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To first and foremost love God above all else and second to love our neighbor as ourselves. Righteousness stsrts with love and looking at others and ourselves through the Father's eyes. Our acts and deeds should all come out of our great love for God and others.
 
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God's law contains instructions for how to do what is righteous/how to practice righteousness/how to train in righteousness (1 John 3:4-10, 2 Timothy 3:16-17), but it is not instructions for how to become righteous. The one and only way to become righteous has always been by faith and it is by faith that we demonstrate that we trust God enough to live according to His law.
 
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God's law contains instructions for how to do what is righteous/how to practice righteousness/how to train in righteousness..
Why do we need these instructions, Soy? To implement them.

Ok now let's consider these instructions. List them.
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God's law contains instructions for how to do what is righteous/how to practice righteousness/how to train in righteousness..
Why do we need these instructions, Soy? To implement them.

Ok now let's consider these instructions. List them.

There are 613 laws in the the OT and 1,050 laws in the NT that instruct how to act in line with God's righteousness. They are found here:

613 OT Laws:
http://www.jewfaq.org/613.htm

1,050 NT Laws:
https://www.cai.org/bible-studies/1050-new-testament-commands
 
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Righteousness is seeking YHWH and HIS KINGDOM to DO what HE SAYS, totally subject to HIM, completely, in every way.

As it is , all a person has to do, anywhere on earth,
to break HIS LAW, to SIN,
is to go read one of the laws listed in this thread.
Try it - read any one of the laws in SCRIPTURE,
before someone finishes reading it,
they have already sinned !
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Unless... ... ... (to be continued, YHWH WILLING) ... ...
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Where are other laws of God ...613? lol
 
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Righteousness is seeking YHWH and HIS KINGDOM to DO what HE SAYS, totally subject to HIM, completely, in every way.

As it is , all a person has to do, anywhere on earth,
to break HIS LAW, to SIN,
is to go read one of the laws listed in this thread.
Try it - read any one of the laws in SCRIPTURE,
before someone finishes reading it,
they have already sinned !
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Unless... ... ... (to be continued, YHWH WILLING) ... ...
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...............I'm on the edge of my seat :)
 
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Ok let's make a list of His laws to IMPLEMENT them.

Try to start implementing them.
REMEMBERING:
(1) We could be righteous when God IMPUTES us the righteousness of His Son through our repentance and faith in the Son of God.
(2) After our repentance/conversion we should start OBEYING the words/laws of God in the Bible.
(3) Those who kill and do not stop killing after "conversion" and repentance are in fact killers. Those who are pedophiles before and after their conversion are pedophiles. Those who are sexual immoral before and after their conversion, still LIVE in sins and punishment of God is approaching them like all sinners.

Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals,a]" nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.

1 Cor 6
 
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Ok
The first part of laws to implement:

God in Christianity does NOT allow us to be:

sexually immoral (fornicators and adulterers)
idolaters
homosexuals
sodomites
thieves
covetous
drunkards
revilers
extortioners
swindlers
sorcerers
cowardly

unbelieving
all liars
murderers
(1 John 3:15 Everyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that eternal life does not reside in a murderer.
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1 Corinthians 5:11
But now I am writing you not to associate with anyone who claims to be a brother but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or a verbal abuser, a drunkard or a swindler. With such a man do not even eat.

The Son of God says to Christians:
The one who is victorious will inherit all things, and I will be his God, and he will be My son. 8 But to the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and sexually immoral and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their place will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur. This is the second death.”

NOTE:
No one who remains in Him (GOD) keeps on sinning. No one who continues to sin (NO ONE LIVES IN SINS!!!!) has seen Him or known Him.
7 Little children, let no one deceive you: The one who practices righteousness is righteous, just as Christ is righteous. 8 The one who practices sin is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the very start. This is why the Son of God was revealed, to destroy the works of the devil.…
1 John 3

The problem is: our churches and your sects do NOT teach today what the Bible says...No one commands you to OBEY the Scripture and to BE RIGHTEOUS but God said in the Holy Torah that we should be HOLY like God is HOLY!!!! This was the reason why He gave us the laws in the OT too!
 
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Ok let's make a list of His laws to IMPLEMENT them.

Try to start implementing them.
REMEMBERING:
(1) We could be righteous when God IMPUTES us the righteousness of His Son through our repentance and faith in the Son of God.
(2) After our repentance/conversion we should start OBEYING the words/laws of God in the Bible.
(3) Those who kill and do not stop killing after "conversion" and repentance are in fact killers. Those who are pedophiles before and after their conversion are pedophiles. Those who are sexual immoral before and after their conversion, still LIVE in sins and punishment of God is approaching them like all sinners.

Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals,a]" nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.

1 Cor 6

To rephrase Ephesians 2:8-10, we have been declared righteous by grace through faith, not by doing what is righteous, but for the purpose of doing what is righteous by grace through faith. So we have been imputed righteousness for the purpose of doing what God has revealed to be righteous. According to Titus 2:11-14, our salvation involves being trained by grace to do what God has revealed to be godly, righteous, and good, and being trained to renounce doing what God has revealed to be ungodly and sinful, which is essentially what the Mosaic law was give to instruct us how to do. However, training does not mean that we obtain perfection the moment that we accept Jesus as our Savior, but that we are being trained towards perfection, which is the good work that He who began in us will be faithful to bring to completion on the day of Christ Jesus (Philippians 1:6).

So there is a division between someone who is sinless, someone who practices righteousness and repentance when they falter, and someone who practices unrighteousness. As I mentioned earlier, verses like 1 John 3:10 and 2 Timothy 3:16-17 talk about practicing or training in righteousness, so it is not the case that someone who commits a single transgression of the Mosaic law after they accept Jesus will not inherit the kingdom of God, but rather that refers to those who do not continue to practice repentance.

Ok
The first part of laws to implement:

God in Christianity does NOT allow us to be:

sexually immoral (fornicators and adulterers)
idolaters
homosexuals
sodomites
thieves
covetous
drunkards
revilers
extortioners
swindlers
sorcerers
cowardly

unbelieving
all liars
murderers
(1 John 3:15 Everyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that eternal life does not reside in a murderer.
.)



1 Corinthians 5:11
But now I am writing you not to associate with anyone who claims to be a brother but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or a verbal abuser, a drunkard or a swindler. With such a man do not even eat.

The Son of God says to Christians:
The one who is victorious will inherit all things, and I will be his God, and he will be My son. 8 But to the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and sexually immoral and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their place will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur. This is the second death.”

NOTE:
No one who remains in Him (GOD) keeps on sinning. No one who continues to sin (NO ONE LIVES IN SINS!!!!) has seen Him or known Him.
7 Little children, let no one deceive you: The one who practices righteousness is righteous, just as Christ is righteous. 8 The one who practices sin is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the very start. This is why the Son of God was revealed, to destroy the works of the devil.…
1 John 3

Paul did not come up with his own list of things that are righteous or sinful, but took his list from the Mosaic law.

The problem is: our churches and your sects do NOT teach today what the Bible says...No one commands you to OBEY the Scripture and to BE RIGHTEOUS but God said in the Holy Torah that we should be HOLY like God is HOLY!!!! This was the reason why He gave us the laws in the OT too!

Just as we do not have to do what is righteous in order to become righteous, we do not need to do what is holy in order to become holy. It is God who makes us righteous and holy and so we are to do what He has revealed to be righteous and holy because we have been made righteous and holy and because He is righteous and holy. In 1 Peter 1:13-16, we are told to have a holy conduct because God is holy, which a reference to Leviticus where God was giving instructions for how to have a holy conduct. I would agree that it is problematic that the Church does not teach us to follow God's instructions for how to do what is holy and even more problematic that the Church teaches us not to follow those instructions.


Ok please continue to list of our laws to implement them and let's consider them to remember them and practicing RIGHTEOUSNESS as God commands us in the Holy Bible.

I have already linked to a list of the 613 laws in the OT and 1,050 laws in the NT.
 
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Soy, I love your post. Amazing.
Now we know this and let's teach the Church of God to practice righteousness.
But what should we do exactly? Let's continue the list of the Commands of God given in the Holy Bible which were even not written in the OT laws!!!
 
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Let's read the context of this verse:

All Have Sinned (Rom 3: 9-20).
God’s Righteousness Through Faith (Rom 3:21-26):
God imputes us the righteousness of His Son (who is the Creator of the universe) through our FAITH in Him/the Son of God:

21 But now the righteousness of God apart from the law is revealed, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets, 22 even the righteousness of God, through FAITH in Jesus Christ, to all and on all who believe.
For there is no difference; 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, 25 whom God set forth as a propitiation by His blood, through faith, to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance God had passed over the sins that were previously committed, 26 to demonstrate at the present time His righteousness, that He might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.

Should we continue to live in sins confessing our FAITH in the Son of God?
NO! If we will live in sins, we will die in sins and God will judge us for our sins.

"He (JESUS) himself bore our sins" in his body on the cross, so that we might DIE to sins and live for RIGHTEOUSNESS; "by his wounds you have been healed." 1 Peter 2: 24

Are we to continue in sin so that grace may increase?

Romans 6:2
By no means! We are those who have DIED to sin; how can we LIVE in it any longer?

Romans 6:11
In the same way, count yourselves DEAD to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus.

Romans 6:15
What then? Shall we sin because we are not under the law but under grace? By no means!

1 Peter 4:2
As a result, they do not live the rest of their earthly lives for evil human desires, but rather for the will of God.

The God of Israel COMMANDED us: Be HOLY for I am HOLY.

Hebrews 10:10
And by that will, we have been made HOLY through the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

It is our responsibility to live in sins or with God.


If we will live in sins then God does not live with us.

He abandons sinners (sexual immoral people..)


If we live in sins, we will die in sins and after death God will judge us for our sins.



That is CLEAR.



What is the result of such sins/life style? Sexual immoral people do NOT inherit the Kingdom of God, unbelievers/in-the name-only believers too.



That is why it is OUR responsibility to COOPERATE with God and ABANDON our sins in repentance to live with God...



Or we have the second option: ungodly life, leading us to the Lake of Fire.

What are sins/difficulties, obstacles & hindrances?

"Then shall we know, if we press on to know the Lord." Hosea 6:3


The expression, "press on," implies that there are many sins, difficulties, obstacles and hindrances in a man's way, which keep him back from "knowing the Lord." Now the work of the Spirit l is to carry him on in spite of all these obstacles—to lead him forward—to keep alive in him the fear of God—to strengthen him in his inner man—to drop in those hopes—to communicate that inward grace—so that he is compelled to press on. Sometimes he seems driven, sometimes drawn, sometimes led, and sometimes carried, but in one way or another the Spirit of God so works upon him that, though he scarcely knows how—he still "presses on." His very burdens make him groan for deliverance—his very temptations cause him to cry for help—the very difficulty and ruggedness of the road make him want to be carried every step—the very intricacy of the path compels him to cry out for a guide—so that the Spirit working in the midst of, and under, and through every difficulty and discouragement, still bears him through, and carries him on—and thus brings him through every trial and trouble and temptation and obstacle, until He sets him in glory. It is astonishing to me how our souls are kept alive. The Christian is a marvel to himself. Carried on, and yet so secretly—worked upon, and yet so mysteriously—and yet led on, guided, and supported through so many difficulties and obstacles—that he is a miracle of mercy as he is carried on amid all difficulties, obstacles, trials, and temptations.


Let me add:

"Now the work of the Spirit is to carry him on in spite of all these obstacles—to lead him forward".


Our life is like a flight to the Kingdom of God.

We are flying through mountains (difficulties, obstacles and hindrances in a man's way, which keep him back from "knowing the Lord).

In poor visibility conditions, pilots use navigation systems which enable them to fly in spite of all obstacles—to lead them forward and survive.

The Spirit of God helps us to fly forward. Some of us will be crashed by our sins in mountains because it is our responsibility too to follow and use navigation systems or not.

Some of us will land safely in the Kingdom of God, being safe and saved, if we will OBEY God and LIVE WITH Him IMPLEMENTING what He commands and says in the Holy Bible.

But only one gets the prize!

We do it to get a crown that will last forever!

Hold fast what you have, so that no one may seize your crown!

"Finally, there is laid up for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge (JESUS), will give to me on that Day (the DAY of HIS RETURN to our PLANET), and not to me only but also to all who have loved his appearing." (2 Timothy 4:8)

(1 Corinthians 9:24-27)
 
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For It IS Written Thus Says The Lord, YOU HEAR THE VOICE OF THE LORD...

Consider carefully what you HEAR. With the measure you use, it will be measured to you—and even more. Mark 4:24-25

So, as the Holy Spirit says: "Today, if you hear his voice, do not harden your hearts Hebrews 3:7-8

Therefore consider carefully how you LISTEN. Whoever has will be given more; whoever does not have, even what he thinks he has will be taken from him. Luke 8:18

He replied, "My mother and brothers are those who HEAR GOD'S WORD AND PUT IT INTO PRACTICE." Luke 8:21

Then the LORD spoke to you out of the fire. You heard the sound of words but saw no form; there was only a voice. Deuteronomy 4:12

Paul said: This I say, therefore, and testify in the Lord, that you should no longer walk as the rest of the Gentiles walk, in the futility of their mind, having their understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God, because of the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart; who, being past feeling, have given themselves over to lewdness, to work all uncleanness with greediness.

But you have not so learned Christ, if indeed you have HEARD Him and have been taught by Him, as the truth is in Jesus: that you put off, concerning your former conduct, the old man which grows corrupt according to the deceitful lusts, and be renewed in the spirit of your mind, and that you put on the new man which was created according to God, in true righteousness and holiness. Ephesians 4:17-24

Man does not live on bread alone, but on every WORD that comes from the MOUTH of God. Matthew4:4

That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ. In whom you also trusted, after that you HEARD the WORD of truth, [the word of truth is not a book], the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that you believed, you were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise. Ephesians 1:12-13

Blessed rather are those who HEAR THE WORD OF GOD AND OBEY IT. Luke 11:28

Give EAR, O ye heavens, and I will speak; and HEAR, O earth, the words of my mouth. Deu 32:1

But if your heart turns away so that you do not hear, and are drawn away, and worship other gods and serve them,

I announce to you today that you shall surely perish. Deuteronomy 30:17-18

I will hear what God the LORD will speak, For He will speak peace to His people and to His saints. Psalm 85:8

While he was still speaking, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them; and suddenly a voice came out of the cloud, saying, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. Hear Him!” Matthew 17:5

For everyone who comes to Me and listens to My words and does them, I will show you what he is like: He is like a man building a house, who dug and went down deep and laid a foundation upon the rock; and when a flood arose, the torrent broke against that house and could not shake or move it, because it had been securely built or founded on a rock. Luke 6:47-48 (listens to my words does not mean listen to someone reading the Bible, it is listening to his live, spirit words.)

Most assuredly, I say to you, the hour is coming, and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God; and those who hear will live. John 5:25 (We are the dead of whom he is speaking. But when we hear, we will live.)

It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life-giving. John 6:63

When he has brought out all his own, he goes on ahead of them, and his sheep follow him because they know his voice. But they will never follow a stranger; in fact, they will run away from him because they do not recognize a stranger's voice. John 10:4-5...And other sheep I have which are not of this fold; them also I must bring, and they will hear My voice; and there will be one flock and one shepherd. John 10:16

My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. John 10:27

Everyone who is of the truth HEARS MY VOICE. John 8:37

Then he said, The God of our fathers has chosen you that you should know His will, and see the Just One, and hear the voice of His mouth. Acts 22:14

This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words. 1 Corinthisans 2:13

But My people would not hearken to My voice, and Israel would have none of Me. So I gave them up to their own hearts' lust and let them go after their own stubborn will, that they might follow their own counsels. Psalm 81:11-12

See that you do not refuse Him who speaks. For if they did not escape who refused Him who spoke on earth, much more shall we not escape if we turn away from Him who speaks from heaven Hebrews 12:25

Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. Revelation. 3:20

So call to mind the lessons you received and heard; continually lay them to heart and obey them, and repent. Revelation 3:2-3

For the letter to the Hebrews says, "God, who at sundry times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, has in these last days spoken to us by his Son:" mark that, God has spoken to us (his apostles, disciples, and church), by his Son. Hebrews chapter 1

Thise who have EARS TO HEAR LET THEM HEAR, LISTEN AND OBEY WHAT THE LORD SPEAKS...
 
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REMEMBER:

...fight the good fight, keeping FAITH and a GOOD conscience, which some have rejected and suffered SHIPWRECK in regard to their faith.
1 Timothy 1:19

But the goal of our instruction is love from a pure heart and a good conscience and a sincere faith. 1 Timothy 1:5

1 Timothy 3:9
They must keep hold of the deep truths of the faith with a CLEAR conscience.
 
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Jesus teaches us that those who have ears to HEAR, LET THEM HEAR what the Spirit speaks.

A believers hears and knows the voice of GOD, from the study of His word as we are told. And Jesus says by this we know that we are of His flock when we HEAR HIS VOICE SPEAK TO US, AND LISTEN AND FOLLOW IN OBEDIENCE IMPLEMENTING it.
 
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