Role of Mary

[Jay2004]

I am keeping this poll as simple as possible.
What is your view on Mary and her role..

 

[Lotar]

Can't she be both.

 

[Jay2004]

How can Mary, who is the mother of Christ who is God be just a mere woman??

 

[pgp_protector]

God was before Mary therefore She is Not the Mother of God(the Father)
Mary Was a mere woman Used By God, there by making her specal by God's power
Mary was the Mother of Jesus (God made Flesh)

 

[Jay2004]

God was before Mary therefore She is Not the Mother of God(the Father)
Mary Was a mere woman Used By God, there by making her specal by God's power
Mary was the Mother of Jesus (God made Flesh)

so you are saying she was mother of Jesus the human??
Jesus was both human and God so how can that be??

 

[artofwar]

so does this mean Joseph has just as much status as Mary in the Catholic church???

 

[TSIBHOD]

I'll go with Lotar, that she is both. She is "Mother of God" only in the fact that she was in the relationship of "mother" to Jesus, who was God. In this sense, Joseph was also the "Father of God," since he played the role of "father" to Jesus, who was God even when He was a little child.

Mary was not "mother" in the sense of "originator" of Jesus' divine side, so she was only "mother" of His divine side in that she was "mother" of all of Him in how she related to Him. In the same way today, someone can adopt a child and be its "mother," though not the "genetic predecessor" of that child. Mary was the "mother of God," but she was only the "predecessor" of Jesus' human part, not His divine part.

 

[artofwar]

so why is Mary seem to be exalted above every other and Joseph isnt? i see no prayers to joseph and doesnt the Catholic church deem Men above women ? then why is Mary above Joseph?

 

[AndTheyShoutedJesus]

Mary was only a mere VIRGIN woman who God chose to bring His son into this world. She can't be the mother of God because God has always existed. Whoever she isn't just a mere woman. She symbolized a close relationship to Jesus in which we should have or try to have. Its one thing to know God and another to love Him.

 

[RonBa]

so you are saying she was mother of Jesus the human??
Jesus was both human and God so how can that be??

Easy to understand.

Jesus did noit have humanity until He was born or as some may say when He was conceived.

We are getting into ground that gets very tricky so just take it easy.

 

[artofwar]

Just a question for you all?
who cares? does it make a difference in our christian walk?

 

[FreeinChrist]

Mary is a supreme example of a woman who obeyed God and who loved God.
I believe the term 'God-bearer' is important in that it needs to be clear that since the moment of conception , Jesus was 100% man and 100%God, the two natures combined.

I prefer the term Mary, mother of God Incarnate.

It is VERY important, when trying to argue that Mary isn't the mother of God that you aren't simply reacting to what appears to be excessive adoration of Mary, and in do so are denying the Incarnation at conception.

 

[FreeinChrist]

Just a question for you all?
who cares? does it make a difference in our christian walk?

It becomes important when discussing the nature of Jesus Christ.

 

[artofwar]

It becomes important when discussing the nature of Jesus Christ

How? how would it make a difference when he is the only source of salvation and not Mary>?

 

[JVAC]

How? how would it make a difference when he is the only source of salvation and not Mary>?

Because to vote against Mary being the Mother of God, is to subscribe to Nestorian Heresy that was anathemized by the Holy Church! If one subscribes to Nestorian Heresy they are in error and do not worship the one true God, for they have two Christs, and Christianity recognizes one Christ who is God.

-James

 

[Bulldog]

"Mere woman" seems a bit ambigious to me, she was "mere" in the sense that she was an ordinary, average woman, but a chosen vessel and highly blessed by the Lord. After all, she was called blessed amoung women.

I have no doubt that Mary was the Mother of God (God-Bearer, Thetokos)

 

[JVAC]

"Mere woman" seems a bit ambigious to me, she was "mere" in the sense that she was an ordinary, average woman, but a chosen vessel and highly blessed by the Lord. After all, she was called blessed amoung women.

I agree superficially, but by selecting this option one must not select the first option, for you can only select one option on this poll. Therefore, if one selects the latter option they cannot select the orthodox teaching which makes them a Nestorian. If one selects the first option then one can remain orthodox while still believing she was a "mere" woman. However, one must believe she is the Mother of God lest they be anathema.

-James

 

[Bulldog]

I agree superficially, but by selecting this option one must not select the first option, for you can only select one option on this poll. Therefore, if one selects the latter option they cannot select the orthodox teaching which makes them a Nestorian. If one selects the first option then one can remain orthodox while still believing she was a "mere" woman. However, one must believe she is the Mother of God lest they be anathema.

-James

Which is why I'm not voting-a false dilemna has been created.

 

[artofwar]

Because to vote against Mary being the Mother of God, is to subscribe to Nestorian Heresy that was anathemized by the Holy Church! If one subscribes to Nestorian Heresy they are in error and do not worship the one true God, for they have two Christs, and Christianity recognizes one Christ who is God.

But this is not what Christ taught? he said nothing about Mary in his teachings neither did Paul

 

[JVAC]

Which is why I'm not voting-a false dilemna has been created.

However, there is "only" in the latter choice, which would imply the exclusion of the previous option, no?

-James