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Rudd Pushes Equal Rights For Homosexuals

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This is the latest from Australia.

The Advertiser/Sunday Mail

April 30, 2008 09:40am

Rudd pushes equal rights for homosexuals - but not gay marriage

GAY people will gain equality in a wide range of areas under new laws - but the right to legally wed is still off the agenda.
Legislation to remove same-sex discrimination from a wide range of Commonwealth laws would be introduced in the winter sittings of parliament, federal Attorney-General Robert McClelland said today.

"The changes will provide for equality of treatment under a wide range of Commonwealth laws between same-sex and opposite-sex de facto couples," he said.

Areas to be changed include tax, superannuation, social security, health, aged care, veterans entitlements, workers compensation and employment entitlements.
Mr McClelland said the changes were long overdue and followed a landmark report of the Human Rights and Equal Opportunity Commission that focused on financial and work-related legislation.

"In some areas, such as social security, tax and veterans affairs, the reforms will be phased in to allow time for couples to adjust their finances, and for administrative arrangements to be implemented," he said.

All the changes are expected to be implemented by mid-2009.
But Mr McClelland said the Government remained firm on its stance against gay marriage.

"We regard marriage as being between a man and a woman. That's confirmed in our platform," he said.

"Equally, our platform recognises that it would be desirable to have a uniform national standard for legal recognition of same-sex relationships as they have, for instance, in Tasmania.

"The register-style model, we regard as appropriate."

The Opposition said it supported the changes in principle but would not support gay marriage, gay adoption or gay IVF.

"As a matter of principle we believe that no Australian should pay a dollar more in tax or receive a dollar less in social security support by virtue of their sexuality," Leader Brendan Nelson said on ABC radio.

"While we will steadfastly oppose gay marriage, gay adoption and gay IVF, we will carefully scrutinise the proposals being put up by the Government, and if they are affordable and reasonable we will certainly be providing support to them."

Australian Coalition for Equality spokesperson Rodney Croome welcomed the changes.

"The recognition of same-sex de facto couples is long overdue and will bring Australian national law into line with all Australia's states and territories and many other western nations," Mr Croome said.

He called for continued pressure on the Government to ensure changes were comprehensive.

"Reform must extend to all federal family entitlements including Family Court access, and it must ensure formally recognised civil partners in Tasmania and Victoria have full federal entitlements.

He said it was deeply disappointing that the Government was not prepared to accept equality in marriage.

" But I look forward to same-sex de facto law reform rekindling the debate on why full legal and social equality is needed".
 

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This truly isn't a "Christian" philosophy or ethics issue. It may be a philosophy or ethics issue of the world, but Christians are pilgrims here and are not of the world, but of the Kingdom of God, as we have been saved and separated out of the world and unto God, by the redeeming power of Christ's shed blood and by the power of His resurrection, that passes us from death unto eternal life. All Christians know that God has condemned homosexual practices regardless of whether they are committed by males or females. The concerns of this life are temporary and fleeting. As children of God our focus is beyond this present world and onto the eternal things of God.

 
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All Christians know that God has condemned homosexual practices regardless of whether they are committed by males or females.

My dear sister in Christ,

May I respectfully request that you not engage to say what "all Christians know" when Christians have been actively disagreeing with you about your stances on such issues for months. Many thanks.
 
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My dear Polycarp,

You may make such a request, but I will not honor such a one.
The Word of God is the authority of the Christian Church.

If one comes speaking on the authority of another, we are to reject
that which is being spoken. We are to
cast down vain imaginations,
and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God,
and bring into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ.
(2 Corinthians 10:5)

Any Christian who preaches other that what is written or in opposition
to what is written, will be ultimately answerable to God for that,
but in the meantime, the truth must still go forth despite it and

correction must still be presented
regardless of whether such
Christians will heed or not.




 
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All Christians know that God has condemned homosexual practices regardless of whether they are committed by males or females. The concerns of this life are temporary and fleeting. As children of God our focus is beyond this present world and onto the eternal things of God.

I find it unfathomable to believe that a Being who created EVERYTHING there is in the cosmos would be actually offended by the consensual 'touching' by two people of the same gender but not offended by the consensual 'touching' by two people of opposite genders.

As Robbie the Robot of Lost In Space might say: "This does not compute."
 
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All Christians know that God has condemned homosexual practices regardless of whether they are committed by males or females.

This is merely an opinion and is most definitely false. The truth is NONE "know" such things. Each does the best they can and that's good enough.
 
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I find it unfathomable to believe that a Being who created EVERYTHING there is in the cosmos would be actually offended by the consensual 'touching' by two people of the same gender but not offended by the consensual 'touching' by two people of opposite genders.

As Robbie the Robot of Lost In Space might say: "This does not compute."

Smart fellow, that robot. People who insist on trying to bound the Architect of the Universe to the words of patriarchs of bronze age tribes diminish Him.
 
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Isaiah 2:8
Their land also is full of idols; they worship the work of
their own hands, that which their own fingers have made:

It is no wonder there is no moral compass as the humanism
that permeates through the mouths of some Christians
reveals that there is truly no evidence of a compass at all.
As each one is literally a "god unto themselves" making things
up as they go along that grieves the Holy Spirit of God but
makes the flesh full and satisfied and death is for dessert.


Romans 8:12-13


Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
For if you live after the flesh, you shall die: but if you through the Spirit do
mortify the deeds of the body, you shall live.

The Scriptures are the foundation of God's authority for the Christian Church.
It makes you wonder where that leaves those who deny the same Scripture
they learned about salvation from. :confused:
 
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All Christians know that God has condemned homosexual practices regardless of whether they are committed by males or females.

That's wrong, in two ways. First of all, not "all Christians" but "some Christians", and second, not "know" but "believe". :)
 
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This is fantastic news; exactly the sort of thing I hope to see in America.

It's coming. You see that train coming down that track? That's the Train of Freedom. You know it's long, long overdue; but look out it's comin' right on through!
 
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Only problem is the tunnels it has to get through on the way here. They've been in place for years and years and years; so long, in fact, that no one has bothered to question them. In the meantime, they've caved in.

The upcoming generation, however, isn't going to stand for it. Just a few more decades...
 
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