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Saddam and Gomorrah

This is the way a city or a nation gets to be like Saddam and Gomorrah.

http://www.massresistance.org/docs/marriage/effects_of_ssm.html

America has a chance to stop this in November.

Obama supports homosexuality, McCain does not.

It amazes me how Satan forces people to make a decision.

That decision tells what is really in a person's heart.
 

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Why the constant deceptiveness? The Bible never once mentions homosexuality in connection to Sodom and Gomorrah and the Bible clearly states the reasons for their destruction and homosexuality is never mentioned? Why try to write a Bible that doesn't exist?

It's also pretty sick to try and tie Obama to Saddam but hey...I am sure these deceptive tactics are a great, I mean REALLY REALLY GREAT witness for Christ. Stuff like this is embarrassing to Christianity and Christ would never approve of the active deception.
 
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Ezekiel 16:49:

"Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy."

Yup, sounds like gay marriage to me.
 
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Clirus is saying that Obama supporters are deceived by Satan.

In other words, Obama is Satan's candidate. And McCain is Jesus's candidate.

This is why McCain is losing the election Clirus. Because of McCain supporters like you. Keep up the smears and the slimes, it's going to be an excellent year.
 
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Tell me cilrus, do you honestly think that McCain if elected will stop, prevent or make illegal homosexual acts?
If so how, do you expect he will do so, if such moves would be unconstitiutional?

I expect if elected he will do nothing to change to status quo. So how is voting for Obama different?
 
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Another user started a thread elsewhere that the election of Obama would be proof demonic forces were at work in the world and now this.

The right is seeing the handwriting on the wall and they are unhappy.

Seriously though, we will never be able to make the changes that need to be made in this country as long as we keep demonizing the leadership of the other side.
 
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Another user started a thread elsewhere that the election of Obama would be proof demonic forces were at work in the world and now this.

The right is seeing the handwriting on the wall and they are unhappy.

Seriously though, we will never be able to make the changes that need to be made in this country as long as we keep demonizing the leadership of the other side.
Exactly!

I mean, just because McCain is the devil incarnate doesn't make him a bad person.
:p

(kidding...)
 
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Saddam and Gomorrah

This is the way a city or a nation gets to be like Saddam and Gomorrah.

http://www.massresistance.org/docs/marriage/effects_of_ssm.html

America has a chance to stop this in November.

Obama supports homosexuality, McCain does not.

It amazes me how Satan forces people to make a decision.

That decision tells what is really in a person's heart.

Obama is going to get votes anyway he can. Americans think he is being a fair minded leader, what he is , is a hypocrite. How can a person love Christ and think sin is okay?
 
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Obama is going to get votes anyway he can. Americans think he is being a fair minded leader, what he is , is a hypocrite. How can a person love Christ and think sin is okay?
Obama and McCain are both sinners. And so are the rest of us.
 
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Why the constant deceptiveness? The Bible never once mentions homosexuality in connection to Sodom and Gomorrah and the Bible clearly states the reasons for their destruction and homosexuality is never mentioned? Why try to write a Bible that doesn't exist?

It's also pretty sick to try and tie Obama to Saddam but hey...I am sure these deceptive tactics are a great, I mean REALLY REALLY GREAT witness for Christ. Stuff like this is embarrassing to Christianity and Christ would never approve of the active deception.

The actions of the sodomites were pretty clear when the Lord and and of his angels visited Lot.

Gen.19:5
They called to Lot , "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.
The word sodomy comes from sodom.

Truth is truth.
 
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Why the constant deceptiveness? The Bible never once mentions homosexuality in connection to Sodom and Gomorrah and the Bible clearly states the reasons for their destruction and homosexuality is never mentioned? Why try to write a Bible that doesn't exist?
Other than that bit about them trying to sodomize Lot and the angels, you're absoloutely right! :)
 
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To the two previous posters, please reread post 4 and comment? :)
You mean me? Cool! *high five*
Okay here goes.
Ezekiel 16:49:

"Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy."

Yup, sounds like gay marriage to me.
Okay, what I'm getting from this is that the sins of Sodom were first of all, pride, which is the root of all evil.
After that, it mentions fulness of bread which in itself I suppose isn't bad, but it ties into the next two sins. Idleness, because they were well off they became decadent and "idle" and to God, when we don't use what He gave us to benefit others it's a sin.
Last but not least, inspite of all their wealth, they were selfish and didn't help the poor and needy, kind of goes along with the idleness one.

What any of this has to do with gay marriage is beyond me.

Okay you narcissist ;) I read your post and commented on it. How did I do?
 
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You mean me? Cool! *high five*
Okay here goes.
Okay, what I'm getting from this is that the sins of Sodom were first of all, pride, which is the root of all evil.
After that, it mentions fulness of bread which in itself I suppose isn't bad, but it ties into the next two sins. Idleness, because they were well off they became decadent and "idle" and to God, when we don't use what He gave us to benefit others it's a sin.
Last but not least, inspite of all their wealth, they were selfish and didn't help the poor and needy, kind of goes along with the idleness one.

What any of this has to do with gay marriage is beyond me.

Okay you narcissist ;) I read your post and commented on it. How did I do?

Sorry, figured it was easier to post a general request than just repost the thing again seeing as there were a few posts saying similar stuff! Wasn't trying to be a big ol' narcissist :D

I was just curious to know your views on that verse - for me it puts the OP in a different light, and it does seem like God's giving a reason that S+G were destroyed - and yeah, by that verse it really doesn't appear to have anything to do with homosexuality or gay marriage.
 
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The actions of the sodomites were pretty clear when the Lord and and of his angels visited Lot.

Gen.19:5
They called to Lot , "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.
The word sodomy comes from sodom.

Truth is truth.

Lol...how about posting the source of that english translation? The Hebrew for "know" did not mean sex at all....and Genesis states all the people descended on Lot's house...not simply "men" but hey, get your free Dishonest Dobson Starter Kit folks!
 
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