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Salvation a science?

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Salvation is not simply science, it is not simply a science; it is the chief, the key, the center of all sciences. It is the most scientific of all things that are dealt with by the minds of men in this world.

Everybody knows that this is a very scientific age. At least in name, in profession, and in aspiration. God wants his people always to be up with the age. More than that: He wants His people always to be ahead of the age. Particularly He wants His people always to be reformers, and for a person to be a reformer, he must be ahead of the age. Then as this is a particularly scientific age, in profession and otherwise, God's cause, His people, must be scientific to meet the demands of the age. The Lord wants you and me to accept that proposition, to study it, and to build upon it, until it is demonstrated in us before the world that that proposition is scientifically correct." A.T. Jones
 
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Now, I am thoroughly committed to that truth. And I want you to see how completely it is the truth. You and I are committed to the salvation of God. And I want you to see by the Bible--the book of all truth--that salvation is science. Then you will, with me, be committed to that truth.

First, then, I want you to think soberly, and see for yourself not only that salvation is science; but that it is the highest of all sciences.

The word 'science' means, literally, knowledge. The science of botany is the knowledge of botany. The science of astronomy is the knowledge of astronomy. So that one scientist has defined science to be 'the product of thinking.' All the knowledge--the science--that the world has of astronony, is the product of the world's thinking on the subject of astronony.

Now salvation is the knowledge of God: 'This is life eternal, that they might KNOW Thee the living and true God, and Jesus Christ whom Thou hast sent.' It is therefore science. But this knowledge is not the product of man's thinking: it is the product of God's thinking. For 'eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither hath entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love Him. But God hath revealed them unto us by His Spirit; for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.'

Therefore salvation being the product of God's thinking, is not only science, but is the highest of all sciences." A.T. Jones.
 
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Now, I am thoroughly committed to that truth. And I want you to see how completely it is the truth. You and I are committed to the salvation of God. And I want you to see by the Bible--the book of all truth--that salvation is science. Then you will, with me, be committed to that truth.

First, then, I want you to think soberly, and see for yourself not only that salvation is science; but that it is the highest of all sciences.

The word 'science' means, literally, knowledge. The science of botany is the knowledge of botany. The science of astronomy is the knowledge of astronomy. So that one scientist has defined science to be 'the product of thinking.' All the knowledge--the science--that the world has of astronony, is the product of the world's thinking on the subject of astronony.

Now salvation is the knowledge of God: 'This is life eternal, that they might KNOW Thee the living and true God, and Jesus Christ whom Thou hast sent.' It is therefore science. But this knowledge is not the product of man's thinking: it is the product of God's thinking. For 'eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither hath entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love Him. But God hath revealed them unto us by His Spirit; for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.'

Therefore salvation being the product of God's thinking, is not only science, but is the highest of all sciences." A.T. Jones.

Again, that which is recognized by the world as science--the natural sciences--is the product of men's thinking. It is with the mind that men think. It is with the mind, then, that men deal with all these sciences. But salvation deals with the mind itself. Which, then, is the higher?--that which deals with all other things, or that which deals with that which deals with all other things?--The latter, to be sure.

Then as with the mind men deal with all other sciences, and salvation deals with the mind itself, it is perfectly plain, not only that salvation is science as certainly as any other science, but that it is higher science than all other sciences. It is the highest science that can be known to the mind of man.

Yet again: Salvation deals with the mind. But who is it that in salvation and by salvation deals with the mind?--It is God Himself. Than as it is God Himself who works out, who makes known, this science; and as this science is the product of God's thinking; it follows that the science of salvation is the highest, the deepest, the broadest, science that is known, not only to the mind of man, but to the whole universe.

"Be not conformed to this world; but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind." Rom.12:2.

The only way the Lord can reach us is through the mind. He deals with us only through the mind. He governs us only through the mind. This change of mind is salvation. That renewing of the mind is wrought by God in the work of His salvation, and it can be wrought by no other. Therefore it is the highest of all sciences--the highest that is known to the mind of man, the highest that is known to the universe." A.T. Jones
 
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Do the angels understand other sciences--biology, geology, ichthyology, astronomy--all other sciences? You know that they do. Everybody knows that the angels understand thoroughly all other sciences. Everybody knows that it is perfectly safe to say that all the angels understand all other sciences infinitely more thoroughly than any man understands, or ever understood, any one single science. But the angels are more interested in the subject of salvation than in all the other sciences. (Eph.3:8-11; 1 Peter 1:12)

They who know the most of all the others, are most interested in the science of salvation. O, well, you agreed with me a while ago that if I could cite such authority as that, you would say that we were safe in taking this position. Come along, then, we are safe. We are in the best of company--yes, the best of scientific company. There is authority that is conclusive on the subject, scientific authority.

Well, then, as the angels understand all other sciences more than any man understands any one, when they are more interested in the science of salvation than in all the others, and learn from this, is not that a fact upon which you and I can with safety trust ourselves? Then is not this, too, a subject more worthy of our thought, our highest thinking, than all others put together? And cannot we set our hearts upon this, and give our whole soul to it without being unscientific? O, we can, we can! Let us do it.

Now, do not misunderstand me. I am not making an attack on other sciences. I am not saying that all other sciences should be ignored, and counted as Will-o'-the-wisps, and unworthy of my attention. No; I am saying that this is greater than all of them; and that whatever we study in them must be studied in subjection to this which is greater than they. I am saying only that all others must take a secondary place, at least, to this one, if we would be scientific." A.T. Jones
 
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Now I am not making a play on the word science here to-night. I am using the words 'science' and 'scientific' with reference to salvation as an absolutely truthful word. The salvation of God is truly a scientific thing, not falsely so-called, but genuinely, supremely scientific. So do not get the idea at all that I am making a play upon the word 'science' or 'scientific.' I am using it truthfully, because it is correct in this connetion.

Think of it! Take our own natural minds with which we deal with other sciences. Would I, would any man, be strictly scientific to put his best and highest thinking on a science, when he had the highest possible authority that there was a higher one at his hand? Would that be scientific?--No.

Well, then, we see so far that salvation is a science; that it is the highest science. Then any man who does not put his highest thinking, his best thinking, and all his powers, upon this science first of all, and have it lead all other sciences, in the nature of things he is not scientific.

And he is not wise either. For what is this science?--Salvation. Very good. And it is eternal life. Suppose I put all my life, all my powers, on other sciences, to the neglect of this, or holding this as inferior, do I get it?--No.

How long shall I have then, to study the other sciences?--At the most only a few years. Then my work upon these sciences will be done forever, and I shall never have a chance to study them any more.

But if I take this one first of all, and let the others take the inferior place until I get this one secure, then shall I have a chance to study the others?--Yes. How long?--To eternity. Ah, is not that the wise way then? Is not that the only wise course? And is not that the only scientific and sensible course?--Certainly it is. Come, then, let us be scientific, strictly so, supremely so." A.T. Jones.
 
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One man named in the Bible was thoroughly versed in universal science--all the natural sciences of this world. I want you to see that there was a man thoroughly versed in the sciences that are made so much of in the world. And I want you to see what he says in view of it all. Here is the Scripture:

"And God gave Solomon wisdom and understanding exceeding much and largeness of heart, even as the sand that is on the sea shore. And Solomon's wisdom excelled the wisdom of all the children of the east country, and all the wisdom of Egypt. For he was wiser than all men; than Ethan the Ezrahite, and Heman, and Chalcol, and Darda, the sons of Mahol; and his fame was in all nations round about. And he spake three thousand proverbs; and his songs were a thousand and five. And he spake of trees from the cedar tree that is in Lebanon even unto the hyssop that springeth out of the wall; and he spake also of beasts, and of fowl, and of creeping things, and of fishes." 1 Kings 4:29.

He spoke of trees from the cedar tree that is in Lebanon to the hyssop that springeth out of the wall. What is that called in science?--Botany. He understood botany better than any one else in the world.

He spoke also of beasts. What would be the scientific word if it were put there to-day?--Zoology. Solomon understood zo-ology better than any man who lives in the world today. He taught it; for it says he spoke of all these things. He taught these sciences.

"And of fowl." What is that science?--Ornithology.

What next?--"And of creeping things." What science is that?--Entomology.

"and of fishes." What science is that?--Ichthyology.

People who read this passage of Scripture, do not usually think of Solomon as a universal scientist. But if it had been said that Solomon spoke of botany, zo-ology, ornithology, entomology, and ichthyology, they would be ready to say, What a wonderful man Solomon was. But it would not then be a particle more wonderful than it is; for it does say all that.

I read this that you might see that Solomon knew something of science, not only something of science, but more of all these sciences than any other man has ever known of any one of them.

Yet though he so thoroughly understood all these sciences, and having taught in them all, here is what he says:

"Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter;" the sum of all that has been said is: "Fear God and keep His commandments, for this is the whole duty of man; for God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good or whether it be evil."

In his estimation, what took precedence of all other sciences put together?--The salvation of God." A.T. Jones.
 
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Now, the Bible is not a treatise upon any science except the science of salvation. It is a set treatise upon that subject. The Bible refers to other sciences; but there are no treatises in the Bible on any other science. Other sciences are referred to, as the ones that we have noticed in Corinthians and in Isaiah; why are they referred to in these places--to state a scientific point?--No; but to be used to illustrate better to our understanding the science of salvation. Why is that astronomical truth brought into 1 Cor.15:41?

What is the purpose of saying, "One star differs from another in glory?" It goes right on to say, "So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in dishonor, it is raised in power."

Just as one star differs from another in glory, so also is the resurrection. Thus you see that the purpose of calling in that scientific point, is to illustrate a point in the science of salvation, to help us the better see a truth in the science of salvation." A.T. Jones.
 
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The angels understand all the sciences, yet they consider salvation more worthy of their study than all of the other sciences put together. The prophets also considered it more worthy; and employed the others as a means to better understand salvation. And here is a man that understood the other sciences, and he says that the science of salvation transcends them all. Now I want you to see that God Himself on His own part, separated from all these, considers it just so.

See here: We just read that Solomon taught all these sciences. How much of these teachings have we written out for our study?--Not one. God did not bring to us any record or report of Solomon's teaching in botany. He did not bring to us, or put on record, a single lesson that Solomon ever taught in zo-ology, or any other one of these sciences. But he did, over and over, bring us lessons from Solomon, as well as all the rest, on the science of salvation.

Then, counting the angels as giving only an angel's opinion; counting the prophets as giving only a prophet's opinion, and Solomon as giving only a universal scientist's opinion; what is God's opinion?--It is that salvation is worth more to you and me, and is more worthy of our study, than all these other sciences, this knowledge of which He Himself gave.

This science that Solomon understood and taught was not such science as that of Huxley, Darwin, and the other scientists of his age. With the natural mind man can delve into natural sciences, and make many discoveries. And though they are not always correct, yet they can discover some points that are true.

But that was not Solomon's way. God gave to Solomon wisdom, so that he saw into all this by the light of God. He spoke of all this by the wisdom of God. Thus the science which Solomon taught was God's science. The botany that he taught was genuine, divine botany. The zo-ology that he taught was divine zo-ology. It was God's views, God's truth, God's science in all these things. It was not science falsely so-called.

Well, then, that being God's science, and it being divine in itself, why didn't the Lord give it all to us? Why didn't He give to the world Solomon's treatise on botany, and on all these other subjects?--There is a reason for it; and it is that that is not what the world needs first of all.

A man might have all that, he might understand all that, as did Solomon. Yet what good would it do him, if he did not have the science of salvation first of all? Solomon had it all; yet when he turned his heart from God, from the science of salvation, and from the study of that with all his heart, what good did his knowledge of the other sciences do him? How much of it was able to hold him back from sin? How much power was there in it to keep him back from his natural self, and from the deviltry and corruption that was in him?

You know that when he turned his heart from God's science, from the science of salvation, though he had all the others, he was just as bad, just as wicked, swallowed up as thoroughly in idolatry and every profane thing, as though he did not know the A B C of anything.

Thus we can see why it is that the Lord did not reserve to man all there is of science. Suppose they had it all, as Solomon did, and could teach it as Solomon taught it. With the heart not surrendered to God, what good would science do them? It could not refrain them from any kind of wickedness and corruption that is in the human heart.

These sciences are not what the world needs today. The heart needs to be purified, the soul needs to be saved, the whole character rebuilt, the mind transformed into the very image and glory of God, so that the life shall reflect His righteousness, to make manifest the knowledge of God alone to all the world. Though we have all that all the sciences can give, it will profit nothing without salvation; for it will be but a little while till we shall have none of it at all. This is worth thinking about for ourselves today, in all our studies, readings, and researches." A.T. Jones.

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When the work of God is finished in the world, then the Lord will open the universe and eternity to us. Then all these subjects will be open for our study, and the Lord can say to us, Go where you will, I can trust you. The wide universe is open to you. There is nothing kept back from you. It is all your own. It belongs to you. Go where you please, stay where you please, do what you please; I can trust you. Think on whatever subject you please, delve into it as deeply as you please, you will do it rightly.

Now, I am not saying that men ate utterly to ignore all other sciences till we reach the other world. I am simply saying that the science of salvation is to lead in the study of all of them. Has not the Lord set us an example as to what attention we should pay to these things, and what use we are to make of them? What is the purpose of reading and studying these other text-books?--That these may help us better to understand and to teach the things of the science of salvation. That is the use made of them in the Bible. By this the Lord shows us that the science of salvation must take the lead of all the other sciences known in the universe.

It must take the lead of all others in this world, and when we get into that other world it will still take the lead. When eternity is open before us, and when we go anywhere we please, and think upon any subject we please, shall we turn our backs upon salvation then, and say, I have graduated in that?--No. We know it is written that "the cross of Christ will be the SCIENCE and the song of the redeemed throughout the ceaseless ages of eternity."

Then, when we have finished our course here, when we have graduated, and the time comes for a grand commencement, and we enter upon an eternity of study, we shall then be more able to understand this greatest of all sciences than when we were in this world.

We stated in the other lesson that it is not a misuse of the words "science" and "scientific," to apply them to salvation. Salvation is a science, it is scientific. The working of the Spirit of God upon the mind, transforming the mind and all the life into the image of Jesus Christ, from sin unto righgteousness--that is a scientific thing. Therefore when you study it, bear in mind that we are not in the least unscientific when we make that the chief and the all in all of every subject, all the time. These would-be scientists are unscientific in neglecting this, the chief of all sciences." A.T. Jones, 1897 General Conference Bulletin, pp.60-63.

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If salvation was a science I doubt many people would be able to obtain it... especially the illiterate...

"The matter (science) of salvation is just as simple as A B C. But we don't understand it." E.G. White, Faith & Works,64.

"There is not one in one hundred who understands for himself the Bible truth on this subject (science) that is so necessary to our present and eternal welfare." Selected Messages, Vol.1,360.

It is God's science, His thinking, His working to renew the mind.

"My thoughts are not your thoughts and My ways your ways." Isaiah 55:11.

Even the angels are more interested in this science than all the other sciences as shown in 1 Peter.1:12.

Remember, salvation is the knowledge of God: "This is life eternal, that they might KNOW Thee the living and true God, and Jesus Christ whom Thou hast sent." It is therefore science. But this knowledge is not the product of man's thinking: it is the product of God's thinking. For "eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither hath entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love Him. But God hath revealed them unto us by His Spirit; for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God."

Therefore salvation being the product of God's thinking, is not only science, but is the highest of all sciences.
 
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"The matter (science) of salvation is just as simple as A B C. But we don't understand it." E.G. White, Faith & Works,64.

"There is not one in one hundred who understands for himself the Bible truth on this subject (science) that is so necessary to our present and eternal welfare." Selected Messages, Vol.1,360.

It is God's science, His thinking, His working to renew the mind.

"My thoughts are not your thoughts and My ways your ways." Isaiah 55:11.

Even the angels are more interested in this science than all the other sciences as shown in 1 Peter.1:12.

Remember, salvation is the knowledge of God: "This is life eternal, that they might KNOW Thee the living and true God, and Jesus Christ whom Thou hast sent." It is therefore science. But this knowledge is not the product of man's thinking: it is the product of God's thinking. For "eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither hath entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love Him. But God hath revealed them unto us by His Spirit; for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God."

Therefore salvation being the product of God's thinking, is not only science, but is the highest of all sciences.
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I guess egw surely didnt understand... then why did she write about something she had no clue about?
 
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Remember, salvation is the knowledge of God: "This is life eternal, that they might KNOW Thee the living and true God, and Jesus Christ whom Thou hast sent."
Absolutely wrong! Knowledge of God can result in salvation - it is not always indicative of same.

If salvation was simply and only a 'science;" why would the blood of Christ even be needed?

The gospel of Jesus Christ is simply wonderful; and wonderfully simple. You are complicating it well beyond recognition.
 
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