I think that most believers who are recently saved for the last 15 seconds, understand they are to live for God, as a lifestyle.
:THey should also understand that they live for God, BECAUSE HE HAS SAVED THEM, and not to try to STAY Saved by trying to be good.
See that?
Titus 2:11-14 notably does not say that we need to obey God's laws for how to do those things in order to become saved or that we will obey them because we have been saved, but rather it describes our salvation as being trained by grace to do those things.
God does not require you to agree to do good works, after you are saved, to save you.
He is not in the bargain business to redeem you.
Christ didn't hang on the Cross and die, to later make a bargain with you whereby if you agree to be a good person and try your best, He will save you.
No.
See, Salvation is God calling SINNERs to be made Righteous.
Jesus said...>"i did not come to call the RIGHTEOUS, but SINNERS", to the Cross.
The reason we are "made righteous", is because we WERE NOT until we were Made Righteous by God's Blood.
And this is caused not by your law keeping or your 10 commandment worshiping, or your water baptism, or your church membership..
We are given Heaven as our Home, right now, by being made Righteous, by God's BLood.
This is why God accepts us... He accepts us based on us being "made righteous".
He has to do it as "the GIFT of Righteousness".
This is Jesus.
John 14:6
As usual, you only quoting only part of the Gospel by which we are saved. You left out "Repentance"
Real faith, ...God accepts to give you the "new Birth".
Its this new birth (born again) that proves you are actually Saved....or not.
A lot of religious people, or backslidden Christians, or, baby Christians, think that "faith" is the savior.
So, they read "dead faith", that James is describing to those lukewarm or backslidden believers in the verse where He is describing them, ....and the novice believer misinterprets this as "dead salvation".
However, if those with dead faith were LOST, then James would not be instructing them about what to do about their dead faith.
The "New Birth" is a totally new life in Lord Jesus - not the old life you once lived for sinful desires.
The New Birth, which is a new life in Lord Jesus, is the Salvation of God to those who believe.
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You are talking about becoming ....the process of becoming a Christian.
Im talking about being one.
So, sure, we are to repent of our unbelief and turn to faith in Christ.
There is your "repentance" that God accepts to Justify and Redeem.
You REPENT of your UNBELIEF.
You turn from your UNBELIEF< and you begin to BELIEVE in Christ.
That is true repentance, that God accepts as FAITH.
The new birth is to be born again INTO God's Holy Spirit by God's Holy Spirit.
That is the "new birth" that causes a sinner to become a "new Creation" "in Christ".
This born again person, now has become "ONE WITH GOD" = Spiritually
Do you actually think repentance is just repentance from unbelief???
How do you receive God's Spirit to give you life?
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If you are sinning and confessing then you are not obeying the doctrine of the NT, given by Paul who told you to leave the baby stage , the carnal christian stage, and grow up, Spiritually.
Paul teaches that you are to "leave the first principals of faith, which is the repentance from dead works'..
(confessing sin ).
Hebrews 6:1.
We the born again, are not to live in that carnal stage of "sinning and confessing".
We are to move on, working out our salvation, Growing in Grace,= understanding who we are made to be "in Christ".
We are not to exist on the tit, on the milk bottle, and saved 10 yrs, or even 3.
We are to understand the basic principle of the doctrine of Justification by faith, and get past the "what im to do to try to save myself", diaper state of carnal Christianity, and move into the "it is Christ who lives in me", "it is not i who live"....perfected discipleship stage, that is the "fullness of the stature of Christ.
We are to arrive there in our Spirituality, not after we die, but while we are on this earth.
By faith.
"faith is counted as Righteousness".
God sees faith in Christ, in the sinner's heart, when they hear the Gospel, and "faith comes by hearing", and God accepts this faith to give them the BLood Atonement and the new Birth = born again.
If you are sinning and confessing then you are not obeying the doctrine of the NT, given by Paul who told you to leave the baby stage , the carnal christian stage, and grow up, Spiritually.
Paul teaches that you are to "leave the first principals of faith, which is the repentance from dead works'..
(confessing sin ).
Hebrews 6:1.
Yes, salvation is ALL of God, and our discipleship that follows our Salvation, is marked by our deeds.
According to the New Testament Gospel, the adult stage is to live holy lives onto God.
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Peter is a good apostle, but Paul is your example regarding how to perfect your discipleship.
The "adult stage" of Christian Spirituality, is to exist as "perfect", "as the fullness of the stature of Christ".
This is beyond lifestyle that you are describing.
Also, the born again, begin as the righteousness of God.
The born again, START their Salvation, as "the righteousness of God, in Christ".
So, you can't become more HOLY< then God's Righteousness that is "the gift of righteousness" that is "the gift of Salvation".
The blood atonement, never ceases to keep the born again as sinless as God's Blood.
The discipleship you are talking about, never becomes perfected until the believer learns to rest in the Grace of God, vs, trying to live holy.
What if a Christian does turn back into living in sin, is he still saved?
Again, those verses those say that being trained by grace to do those things follows our salvation,
Did you remain saved all the times you confessed your sin, again?
So, here is the problem with self saving theology.
It fails as soon as you have to admit you sinned again, and had to confess it.
Here is the reality.
Eternal life is not temporary.
You can never stop being born again.
The same blood of Jesus that saved you, keeps you saved, for as long as God lives.
Anything you can come up with as a "sin", including..>>"well that person hates God now, and they said Christ is the devil".., so are they still born again. ????
Of course.
See, sin is never charged again to the born again., because God has already died for the sin of the world.
God does not die on the Cross for your sin, to then charge you for your sin later.
Think on that, and then Romans 4:8, will become Light to you.
If Grace is always training salvation
If Grace is always training salvation, then why are there so many denominations and so many found on Christian forums, who can't even discuss Grace, or understand why God's Blood is Salvation, and its not them trying to keep laws and commandments, and endure to the end, trying to save themselves. ?
See the issue with your theology?
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