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Romans 11:26?

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How can all of Israel be saved when according to Dispensationalists and Christian Zionists, 2/3s of the Israelites are to die according to a future great tribulation?


Please learn what the Israel of God truly is, folks!
 

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You're right. There is no way to refer to "all" Israel without qualifying it. If you do this by finding a future moment, the first question is all the previous. It can't mean that.

It does not mean that because the original olive tree in ch 11 is not Israel. It is those who believe, no matter what century or ethnos. If it does not mean those who believe, then all of us who are Christians should be speeding off to modern Israel to become citizens. Legal, actual citizens.
 
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How can all of Israel be saved when according to Dispensationalists and Christian Zionists, 2/3s of the Israelites are to die according to a future great tribulation?

Two things..

1. This teaching is found in scripture concerning the coming Day of the LORD..

2. The answer is simple.. NOT all Israel is Israel.. that's like Bible 101.

Please learn what the Israel of God truly is, folks!

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You're Israel and the Israel over there that is hated by all its surrounding nations is just make believe Israel.
 
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The only way to qualify Israel is by faith. Once you qualify it by faith, it is open to all nations, as Eph 2B-3A say. Otherwise every Christian needs to go get citizenship papers from modern Israel.

The elephant in the room is corporeal Israel.

Bible 101 is not to read Rom 9A without Rom 9B. You've only read 9A and missed the point.
 
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You can't undo natural branches any more than you can undo your ancestry. So the lopping off is the believers who stand (or don't) by faith. If it is ancestry then all Christians have to high-tail it to Israel and become citizens. Paul was talking about those who believe as the original olive tree, not Israel. Cultivated, yes, but the tree is never the nation or descendancy of Israel.
 
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You can't undo natural branches any more than you can undo your ancestry. So the lopping off is the believers who stand (or don't) by faith. If it is ancestry then all Christians have to high-tail it to Israel and become citizens. Paul was talking about those who believe as the original olive tree, not Israel. Cultivated, yes, but the tree is never the nation or descendancy of Israel.

The ROOT is Christ...

Let's start there.. at the roots..

Everything grows from there..

Christ ALONE is the WAY, the TRUTH, and the LIFE..

CHRIST ALONE is DiVINE and we are de branches...

Right now... the nation of Israel has been CUT OFF... their HOUSE has been left DESOLATE..

Until the time comes when they shall say...

You know the words..
 
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What a sign the LORD gives Israel too huh... I mean how mind boggling is that..

They're a picture of the resurrection of dead.. as Jonah was..

For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead?

That God... He's something isn't He..

Who's going to top that one..
 
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Glad your acknowledging that the faith in Christ predates what Judaism thought were separate promises to it. That will clear up a lot. that is what Rom 4, 9, Gal 3 are saying.

the nation is not cut off right now. God does not do nations. 11:30+ says that's over with, and anyway it was just a conception of Judaism. Partial blindness alone tells us that He doesn't do whole nations at a time.

11:14 tells us why Paul is speaking the way he does. He is not prophesying. He is spurring, prodding, even embarrassing Israel (genetic) to work in the Gospel's mission like him; what a concept.

The problem with your Jonah analogy is how few of them (genetic) believed that faith not genetics/descendancy was what God was looking for. How few of them are the prophet to begin with.
 
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btw, in the overall sense of Rom 11 it is very helpful to realize that at the end of v25, "come in" means into the Israel that he introduced in ch 9. It smoothly connects with the next line, "all Israel" which is not genetic and subscribes to the historic message he explains.
 
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The ROOT is Christ...

Let's start there.. at the roots..

Everything grows from there..

Christ ALONE is the WAY, the TRUTH, and the LIFE..

CHRIST ALONE is DiVINE and we are de branches...

Right now... the nation of Israel has been CUT OFF... their HOUSE has been left DESOLATE..

Until the time comes when they shall say...

You know the words..

Yes we know the words.... WHEN THEY INDIVIDUALLY ACCEPT CHRIST AND ARE REGRAFTED INTO THE OLIVE TREE!
 
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How do premillennials, dispensationalists, & Christian Zionists reconcile Romans 11:26 with Zechariah 13:7-9 and Revelation 9:18?


The Shepherd Struck, the Sheep Scattered



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“Awake, sword, against my shepherd,
against the man who is close to me!”
declares the Lord Almighty.
“Strike the shepherd,
and the sheep will be scattered,
and I will turn my hand against the little ones.

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In the whole land,” declares the Lord,
“two-thirds will be struck down and perish;
yet one-third will be left in it.

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This third I will put into the fire;
I will refine them like silver
and test them like gold.
They will call on my name
and I will answer them;
I will say, ‘They are my people,’
and they will say, ‘The Lord is our God.’”


Revelation 9:18

By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.


Ironic that that they believe the state of Israel has such prophetic importance in order for all of Israel to be saved yet... at the same time believe 2/3s of the Jewry in Israel will perish and die?

And if they say All of Israel is to be saved during the Millennium... that still doesn't add up because there is a 7 year period prior to that that killed 2/3s of the Jewry.

Preterism and Futurism are only similar in one regard, we both believe in a holocaust of Jews... only we Preterists believe that holocaust has already been fulfilled in 70 AD whereas Futurists believe this holocaust is yet to come despite the fact THEY ALSO BELIEVE IN COMPLETE UTTER CONTRADICTION THAT ALL OF ISRAEL WILL BE SAVED TOO!

Talk about sowing confusion!
 
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Or maybe it's blessed is He who comes in the name of The Lord..

Then of course somebody who hates Israel wouldn't want that..

Behold, your house [the Second Temple] is left unto you desolate: and verily I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is he [Christ Jesus] that cometh in the name of the Lord.
 
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somebody who hates Israel

Your premise is wrong. God does not deal in whole ethnos at a time. Some of the ethnos do, but God never has. That is the premise of Rom 9-11, Gal 3-4.

And all those surrounding nations that hate them and swear to wipe them off the face of the earth are probably nothing really.. right..

You're definitely standing too close to the ELEPHANT interplanner...
 
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