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Romans 9 study

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I am going to be setting a up a Bible study for a group I belong to, with the topic being Romans 9. None of these others is Reformed, and I would like to make it as middle ground as possible. Does anyone know of any resources in the area of organizing oneself to lead a study, etc?
 

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BTW....I think it might be kinda tough to start with Romans 9 if you havn't established the context by going through the rest of the book first. I think starting with Romans 9 would tend to contribute to the idea that Paul interrupts his discussion by inserting chapters 9-11 into his main thought which goes from chapter 8 to 12...which is not true.

I'm not saying you shouldn't focus on chapter nine. I just think that maybe you would be making the job harder.
 
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BTW....I think it might be kinda tough to start with Romans 9 if you havn't established the context by going through the rest of the book first. I think starting with Romans 9 would tend to contribute to the idea that Paul interrupts his discussion by inserting chapters 9-11 into his main thought which goes from chapter 8 to 12...which is not true.

I'm not saying you shouldn't focus on chapter nine. I just think that maybe you would be making the job harder.

I agree. I would start at the beginning. That's actually what I am doing with the book of Matthew for my Sunday school class.
 
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Well, Im not the one that usually leads, so I kinda thought I'd take the 1 study that I have and do that. Im open to other ideas if anyone has them on how else I can get a good like 1.5 hour study in and enlighten some folks to realize that we arent stuffy nay-sayers.
 
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Well, Im not the one that usually leads, so I kinda thought I'd take the 1 study that I have and do that. Im open to other ideas if anyone has them on how else I can get a good like 1.5 hour study in and enlighten some folks to realize that we arent stuffy nay-sayers.

It took me 4 1-hour Sunday school classes to compare the different views of election seen by the various groups in Romans 9...without getting into all of the other stuff in there!! I think we were six weeks total just on Romans 9. Trying to fit it all in one 1.5-hour will take some squeezing!

Maybe try one study on comparing Total Depravity/Radical Corruption to Automomous Free Will.

Let me think on this some more. When are you doing the study?
 
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I am going to be setting a up a Bible study for a group I belong to, with the topic being Romans 9. None of these others is Reformed, and I would like to make it as middle ground as possible. Does anyone know of any resources in the area of organizing oneself to lead a study, etc?

Good Day, Shadrach

Man that is a big undertaking in one study, God bless you.

Peace to u,

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Is the usual guy in a series already?

If not, I might be inclined to tackle what it means to be a man...leader in the home, love your wife, etc.

No hes not. Im trying to get a bit of a reformed bent added in and get people thinking. I already have to figure out what to use for his study this week, Eternal Security
 
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No hes not. Im trying to get a bit of a reformed bent added in and get people thinking. I already have to figure out what to use for his study this week, Eternal Security

Now there's a great topic!!

Do you know the difference between the Reformed doctrine of Perseverance of the Saints and the typical American evangelical view of 'once saved, always saved'?

Try these threads in Semper Reformanda...

http://www.christianforums.com/t2185913-osas-and-perseverance-of-the-saints-are-they-the-same.html

http://www.christianforums.com/t3102930-perseverance-of-the-saints.html

And try this...

Perseverance of the Saints does not mean "once saved always saved". This corruption of the doctrine has been popular in recent years, but has never been a true representation of the doctrine. "Once saved always saved" is more keenly given the name "Perseverance of the sinner" instead of "the saint". For it teaches that man can be saved by Christ and then sin habitually, do whatever he wants, and then still "persevere to the end". Perseverance of the saints does not teach this. Perseverance of the saints teaches that once God has renewed the heart of a sinner through the application of the redemption wrought by Christ upon the cross, he will continue to be saved and show forth the fruits of that salvation. The sinner perseveres because of Christ, but he continually shows himself as one who has been changed by Christ. God has saved the individual and will sanctify him until the end when he is ultimately glorified, and in heaven. It does not mean man has a license to sin. Those who think they have a license to sin are not changed and saved by grace. They are still in sin. Those who are saved by grace and changed, desire to show forth the fruits of that salvation. God motions the heart to good work, and continues that good work to the end.


...from this site, which contains links to many,, many sites on the topic...
http://www.monergism.com/thethreshold/articles/topic/perseverance.html

In fact, that monergism.com site is great for all aspects of Reformed theology.
 
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