Rules for the new progressive section

[reddogs]

I see. Thankfully, I don't have that problem. At least, not yet.

Well sometimes 'no java' means 'no flow' so have a cup......

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

I am officially making the motion that we have ONE rule here, No flaming. Which means we can discuss any and everything. I would also like to see maybe a procedure under that one rule saying in effect that before a person pushes the button to report a comment, that they at least attempt to talk to the person they think is flaming privately first. Perhaps its a misunderstanding that can be cleared up without a mod getting involved. Then if resolution is not possible privately, report the person.... can't we do that?

Two rules: no flaming and no baiting/provoking/harassing or inciting others to flame. If a person says STOP IT we BACK OFF. Doesn't mean you have to "back down" (e.g. change your position or view to accomodate); it merely suggests we all recognize when the line on "shoving down the throat" has been crossed and cease to cross it any further at that point.

 

[sentipente]

Two rules: no flaming and no baiting/provoking/harassing or inciting others to flame. If a person says STOP IT we BACK OFF. Doesn't mean you have to "back down" (e.g. change your position or view to accomodate); it merely suggests we all recognize when the line on "shoving down the throat" has been crossed and cease to cross it any further at that point.

Agreed

 

[StormyOne]

Two rules: no flaming and no baiting/provoking/harassing or inciting others to flame. If a person says STOP IT we BACK OFF. Doesn't mean you have to "back down" (e.g. change your position or view to accomodate); it merely suggests we all recognize when the line on "shoving down the throat" has been crossed and cease to cross it any further at that point.

I can live with that.....

 

[RC_NewProtestants]

Thinking about the resent trend of complaints and reporting by the Traditional SDA subgroup it might be best for us to create rules which restrict their reporting tendencies in the Progressive forum.

I see Night's desire to be free from their harassment in the Progressive forum yet I think we must offer a type of Adventism that is not restrictive in area's of inquiry or differing points of view. Thus we want the forum open to people capable of reasonable dialog.

So I think we should restrict the use of the Report button to those who are not known members of the Traditional SDA subforum.

Something like:

In order to freely express views on the Progressive SDA Sub-forum those known members of the Traditional SDA forum shall not have any report violations addressed by moderators if said report is about a post in the Progressive SDA sub-forum.

What do you think?

 

[StormyOne]

Thinking about the resent trend of complaints and reporting by the Traditional SDA subgroup it might be best for us to create rules which restrict their reporting tendencies in the Progressive forum.

I see Night's desire to be free from their harassment in the Progressive forum yet I think we must offer a type of Adventism that is not restrictive in area's of inquiry or differing points of view. Thus we want the forum open to people capable of reasonable dialog.

So I think we should restrict the use of the Report button to those who are not known members of the Traditional SDA subforum.

Something like:

In order to freely express views on the Progressive SDA Sub-forum those known members of the Traditional SDA forum shall not have any report violations addressed by moderators if said report is about a post in the Progressive SDA sub-forum.

What do you think?

hmmmm possibly.... so what you are suggesting is that a TSDA cannot come to the progressive subforum, interact in a discussion, read something they don't like and then report it?

 

[RC_NewProtestants]

hmmmm possibly.... so what you are suggesting is that a TSDA cannot come to the progressive subforum, interact in a discussion, read something they don't like and then report it?

Well not quite as the can come to the Progressive sub-forum, they can interact in a discussion, they can also read what they don't like but they cannot report it. In other words they would have no standing in regards to the reporting of violations real or imagined.

 

[StormyOne]

Well not quite as the can come to the Progressive sub-forum, they can interact in a discussion, they can also read what they don't like but they cannot report it. In other words they would have no standing in regards to the reporting of violations real or imagined.

fair enough.... i could live with that too...

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Something like:

In order to freely express views on the Progressive SDA Sub-forum those known members of the Traditional SDA forum shall not have any report violations addressed by moderators if said report is about a post in the Progressive SDA sub-forum.

What do you think?

Excellent idea. Wording is a little awkward but the idea is great.

 

[Sophia7]

I'm not sure if we're even allowed to make that kind of a rule. That may go beyond the scope of our autonomy. Anyway, if a Traditional comes in and reports something that's not a rule violation, that should be pretty easy for the mods to determine. I don't really think it's necessary to limit what they can report.

 

[Sophia7]

Anyway, if a Traditional comes in and reports something that's not a rule violation, that should be pretty easy for the mods to determine.

On second thought, I just read some of the reports, and I think they're ruling some things violations that are not violations at all. Still, I don't think we have the power to make a rule that prohibits certain groups from reporting things.

 

[RC_NewProtestants]

I'm not sure if we're even allowed to make that kind of a rule. That may go beyond the scope of our autonomy. Anyway, if a Traditional comes in and reports something that's not a rule violation, that should be pretty easy for the mods to determine. I don't really think it's necessary to limit what they can report.

Yes it might be hard to work into the mod's way of doing things but as it is now they will post a report over something that is meant to be humorous. They often use reports as a means of harassment. Such as recently happened to me when I said to red that I am only an amateur psychologist but he may have delusions of grandeur consult your local doctor.

Apparently that was bad enough to need to be edited out because apparently amateur psychologists are real and delusions of grandeur is also a real psychological diagnostic entity. Of course neither of those things are true but apparently to the humor impaired it is a serious flame of some sort.

But I do think that even if a TSDA does not interact on the Progressive sub-forum they will likely still make reports particularly along the lines of something being a flame against TSDA or against the Adventist church. so we should probably think of those possibilities now as we do know the TSDA's tend to be report happy.

 

[Sophia7]

Yes, some TSDAs (not all) do tend to be trigger-happy with the report button. Mods should be able to tell the difference between something that one person takes offense at (though it may not be a rule violation) and an actual flame. Maybe that's too much to hope for right now.

 

[sentipente]

It is obvious that some TSDAs are not only offended by progressive thought, they also would like to legislate humor and general English usage that is beyond literal usage out of existence.

(I edited this post from "the TSDAs" to "some TSDAs" because someone would certainly have objected to "the TSDAs" as being an attack on ALL TSDAs.")