sabbath - noun/verb issue

[Adventist Dissident]

could some one tell me what the rejection of the Sabbath based on the verb/noun is based on and where one gets this in the bible. and please don't tell me a Verb is an Action and a Noun is a Thing, i know that already. where is the scriptural basis for this.

 

[VictorC]

could some one tell me what the rejection of the Sabbath based on the verb/noun is based on and where one gets this in the bible. and please don't tell me a Verb is an Action and a Noun is a Thing, i know that already. where is the scriptural basis for this.

Okay, the sabbath is a thing denoted as a noun. You knew this already; I guess we can move along now...

 

[Adventist Dissident]

Okay, the sabbath is a thing denoted as a noun. You knew this already; I guess we can move along now...

so you have No biblical support for this?

 

[VictorC]

so you have No biblical support for this?

I didn't know support for the sabbath being a noun was necessary. From the lexicon I have on my computer for the Hebrew and its usage:

shabbath shab-bawth'
intensive from 07673, Greek 4521 sabbaton; TWOT-2323b; noun f/m
AV-sabbath 107, another 1; 108

1) Sabbath

1a) sabbath
1b) day of atonement
1c) sabbath year
1d) week
1e) produce (in sabbath year)​

Any questions?

 

[Adventist Dissident]

I didn't know support for the sabbath being a noun was necessary. From the lexicon I have on my computer for the Hebrew and its usage:

shabbath shab-bawth'
intensive from 07673, Greek 4521 sabbaton; TWOT-2323b; noun f/m
AV-sabbath 107, another 1; 108

1) Sabbath

1a) sabbath
1b) day of atonement
1c) sabbath year
1d) week
1e) produce (in sabbath year)
​

Any questions?

that's more like it. i will have to invistigate this notice it says the Greek is the NOUN, NOT the Hebrew

 

[Adventist Dissident]

http://strongsnumbers.com/hebrew/7673.htm

STrongs 07673

to cease, desist, rest​

Original Word: שָׁבַת
Transliteration: shabath
Phonetic Spelling: (shaw-bath')
Short Definition: cause to

cause to, let, make to cease, celebrate, cause make to fail
A primitive root; to repose, i.e. Desist from exertion; used in many implied relations (causative, figurative or specific) -- (cause to, let, make to) cease, celebrate, cause (make) to fail, keep (sabbath), suffer to be lacking, leave, put away (down), (make to) rest, rid, still, take away.

does it say it is a noun or a verb? does not say?

 

[Adventist Dissident]

Hebrew thinking vs Greek thinking
1. http://water-desert.wetpaint.com/page/Hebrew+Thinking+vs.+Greek+Thinking

2. http://www.shamar.org/articles/hebrew-thought.php



There is even a book on the subject
of hebrew and greek thought
AHRC's Hebrew Studies Bookstore - Hebrew Thought Compared with Greek

you can find it in a library near you and have it sent to you, just click on the link, type in your zip, then go to you local library and request it from inter library loan


http://www.worldcat.org/title/hebrew-thought-compared-with-greek/oclc/369743&referer=brief_results

 

[VictorC]

that's more like it. i will have to invistigate this notice it says the Greek is the NOUN, NOT the Hebrew

False.
My lexicon provides the Greek that appears in the LXX in the same location as the Hebrew, but the definition I provided was for the Hebrew shabbath, which is 07676 in the Strong's Concordance. It is both linguistic terms that are nouns.

 

[Adventist Dissident]

for example

the word for gift and the word for knee come from the same root word.

to bend. the is function based and action based. knee because it bends and gift (noun-thing) because one gives a gift on a bended knee.

things that are translated into greek via the LXX first were written in a verb base language. this affects the sabbath too. becuse it is described by it action not it state of being.

 

[MariaRegina]

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