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Paul wrote verses similar to part of Jesus’ “Sermon on the Mount,” Matthew 5 - 7.

Romans 12:14 Bless those who persecute you; bless, and don’t curse. 15 Rejoice with those who rejoice. Weep with those who weep. 16 Be of the same mind one toward another. Don’t set your mind on high things, but associate with the humble. Don’t be wise in your own conceits. 17 Repay no one evil for evil. Respect what is honorable in the sight of all men. 18 If it is possible, as much as it is up to you, be at peace with all men. 19 Don’t seek revenge yourselves, beloved, but give place to God’s wrath. For it is written, “Vengeance belongs to me; I will repay, says the Lord.” Deuteronomy 32:35 (World English Bible - public domain).

This emphasizes Jesus’ nonviolent ministry and God’s forgiving nature as preached by Paul.
 

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Oh yeh! God is so full of compassion. Which is why I sometimes feel like David, always knew how to manipulate the system. Look at the story where he killed Uriah> Also when he took a census against God's will. In the end each time, God would let him off the hook.
 
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David sinned and was willing to repent. That is why he is said to be a man after Gods own heart. If you are calling that manipulation I would say Davids guilty as charged.

14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land. (2Chron. 7:14)


(Isa. 2:1-5) mentions weapons would be done away at some point.

and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

The NT way of dealing with men is much different than during OT times. Being humble and teaching truth and obeying truth is what it's all about today.

Being at peace with all men (Rom. 12:18).


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Paul wrote verses similar to part of Jesus’ “Sermon on the Mount,” Matthew 5 - 7.

Romans 12:14 Bless those who persecute you; bless, and don’t curse. 15 Rejoice with those who rejoice. Weep with those who weep. 16 Be of the same mind one toward another. Don’t set your mind on high things, but associate with the humble. Don’t be wise in your own conceits. 17 Repay no one evil for evil. Respect what is honorable in the sight of all men. 18 If it is possible, as much as it is up to you, be at peace with all men. 19 Don’t seek revenge yourselves, beloved, but give place to God’s wrath. For it is written, “Vengeance belongs to me; I will repay, says the Lord.” Deuteronomy 32:35 (World English Bible - public domain).

This emphasizes Jesus’ nonviolent ministry and God’s forgiving nature as preached by Paul.

I like this part.

18 If it is possible, as much as it is up to you, be at peace with all men"

Interpretation : You are not to be someone's door mat.

"Meek" does not mean Weak.
 
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I like this part.

18 If it is possible, as much as it is up to you, be at peace with all men"

Interpretation : You are not to be someone's door mat.

"Meek" does not mean Weak.
A dictionary described meek as enduring injury with patience, not violent. I suppose it is in line with Jesus teaching them to turn the other cheek. It does not mean weak or lazy.

If someone offends me I may tell it to his or her face. I may not threaten harm.
 
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A dictionary described meek as enduring injury with patience, not violent. I suppose it is in line with Jesus teaching them to turn the other cheek. It does not mean weak or lazy.

If someone offends me I may tell it to his or her face. I may not threaten harm.

A secular dictionary is the wrong filter to use to use to try to understand spiritual words.

Christians are to be at peace with everyone, as much as possible, without falling into the trap of being Tolerant of what God does not Tolerate.
 
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A secular dictionary is the wrong filter to use to use to try to understand spiritual words.

Christians are to be at peace with everyone, as much as possible, without falling into the trap of being Tolerant of what God does not Tolerate.
Jesus tolerated being nailed to a cross. Who are you?
 
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