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Greg1234

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I agree that the message of the Bible is not tied to its historicity (or lack of the same): that's the one thing that people these days fail to understand about the nature of myth. A tale can be true without being factual - very much so.

Actually it's tied to historicity. When a police officer radios "multiple 10-55s," that's myth.
 
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steve_bakr

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Deaver said:
In hindsight, I wish that I had not used the terms "liberal' or "conservative" in my post #328. Both conservativism and liberalism are man-made philosophies, both having their respective limitations in regards to biblical truth. We should not allow our perception of Jesus to be skewed by our ideology, attempting to define Him in light of our previously defined viewpoints.

We must also recognize that Jesus was not a political figure, and to attempt to paint Him either "liberal" or "conservative is wrong.

To answer your question, the following from Jesus: Conservative or Liberal? "Copyright 2004 by James and Dave's Bible Page. Used by permission" presents some viewpoints that are probably considered conservative, today.

"As we shall see, all of these statements are in total contrast to the Biblical Jesus. In order to understand the world through Jesus' eyes, we must first understand the world view He followed: Jesus was a devout, Torah observant Jew who believed and cherished the Old Testament and its ordinances. Although much so called "modern scholarship" has attempted to divorce Him from this, everything Jesus taught was based on, and consistent with, the 4000 years of Old Testament teaching that paved the way for Him (Matthew 5:17).

"In light of this, Jesus would have wholeheartedly affirmed the Law's decree that homosexuality is indeed a horrendous sin (Leviticus 18:22). In perfect harmony with God's Law, Jesus taught that the only legitimate sexual activity is between a man and a woman within the confines of marriage (Mark 10:6-9). Similarly, He would have echoed the words of the Prophets Isaiah and Jeremiah, who said that God formed them in their mothers' wombs (Isaiah 44:2, 24; 49:1-5, Jeremiah 1:5). Compare this to the commandment to "Speak up for those who cannot speak for themselves; ensure justice for those who are perishing" (Proverbs 31:8, NLT). In light of this, the notion that Jesus would have advocated abortion is blasphemous.

"Modern society has often painted Jesus as a very "soft," even effeminate persona. It is certainly true that Jesus teaches us to be followers of peace and to turn the other cheek when we are reviled or insulted (Matthew 5:9, 38-39). However, being a peacemaker is not necessarily the same as being a pacifist. Keep in mind that this is the same Jesus who specifically instructed His followers to buy a sword ( Luke 22:36). In one of His parables, He portrays Himself as a landowner who imposes the death penalty on an unjust servant ( Luke 19:12-27). When He encountered a Roman military leader (Matthew 8:5-10), Jesus did not rebuke him in the least for his military occupation. Instead, He commends the soldier for his great faith, a faith so strong and pure that it put all of Israel to shame. In all of these areas, Jesus' teachings would be considered quite conservative by modern terms."

There are a lot of "would haves" in the given quotation which suggest that the author wants to mould his very own Jesus to fit into his "conservative" belief system.
 
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Deaver

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There are a lot of "would haves" in the given quotation which suggest that the author wants to mould his very own Jesus to fit into his "conservative" belief system.

I agree, and it because this quote is somewhat out of context. The entire article presents Jesus as a Liberal, if you want to argue that viewpoint; also as a conservative, if you want to argue that viewpoint. The real point of the article was that you cannot and should not attempt to portray Jesus as a Liberal or a Conservative.
 
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I agree, and it because this quote is somewhat out of context. The entire article presents Jesus as a Liberal, if you want to argue that viewpoint; also as a conservative, if you want to argue that viewpoint. The real point of the article was that you cannot and should not attempt to portray Jesus as a Liberal or a Conservative.

I find this argument that Jesus was a radical, much more persuasive:

Jesus was a radical
 
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