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I am looking for sabbath keepers here to support a sabatarian section. Are there any here
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if you are a seventh day sabbath keeper please vote and show your support for a sabbatarian icon
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Never heard of them. The Jewish Sabbath is kept by some Messianic Jews, I suggest you hang around with them.
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So far as I am aware there are not many MJs in the Salvation Army forum. For MJ discussion I go to the MJ part of this site. I am sure you will be welcome to discuss issues of how to keep a Saturday Sabbath.
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if you are a Sabbath keeper or would like to show support for a new Sabbath keepers section please vote here
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What's your defintion of Sabbath? I prefer to go by this definition from Isaiah 58
True Fasting
1 "Shout it aloud, do not hold back.
Raise your voice like a trumpet.
Declare to my people their rebellion
and to the house of Jacob their sins.
2 For day after day they seek me out;
they seem eager to know my ways,
as if they were a nation that does what is right
and has not forsaken the commands of its God.
They ask me for just decisions
and seem eager for God to come near them.
3 'Why have we fasted,' they say,
'and you have not seen it?
Why have we humbled ourselves,
and you have not noticed?'
"Yet on the day of your fasting, you do as you please
and exploit all your workers.
4 Your fasting ends in quarreling and strife,
and in striking each other with wicked fists.
You cannot fast as you do today
and expect your voice to be heard on high.
5 Is this the kind of fast I have chosen,
only a day for a man to humble himself?
Is it only for bowing one's head like a reed
and for lying on sackcloth and ashes?
Is that what you call a fast,
a day acceptable to the LORD ?
6 "Is not this the kind of fasting I have chosen:
to loose the chains of injustice
and untie the cords of the yoke,
to set the oppressed free
and break every yoke?
7 Is it not to share your food with the hungry
and to provide the poor wanderer with shelter—
when you see the naked, to clothe him,
and not to turn away from your own flesh and blood?
8 Then your light will break forth like the dawn,
and your healing will quickly appear;
then your righteousness [a] will go before you,
and the glory of the LORD will be your rear guard.
9 Then you will call, and the LORD will answer;
you will cry for help, and he will say: Here am I.
"If you do away with the yoke of oppression,
with the pointing finger and malicious talk,
10 and if you spend yourselves in behalf of the hungry
and satisfy the needs of the oppressed,
then your light will rise in the darkness,
and your night will become like the noonday.
11 The LORD will guide you always;
he will satisfy your needs in a sun-scorched land
and will strengthen your frame.
You will be like a well-watered garden,
like a spring whose waters never fail.
12 Your people will rebuild the ancient ruins
and will raise up the age-old foundations;
you will be called Repairer of Broken Walls,
Restorer of Streets with Dwellings.
13 "If you keep your feet from breaking the Sabbath
and from doing as you please on my holy day,
if you call the Sabbath a delight
and the LORD's holy day honorable,
and if you honor it by not going your own way
and not doing as you please or speaking idle words, 14 then you will find your joy in the LORD,
and I will cause you to ride on the heights of the land
and to feast on the inheritance of your father Jacob."
The mouth of the LORD has spoken.
Share my food, my home, my threads...
These are things I can do every day! I can make every day of my life a day I commit to the Lord! All my life for you, Lord!
I don't know about you, but I doubt God cares so much about when you take your sabbath as much as what you do during your sabbath and make a habit of it.
That's the message I get, anyway.
True Fasting
1 "Shout it aloud, do not hold back.
Raise your voice like a trumpet.
Declare to my people their rebellion
and to the house of Jacob their sins.
2 For day after day they seek me out;
they seem eager to know my ways,
as if they were a nation that does what is right
and has not forsaken the commands of its God.
They ask me for just decisions
and seem eager for God to come near them.
3 'Why have we fasted,' they say,
'and you have not seen it?
Why have we humbled ourselves,
and you have not noticed?'
"Yet on the day of your fasting, you do as you please
and exploit all your workers.
4 Your fasting ends in quarreling and strife,
and in striking each other with wicked fists.
You cannot fast as you do today
and expect your voice to be heard on high.
5 Is this the kind of fast I have chosen,
only a day for a man to humble himself?
Is it only for bowing one's head like a reed
and for lying on sackcloth and ashes?
Is that what you call a fast,
a day acceptable to the LORD ?
6 "Is not this the kind of fasting I have chosen:
to loose the chains of injustice
and untie the cords of the yoke,
to set the oppressed free
and break every yoke?
7 Is it not to share your food with the hungry
and to provide the poor wanderer with shelter—
when you see the naked, to clothe him,
and not to turn away from your own flesh and blood?
8 Then your light will break forth like the dawn,
and your healing will quickly appear;
then your righteousness [a] will go before you,
and the glory of the LORD will be your rear guard.
9 Then you will call, and the LORD will answer;
you will cry for help, and he will say: Here am I.
"If you do away with the yoke of oppression,
with the pointing finger and malicious talk,
10 and if you spend yourselves in behalf of the hungry
and satisfy the needs of the oppressed,
then your light will rise in the darkness,
and your night will become like the noonday.
11 The LORD will guide you always;
he will satisfy your needs in a sun-scorched land
and will strengthen your frame.
You will be like a well-watered garden,
like a spring whose waters never fail.
12 Your people will rebuild the ancient ruins
and will raise up the age-old foundations;
you will be called Repairer of Broken Walls,
Restorer of Streets with Dwellings.
13 "If you keep your feet from breaking the Sabbath
and from doing as you please on my holy day,
if you call the Sabbath a delight
and the LORD's holy day honorable,
and if you honor it by not going your own way
and not doing as you please or speaking idle words, 14 then you will find your joy in the LORD,
and I will cause you to ride on the heights of the land
and to feast on the inheritance of your father Jacob."
The mouth of the LORD has spoken.
Share my food, my home, my threads...
These are things I can do every day! I can make every day of my life a day I commit to the Lord! All my life for you, Lord!
I don't know about you, but I doubt God cares so much about when you take your sabbath as much as what you do during your sabbath and make a habit of it.
That's the message I get, anyway.
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And why do you want to put yourself back into bondage, under the law? Jesus said that he who loves God with all his heart, soul and mind and loves his neighbour as himself has fulfilled the "whole of the law".
Paul on the other hand says that he who follows the law is under a curse, for by the law no man shall be saved. Furthermore, Paul says that he who puts himself under the law is obliged to follow the entire law. That means, all of the myriad of requirements of the Mosaic law as in Leviticus, Deuteronomy etc.
Why don't you accept that Christians live by the new and "better" covenant? And do away with the law and live by the grace of Jesus.
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We are in the eternal Sabbath rest of God's people so it doesnt apply at all to the New Covenant. The Sabbath was made for man in the same way that we are made by our Redeemer. It is our intrinsic chief end to be with Him and dwell in Him. Christ is Lord of the Sabbath, that is certain, and we who dwell in Him rest from our works and live in faith asnew creations. If we are working our own works, then we are not living the faith, and therefore every minute of everyday is the Sabbath for us so I don't see the whole fuss over the issue. We follow the Commandments in their totality, as Christ and the Holy Spirit has made clear to us, by dwelling in Him and assuming His righteousness over our own!
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