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Personally communication has its problems in expression. I doubt very seriously they were taking into account people with opposing beliefs when they wrote their confession. These days we must think about our words much differently.The OP said this
Which is a quote right out of section 22 of the BCF
[FONT="] post #152 shows the BCF language about the "CHANGE" in section 22 to the still binding 4th commandment[/FONT]. (Context is everything)
[FONT="]And here #150 -- with an example of D.L. Moody affirming those very same 7 points
And of Course here - #67 is where the Baptist Confession of faith affirms those very same 7 points regarding all TEN of the TEN Commandments including the 4th.
It has been explained dozens of times.
in Christ,
Bob
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QFT!!!Sanctuary is pretty abominable, how can anyone stand before the judgment seat of Christ without Christ's intercession? Surely it is none, none is righteous, no, not one; no one understands; no one seeks for God. All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good, not even one.
Yet Ellen in all her wisdom says that her flock will be able to stand without Christ, oh the holding up for contempt and trampling underfoot the sacrifice of the Son of God.
QFT!!!
The OP said Christian Sabbath..
So as to not derail my Confessional thread, this will be a thread to talk about the nature of the Christian Sabbath as it is derived from Scripture and espoused in the 1689 Baptist Confession of Faith.From the beginning of the world to the resurrection of Christ this was the last day of the week, and from the resurrection of Christ it was changed to the first day of the week and called the Lords Day. This is to be continued until the end of the world as the Christian Sabbath, the observation of the last day of the week having been abolished. (2LBCF 22.7)
Personally communication has its problems in expression. I doubt very seriously they were taking into account people with opposing beliefs
Personally communication has its problems in expression. I doubt very seriously they were taking into account people with opposing beliefs when they wrote their confession. These days we must think about our words much differently.
You've seen the testimony of the Law itself,
you rely on uninspired extra-Biblical sources .
You've seen the testimony of the Law itself, and have shown you rely on uninspired extra-Biblical sources to form an argument that is essentially a straw man. That's waging war on God's Law.
You just proved my point. Instead of the Law, you left it for "BCF language" that can't be reconciled with the Law. You're waging your own personal war on God's Law.I have seen what the Bible says on this subject -which is why we have this posted here.
[FONT="]And now we have this post #152 where the BCF language
Fair enough. Since I don't accept the Baptist Confession of Faith as an authority, you can continue your discussion with others who do. However, Progmonk's recent post quoted this source to affirm their adoption of Sunday observance in lieu of the Sabbath, and if the BCF is an authority you appeal to, then this is what you have adopted.Here is a great example of where it would have paid you to rely less on your imagination and more on the actual details in the discussion. Hint: This thread and the OP is entirely about the statements in the Baptist Confession of Faith. It is not my thread or my choice of topic. Progmonk did that for me -- I am not complaining about his choice of a topic - only his actions in abandoning the subject of his own thread.
you rely on uninspired extra-Biblical sources .
BobRyan said:Here is a great example of where it would have paid you to rely less on your imagination and more on the actual details in the discussion. Hint: This thread and the OP is entirely about the statements in the Baptist Confession of Faith. It is not my thread or my choice of topic. Progmonk did that for me -- I am not complaining about his choice of a topic - only his actions in abandoning the subject of his own thread.
Some of the details in this discussion are so obvious that even pro-Sunday sources admit to them.
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Ex 20:11
11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.
Gen 2:3
3 Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made.
in the texts above we "see" that it is the Gen 2:3 details "alone" that form the holy, binding, nature of the Sabbath Commandment in the word "THEREFORE" as God uses it in Ex 20:11.
BCF - Sabbath in Eden -
BCF section 22 - points 7 and 8
- As it is the law of nature that in general a proportion of time, by God's appointment, should be set apart for the worship of God, so He has given in His Word a positive, moral and perpetual commandment, binding upon all men, in all ages to this effect. He has particularly appointed one day in seven for a Sabbath to be kept holy for Him. From the beginning of the world to the resurrection of Christ this was the last day of the week, and from the resurrection of Christ it was changed to the first day of the week and called the Lord's Day. This is to be continued until the end of the world as the Christian Sabbath, the observation of the last day of the week having been abolished.
- The Sabbath is kept holy to the Lord by those who, after the necessary preparation of their hearts and prior arranging of their common affairs, observe all day a holy rest from their own works[FONT="], [/FONT]
[FONT="]Section 19[/FONT]
- God gave to Adam a law of universal obedience which was written in his heart, and He gave him very specific instruction about not eating the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. By this Adam and all his descendants were bound to personal, total, exact, and perpetual obedience, being promised life upon the fulfilling of the law, and threatened with death upon the breach of it. At the same time Adam was endued with power and ability to keep it.
- The same law that was first written in the heart of man continued to be a perfect rule of righteousness after the Fall, and was delivered by God upon Mount Sinai in the TEN COMMANDMENTS, and written in two tables, the first four containing our duty towards God, and the other six, our duty to man.
- Besides this law, commonly called the moral law,God was pleased do give the people of Israel ceremonial laws containing several typical ordinances. These ordinances were partly about their worship, and in them Christ was prefigured along with His attributes and qualities, His actions, His sufferings and His benefits. These ordinances also gave instructions about different moral duties. All of these ceremonial laws were appointed only until the time of reformation, when Jesus Christ the true Messiah and the only lawgiver, Who was furnished with power from the Father for this end, cancelled them and took them away.
Even the 1689 version points to Gen 2:3 as the start of the Sabbath Commandment.
1689 Section 19 (A few examples)
THE LAW OF GOD
19.1 God gave to Adam a law of universal obedience written in his heart,1 and a specific precept not to eat the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil.2 By this he bound him and all his descendants to personal, total, exact, and perpetual obedience. God promised life on fulfilling it, and threatened death on breaching it, and he endued him with power and ability to keep it.3
(1) Gen 1:27; Ecc 7:29; Rom 2:12a,14-15
(2) Gen 2:16-17
(3) Gen 2:16-17; Rom 10:5; Gal 3:10,12
19.2 The same law that was first written in the human heart continued to be a perfect rule of righteousness after the fall.1 It was delivered by God upon Mount Sinai in TEN commandments (written in two tables) the first four containing our duty towards God, and the other six our duty to our fellow beings.3
(1) For the Fourth Commandment: Gen 2:3; Exo 16; Gen 7:4; 8:10,12. For the Fifth Commandment: Gen 37:10. For the Sixth Commandment: Gen 4:3-15. For the Seventh Commandment: Gen 12:17. For the Eighth Commandment: Gen 31:30; 44:8. For the Ninth Commandment: Gen 27:12. For the Tenth Commandment: Gen 6:2; 13:10-11
(2) Rom 2:12a,14-15
(3) Exo 32:15-16; 34:4,28; Deu 10:4
Fair enough. Since I don't accept the Baptist Confession of Faith as an authority, you can continue your discussion
However, Progmonk's recent post quoted this source to affirm their adoption of Sunday observance in lieu of the Sabbath,
Why would I appeal to the BCF as an authority??and if the BCF is an authority you appeal to, then this is what you have adopted.
You just proved my point. Instead of the Law, you left it for "BCF language" that can't be reconciled with the Law.
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