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Because the scripture clearly says that the laws and festivals instituted through Moses, pointing forward to Christ, were fulfilled in Him and no longer necessary. The ten Commandments were instituted before sin and so have no fulfilment, they are eternal.
well, then how do you account for the fact that God makes mention of the exodus in the commandments, are you trying to imply to me that the exodus was before sin as well, of course I know you are not you are too intelligent for that
if God mentions the exodus he authored "this version" of the commandments after the exodus... which makes you theory void...
Did God call the seventh day holy before Exodus?
Did Eve disobey her Father, did she covet, did she steal all befoe Exodus?
Did Cane commit murder before Exodus?
Was Joseph worried about committing adultery before Exodus?
Remember, the Law was written in stone because of transgression. In other words, people were violating these principles before Exodus so must of had some form prior to Exodus.
... and I know you are dumb enough...
I told you once not use to that cheap manipulative force, doesnt make you any more convincing...
well, then how do you account for the fact that God makes mention of the exodus in the commandments, are you trying to imply to me that the exodus was before sin as well, of course I know you are not you are too intelligent for that
if God mentions the exodus he authored "this version" of the commandments after the exodus... which makes you theory void...
It isn't manipulative language John although I am sorry of you took it that way. I wasn't being derogatory when I said that I knew they were intelligent for I truly believe they are. It's a response to people that keep dragging the decalogue into the ceremonial side of the Jewish economy when they know the difference between the two. It is a misleading canard to lump the moral law in with the statutes, festivals and ordinances.
...would you as a non-israelite consider yourself addressed by a law that reminds your being rescued out of Egypt??
Jesus asked the people "Which of you accuses me of sin?" Had He been a sabbath breaker that would have been a clear violation of the law and they would have easily pointed that out. Also, the new covenant wasn't until Christ died. Had Christ violated the law in any way, shape, or form, He would not have been our Perfect Sacrifice.Since I am not under the law I do not concern myself with it. Jesus broke the Sabbath. John 5:18.
How is knowledge of something a law?We all have the knowledge of good & evil since Adam. That was Abraham's and mankind's law.
There weren't any Jews in Ex 16.Sabbath doesn't show up in scripture until Exodus 16 and it was for the Jews.
Also see Deut. 5:1-3 and 7:11.
The only vow I made was to trust God. I'll leave all the extra vows up to you.
... no offence whatsoever
I was just reffering to the fact that if the 10 commandment had an universal background (meaning applicable and logical for everyone) they would have been stated differently. Why would God mention the Exodus if this law was applicable to each and every one back then, even the ones that didnt partake the exodus. Or would you as a non-israelite consider yourself addressed by a law that reminds your being rescued out of Egypt??
It isn't manipulative language John although I am sorry of you took it that way. I wasn't being derogatory when I said that I knew they were intelligent for I truly believe they are. It's a response to people that keep dragging the decalogue into the ceremonial side of the Jewish economy when they know the difference between the two. It is a misleading canard to lump the moral law in with the statutes, festivals and ordinances.
The scriptures don't say Jesus broke the sabbath. The scirptures show Jesus being accused of breaking the sabbath by the Pharisees. There's a difference.Stryder06
So when it says Jesus broke the Sabbath what it really means is Jesus did not break the Sabbath. Cool. This opens up all kinds of new ways of interpretation.
Que?Doctrine always trumps scripture.......Always.
God says Abraham kept His law, statutes, and commandments. Care to explain what laws, statutes, and commandments Abraham kept?There is no evidence of the 10C or a Sabbath before Moses. Just some reference to right and wrong standards of behavior which mankind has had since the fall. It is doctrine that says the 10C were in place from the beginning and doctrine always rules.
God says he sent the flood because the earth was filled with violence. No mention of any commandments being broken.
All Gen. 2 tells us is that God blessed the 7th day. Not the 14th, 21st, 28th, 35th etc. Anything more than that is an assumption. You do not see observance of every 7th day until Moses.
Passover was instituted as a result of sin the seventh day Sabbath wasn't.
I would agree.
However, the point was that things which were given to Israel before Sinai were placed in the Sinai law. So the presence of the Sabbath in Exodus 16, before Sinai is not significant in the way he stated as a proof for his position.
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