Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay $148 million in defamation trial

[SimplyMe]

Giuliani has been ordered to pay $148 million in damages to both Ruby Freeman and Wandrea "Shaye" Moss. Of course, since Rudy apparently can't even to afford to pay his lawyers, it will be interesting how he'll be able to pay the damages in this case. The breakdown of the amounts: $16.171 million to Ruby Freeman for defamation, $16.998 million to Shaye Moss for defamation, $20 million to each for emotional distress, and $75 million in punitive damages.

 

[JustOneWay]

Cha-ching

 

[Say it aint so]

Rudy Giuliani is kind of a real time Greek Tragedy, where the mighty fall suffering from their own hubris.

 

[Brihaha]

Maybe other people can learn from Rudy's embarrassing and illegal behavior. It is refreshing to see our courts mete out some real justice occasionally.

 

[DaisyDay]

Some talking heads mentioned that he owns a condo in Manhattan, a mansion in the Hamptons and nine other properties. Freeman and Moss may do okay financially. Too often a gigantic cash infusion can lead people to ruin. I hope they'll be okay.

Here's a blast from the past, a profile of Rudy in 2018: How Rudy Giuliani Turned Into Trump’s Clown

 

[Vambram]

The extremely high amount of the payment in this ruling is yet another example of a weaponized "justice" system.

 

[Hans Blaster]

The extremely high amount of the payment in this ruling is yet another example of a weaponized "justice" system.

I'm not sure what this has to do with anything. Civil cases against those who have harmed you are part of our legal regime. Anyone who has been harmed can bring a suit.

 

[Brihaha]

The extremely high amount of the payment in this ruling is yet another example of a weaponized "justice" system.

It has to be an absurdly high punishment, else it would have zero deterrent effect on other spoiled elites.

 

[Say it aint so]

The extremely high amount of the payment in this ruling is yet another example of a weaponized "justice" system.

The man literally went out after his lawyer admitted the defamation, and did it again.
It was a self inflicted weaponization, and to me the amount is not enough for what he and Trump put these women through.

 

[Bradskii]

Giuliani has been ordered to pay $148 million in damages to both Ruby Freeman and Wandrea "Shaye" Moss. Of course, since Rudy apparently can't even to afford to pay his lawyers, it will be interesting how he'll be able to pay the damages in this case. The breakdown of the amounts: $16.171 million to Ruby Freeman for defamation, $16.998 million to Shaye Moss for defamation, $20 million to each for emotional distress, and $75 million in punitive damages.

I can't tell you exactly what I think of Giuliani as I enjoy posting in the forum. But those figures are ridiculous for defamation. Bear in mind someone not a million miles from Giuliani got pinged about 3% of that for what the judge said was effectively rape.

 

[Ana the Ist]

The extremely high amount of the payment in this ruling is yet another example of a weaponized "justice" system.

It seems a bit excessive but I don't actually know what she had to deal with.

 

[SavedByGrace3]

Wow... I need to find someone to defame me! Does anyone want to volunteer?

 

[Ana the Ist]

I can't tell you exactly what I think of Giuliani as I enjoy posting in the forum. But those figures are ridiculous for defamation. Bear in mind someone not a million miles from Giuliani got pinged about 3% of that for what the judge said was effectively rape.

Alex Jones got fined billions, didn't he?

For defamation?

 

[Ana the Ist]

Wow... I need to find someone to defame me! Does anyone want to volunteer?

Can we split the proceeds?

 

[Ana the Ist]

The man literally went out after his lawyer admitted the defamation, and did it again.
It was a self inflicted weaponization, and to me the amount is not enough for what he and Trump put these women through.

What happened to them? As a result of the defamation I mean...

 

[Ana the Ist]

It has to be an absurdly high punishment, else it would have zero deterrent effect on other spoiled elites.

Wait...what?

You're saying she doesn't deserve that much, but he should be fined that much because of his wealth?

 

[Brihaha]

Wait...what?

You're saying she doesn't deserve that much, but he should be fined that much because of his wealth?

No, I am saying it is impossible to quantify in $dollars$ the amount of suffering Mr Giuliani cruelly inflicted on these women. Those people in Donald's circle are not seemingly deterred by any amount of money they may be ordered to compensate their victims. I wouldn't be offended if this guy was ordered to pay them $500,000,000.

I think the punitive damages may be reduced in Rudy's appeal tho.

 

[Bradskii]

Wow... I need to find someone to defame me! Does anyone want to volunteer?

Check your PMs.

Only joking...

 

[Bradskii]

No, I am saying it is impossible to quantify in $dollars$ the amount of suffering Mr Giuliani cruelly inflicted on these women. Those people in Donald's circle are not seemingly deterred by any amount of money they may be ordered to compensate their victims. I wouldn't be offended if this guy was ordered to pay them $500,000,000.

I think the punitive damages may be reduced in Rudy's appeal tho.

It does seem to be entirely arbitrary. I can understand that if you think the defendent is a piece of dirt that you still must determine guilt based on the evidence and not his or her character. But after that, what is the guidance for determining what is in effect the sentence?

 

[Ana the Ist]

No, I am saying it is impossible to quantify in $dollars$ the amount of suffering Mr Giuliani cruelly inflicted on these women.

You don't really believe that do you?

Those people in Donald's circle are not seemingly deterred by any amount of money they may be ordered to compensate their victims. I wouldn't be offended if this guy was ordered to pay them $500,000,000.

Really?

I think the punitive damages may be reduced in Rudy's appeal tho.

Probably but I don't recall what happened to the women and didn't pay attention to the trial. I thought they were accused of engaging in election fraud....wrongly, obviously....what sort of damage were they claiming from that?