life of you, and from all the might of you, and from all the conscience of you: also to the neighbor of you as yourself. Thereupon he said to him, Rightly you answered: this do, and you will live.”
“If any come to me, and hate not their father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brothers, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, that one cannot be my disciple. And whosoever does not bear their cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple. So likewise, whosoever that one be of you that forsakes not all that that one has, that one cannot be my disciple. Salt good: but if the salt have lost its savor, with what will it be seasoned? It is neither fit for the land, nor yet for the compost heap; people throw it out. The one that has ears to hear, let that one hear.”
“If you all fulfill the royal law according to the scripture: You will love your neighbor as yourself, you all do well.”

A person must obey wholly, whole-heartedly, and be a Doer the Golden Rule.

 

[Eloy]

Maybe it's just me but I find this "here is my theology, what can I find to back it up" method of study to be rather shallow, how about we walk through a chapter of the Bible concerning salvation, Romans 8?

It's just you, because no Christian is shallow. And my theology is not my theology, but God's theology which he holds before he created any human beings to teach his ways.

If you want to do a study on Romans 8, I want to do both 7 and 8, because according to the subject matters, chapter 7 should more correctly end at 8:17, and chapter 8 should start at 8:18. Amen? Amen.

 

[Radagast]

And my theology is not my theology, but God's theology

You seem to be assuming that you are right and other people are wrong.

I tend to agree with progmonk, who is well-versed in Scripture.

 

[The Lurker]

Your answers??? Yes, I agree with the others on this!

 

[Eloy]

The following Christian Bible study on Salvation is on Romans chapter 8, as requested by Progmonk.

All Christians are welcome to participate by looking up the Bible passages, and answering the questions. And I will post the answers a little later. Amen? Amen.

Well done Progmonk!

1. Is there any condemnation to true Christians?

look up scriptures: Romans 8:1-3,33.
Answer:
“Therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Iesous, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Iesous has made me free from the law of sin and death. For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sent his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh. Who will call accusation against God’s elect? God whom justifies.”

The key is "them which are IN Christ Iesous". Christ is Salvation, and when we are "in" him we are "in" salvation. Much like Noah's Ark, all that were in the ark were saved, and all that were outside of the ark perished. The foregoing chapter 7 shows the "before" Christ existence of condemnation, and the "after" Christ holy life. Chapter 7 is misused by many sinners to justify sin, but in the original Greek the passage does not show that SAINT Paul was sinning after his salvation, instead it shows that he was converted, and afterward he could not sin anymore for his sin was crucified and he is now dead to sin and alive to Christ.

2. What is different about the Christian's flesh?

look up scriptures: Romans 8:9,10.
Answer:
“But you all are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any person have not the Spirit from Christ, that one is none of his. And if Christ in you, the body dead because of sin: but the Spirit life because of righteousness.”

Again, Paul clearly shows that he is no longer carnal, but instead is spiritual.

3. How does the Christian know that they are saved?

look up scriptures: Romans 8:14-17.
Answer:
“For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the progeny of God. For you all have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but you all have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Papa, Father. The Spirit itself bears witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ, if so be that together we suffer, that also we may be glorified together.”

Now Paul is showing relationship, being of God's family, which our daily lives manifest outwardly to all that we are from God, being his very own. Therefore the world persecutes us because of the Christ living in us. Which as Progmonk has said, persecution is the mark or badge of salvation.

Although I differ in perception of verse 19 where Progmonk posts: "the point Paul is making here is that even though Creation is in a state of futility, in a state of decay, it is God himself who has made it this way": For God did not make anything futile. From the beginning in the garden of delight, all of creation was made perfect from the hand of the perfect one. But after God gave the gift of free will to his creatures, then they chose on their own volition to disobey God, not from futility but from selfishness and sin, and from their sin God rightly judged them, and futility and separation from God happened. God is not accountable for creations fallen nature, but creation which freely chooses to abuse God's gift of free will and choose sin over right, then there is consequence, namely, falling away from God into futility and condemnation. Now God offers the only way to restoration, namely Christ, and how we respond to this Tree of Life will determine whether we are more than a conqueror, or remain a defeated foe of God.

4. The Christian has already received the Holy Ghost, is there also a future redemption?

look up scriptures: Romans 8:23,32.
Answer:
“And not only, but ourselves also, which have the first-fruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, expecting adoption, the redemption of our body. He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how will he not with him also freely give us all things?”

Yes, indeed the rapture, and the future hope of glory is to each of us that are called by his name, he promises that he will come again and receive us up to himself.

5. What can separate us from God loving us?

look up scripture: Romans 8:35-39.
Answer:
“What will separate us from the love of Christ? tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? As it is written, For your sake we are killed all the day long; we are counted as sheep for the slaughter. Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us. For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, will be able to separate us from the love from God, which is in Christ Iesous our Lord.”

I agree with you Progmonk, these last few verses of chapter 8 are very powerful, and they bring tears to my eyes when I go through so much unfair adversity and I look up to the Lord out of my pain and I can see in this passage God's unspeakable love for us which is unending. And in our darkest times, we can see how great is his care, his love, real genuine unadulterated love for us. Wow, Thank you Iesous. Help me to let your light shine brightly in this dark world always and at all times, knowing that I am not alone but you are forever with me. Thank you thank you thank you. Amen Lord Amen.

Well done Progmonk!

 

[Keachian]

The following Christian Bible study on Salvation is on Romans chapter 8, as requested by Progmonk.

Let's walk through the passage.

1 There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.​

The use of the word therefore tells us that Paul is building of what has come before, immediately before Paul has talked about us obeying God with our mind even if we do not with our bodies, but this is not what I think what Paul is pointing to as he qualifies it by the phrase those who are in Christ Jesus he is pointing to the start of chapter 6 where he talks of how we have been united with Christ through baptism, made slaves to God, etc. The following verse continues to support this idea:

2 For the law of the Spirit of life has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death.​

see the second argument for righteousness in chapter 6; no longer are we slaves to sin but slaves to righteousness...

3 For God has done what the law, weakened by the flesh, could not do. By sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh, 4 in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.​

Paul ties in chapter 7 this is therefore the concluding idea of a section that began in chapter 6, Christ through his death and resurrection has made the conquering of the flesh possible.

5 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit set their minds on the things of the Spirit. 6 To set the mind on the flesh is death, but to set the mind on the Spirit is life and peace. 7 For the mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to God, for it does not submit to God's law; indeed, it cannot. 8 Those who are in the flesh cannot please God.​

Paul sums up the position we were in, and the position that some remain in, see also Romans 3. The default position (see Romans 5; we once were in Adam, but now we are in Christ, we once were fleshly but now we are spiritual) is opposed to God, unable to submit to God's law.

9 You, however, are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if in fact the Spirit of God dwells in you. Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him. 10 But if Christ is in you, although the body is dead because of sin, the Spirit is life because of righteousness. 11 If the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, he who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through his Spirit who dwells in you.​

Paul now describes the process we have come through to where we are now, the major change is that the Spirit of Christ now dwells within the believer, we are no longer dead in our transgressions but alive because of Christ.

12 So then, brothers, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live according to the flesh. 13 For if you live according to the flesh you will die, but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live.​

Because of what has happened, we should not look to the flesh for our direction, but to the spirit, we should put to death the acts of the flesh. No longer are we unable to do things which are pleasing to God, no longer are we at enmity with God.

14 For all who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God. 15 For you did not receive the spirit of slavery to fall back into fear, but you have received the Spirit of adoption as sons, by whom we cry, “Abba! Father!” 16 The Spirit himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God, 17 and if children, then heirs—heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ, provided we suffer with him in order that we may also be glorified with him.​

Our placement now as people who seek after the spirit, who seek after God's will puts us in a unique standing, we are now deemed as sons of God and where there is sonship there is inheritance, both in good things and bad things, our suffering is part and parcel of our inheritance that eventually leads to our own glorification, after all we are the brothers of Christ, so if his inheritance has lead to his glorification then our inheritance will lead to the same. Paul puts it in a reassuring tone that suffering will ultimately give way to the glorification of the faithful. Also to be pointed out Paul sees the Spirit as the seal and guarantee of the believer's adoption as a son of God.

18 For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worth comparing with the glory that is to be revealed to us.​

Paul continues to reassure the Romans that their suffering will lead to greater things.

19 For the creation waits with eager longing for the revealing of the sons of God. 20 For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of him who subjected it, in hope 21 that the creation itself will be set free from its bondage to decay and obtain the freedom of the glory of the children of God. 22 For we know that the whole creation has been groaning together in the pains of childbirth until now. ​

The expectancy of Gods creation is as a pregnant woman, but what is interesting here, the point Paul is making here is that even though Creation is in a state of futility, in a state of decay, it is God himself who has made it this way, Creation is longing, groaning hoping for the end of its futility where it is released, and even glorified through the revelation of the sons of God.

23 And not only the creation, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies. 24 For in this hope we were saved. Now hope that is seen is not hope. For who hopes for what he sees? 25 But if we hope for what we do not see, we wait for it with patience. ​

Paul now moves to see this expectancy of Creation as the same as that of the believer, we are expectant, we are hopeful for the Resurrection where we will be as Christ.

26 Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words. 27 And he who searches hearts knows what is the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints according to the will of God.​

So as the Spirit is the guarantee of our adoption so it is our intercessor and our strength in weakness, he is the supernatural link between the believer and God.

28 And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose.​

After going on about the glorification of ourselves as the ultimate inheritance in which all believers have been adopted to gain the good in my mind is one to look forward to, not the wealth and fame which the prosperity heretics would have us believe is the point of this verse. This heretical reading also does not fit in with the idea of being called according to God's purpose, God's purpose throughout scripture is his glorification not our wealth.

29 For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. 30 And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified. ​

I'll start in this passage from God's act of glorification since that is a theme that has been going through the passage so far, we know that it is the sons of God who are glorified (v17), going backwards this group has also been justified, they are in right standing with God, they have been called by God and finally they are predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son. Does man then have the ability to choose God? Well we saw earlier in v5-8 that those who are not indwelt by the Spirit are actively opposed to God. As Paul puts it the Spirit comes into us whereby we are able to cry “Abba! Father!”(v15) we become sons of God through this act, we become right with God [justified] (for on what level can a son of God not be justified?) What does Paul mean by foreknew? The Greek here is active; God knows what is going to happen in an active sense, he is not sitting back looking at history going "oh they'll choose me," the Greek here is intimate, the idea of knowing can be traced back throughout the Bible, Adam knows Eve and Cain and Abel result, as Christ says God knows every hair on our heads (Lk 12:7) it is Salvific, when the false believers approach Christ at the end, he says depart from me I never knew you. So what then? Then God predestines those to be conformed into the image of his Son, this to my mind is the only piece that is exclusively present/future as opposed to all the others which are past/present/future, God has already known us, and as we will see God has already, called, justified and glorified us. Then God calls us, is this calling universal? Well this plays into whether God's justification is universal as God justifies those who he calls, since we know that justification is not universal it is easy to say that God's calling is not universal. Is the calling effectual? Well since God justifies all he calls it must be, all respond positively to the call of God. So then God justifies all who he calls and calls only those who he will justify. The justification of all who are to be justified happens at the Cross, as following this Paul says that the only person who is to condemn is Christ, yet as we see earlier in Romans while we were still sinners, while we were still opposed to God Christ died in order that we might have life. (c5) So we also have been glorified, remember we have been united with Christ through baptism (6:3) are we not also united in his resurrection and ultimate glorification?

31 What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? 32 He who did not spare his own Son but gave him up for us all, how will he not also with him graciously give us all things?​

We have therefore firmly established that God is for us, especially through the death of his Son a willing (on the part of the Father) sacrifice for the people of God.

33 Who shall bring any charge against God's elect? It is God who justifies. 34 Who is to condemn? Christ Jesus is the one who died—more than that, who was raised—who is at the right hand of God, who indeed is interceding for us.​

So then since we have been justified through the Father's giving up his Son, the charge of condemnation is laid at the Son's feet, yet since he also willingly died for us we have security, more than that we have hope, and the knowledge that Christ also intercedes on our behalf.

The following is just beautiful and I don't think I need to add anything to it, however I will point out that the quote Paul uses is a celebration of us being counted worthy of the persecution of the world for the sake of Christ!

35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or danger, or sword? 36 As it is written,

“For your sake we are being killed all the day long;
we are regarded as sheep to be slaughtered.”


37 No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. 38 For I am sure that neither death nor life, nor angels nor rulers, nor things present nor things to come, nor powers, 39 nor height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.​

To the glory of God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ for all eternity Amen!

 

[Radagast]

Let's walk through the passage.

An excellent explanation!

 

[Keachian]

An excellent explanation!

I don't know I think I change gears a bit more than Paul does at the Golden Chain of Redemption.

 

[Eloy]

Progmonk, are there any other chapters or passages that you would like to have highlighted on Salvation for our Bible study? Let me know, and I can gladly outline it, or I can select some passages. Amen? Amen.

 

[Keachian]

Progmonk, are there any other chapters or passages that you would like to have highlighted on Salvation for our Bible study? Let me know, and I can gladly outline it, or I can select some passages. Amen? Amen.

Since this is your study do you want to walk through John 6:22-71? As in do what I did with Rom 8?