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Um - the Sermon on the Mount was all about the 10 commandments.Jesus was not spreading the "gospel" of the ten commandments, and neither were the apostles.
Oddly, not one mention of the Sabbath in Matthew 5 or even Matthew 6. Perhaps because *Jesus* fulfilled the purpose of the Sabbath
That would be covered under "things polluted by idols."
That one is "or blood," which if taken from the Noachide laws reads "shedding of innocent blood." (murder)
"Blood" and "strangled" are 2 separate issues.2. Abstain from blood and things strangled - is about food laws in the OT against eating food with blood.
Um - the Sermon on the Mount was all about the 10 commandments.
"Blood" and "strangled" are 2 separate issues.
If blood was about food, the strangled part would have it covered already. .
Jesus only elaborated on nine of the ten commandments in his sermon on the mount. .
I was referring to the Noachide laws; those 4 bear a striking resemblance and they were being formulated about that time.Is there any place in all of scripture where "abstain from blood is not tied to - "from things strangled"??
Only if you believe that all meat that is served is actually Kosher and drained from blood - since it was not strangled and most people like me would not take that as a starting point since the meat I see that is "rare" is often covered in blood ... and there are other forms as well. For example "blood pudding" comes from animals that were not strangled.
There is no text in the Bible were "abstain from blood" means "do not murder" - abstain is very specific.
I was referring to the Noachide laws; those 4 bear a striking resemblance and they were being formulated about that time.
Sermon on the mount does not address
1. Do not take God's name in vain.
2. Love God with all your heart
3. Do not bow before or promise to serve idols
Matthew 5:33-37
"33 “Again, you have heard that it was said to those of ancient times, ‘You shall not swear falsely, but carry out the vows you have made to the Lord.’
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Sermon on the mount does not address
1. Do not take God's name in vain.
Exodus 20:16 -- do not lie. "Do not bear false witness" ... do not take an oath in court and lie. Do not promise God something and then fail to do it.
An entirely different command from
Exodus 20:7 "do not take God's name in vain"
Taking God's name in vain is a misuse of God's name. Swearing a false oath in God's name is a misuse of his name.
However, if you wish to believe that it is yet another of the ten commandments that Jesus did not consider important enough to address, then interpret as you wish of course.
An interesting passage related to this discussion. I've emphasized a few words.
Matthew 19:16-26
"16 Then someone came to him and said, “Teacher, what good deed must I do to have eternal life?” 17 And he said to him, “Why do you ask me about what is good? There is only one who is good. If you wish to enter into life, keep the commandments.” 18 He said to him, “Which ones?” And Jesus said, “You shall not murder; You shall not commit adultery; You shall not steal; You shall not bear false witness; 19 Honor your father and mother; also, You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” 20 The young man said to him, “I have kept all these; what do I still lack?” 21 Jesus said to him, “If you wish to be perfect, go, sell your possessions, and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; then come, follow me.” 22 When the young man heard this word, he went away grieving, for he had many possessions.
23 Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Truly I tell you, it will be hard for a rich person to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.” 25 When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astounded and said, “Then who can be saved?” 26 But Jesus looked at them and said, “For mortals it is impossible, but for God all things are possible.”"
Note that even here there is nothing mentioned about observing the Sabbath, even when it comes to mortal attempts to earn salvation....to achieve perfection.
Law vs. Grace.
Claiming to be a Christian but not living like one is a misuse of God's name. There are a lot of ways to draw tangential topics into this.
But we are looking for verbatim quotes of at least part of the text as in the case "do not commit adultery" quoted several times or "Honor your father and mother" quoted several times but never quoted in full in the NT.
The Sabbath commandment is quoted in just that same way - yet like the 5th commandment also 'not quoted in full'
by contrast "do not take God's name in vain" is not quoted at all in the NT.
I don't claim that the lack of a verbatim quote means Jesus did not consider it important. Rather I claim that the detail is meaningless ... entirely meaningless. Jesus never said "consider all of scripture deleted except for the parts I quote and then cause to be written in the NT". All that sort of "made up stuff" is meaningless.
So I take the command to not take God's name in vain - point to the irrefutable detail that it is in fact "never quoted" in the NT -- and then appeal to the fact that this detail "does not matter" in terms of our obligation because God never said "Delete whatever I said before --- unless I repeat it again".
And I would point out that a great many scholars on the other side of the Sabbath-vs-Sunday debate from where I stand - agree with me that ALL TEN of the Ten Commandments are included in the moral law of God applicable to all mankind -- and what gets "repeated" here or there does not change that fact for them or for me.
In Christ,
Bob
There is a wonderful example where Christ does not mention "Love God with all your heart" or "Do not take God's name in vain" or "do not covet" or "do not worship false God's". The first 4 commandments dealing with man's duty to God -- are entirely missing from Matthew 19.
We can not use that fact to imagine to ourselves that God was ok with worshiping false gods and taking his name in vain... and I think we all know it and agree to that detail.
Unlike observing the Sabbath, worshiping false gods and taking God's name in vain were at least addressed *somewhere* in the New Testament...numerous times, in fact, and even by Jesus himself. Observing the Sabbath is the *only* one of the ten commandments noticeably missing from the New Testament, likely because it was the sign of the covenant made between God and the Israelites at Horeb and not with anyone else, and the purpose of that covenant was fulfilled on the cross. The *spirit* of the Sabbath continues in Jesus as it is through *him* that we are given rest.
You seemed to have missed a lot of scripture from the NT provided below. Hope it helps.....
Serious? Your looking for the word "Commandment"in the verse before you will believe so my scripture that uses the word "Sabbath" that you just said was not mentioned in the NT not to mention all the scriptures that refer directly to the 10 commandments of which the Sabbath commandment is the 4th? I think anyone reading the above can come to an intelligent decision so we will leave it there for all to see.You've copied and pasted these same verses over and over and yet there is still no commandment in any of them that NT believers are to observe the Sabbath. It wasn't there the first time and it still isn't there now.
Serious? Your looking for the word "Commandment"in the verse before you will believe so my scripture that uses the word "Sabbath" that you just said was not mentioned in the NT not to mention all the scriptures that refer directly to the 10 commandments? I think anyone reading the above can come to an intelligent decision so we will leave it there for all to see.
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