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<blockquote data-quote="DamianWarS" data-source="post: 74460295" data-attributes="member: 224982"><p>It's not apathy but ultimately it is your choice and no one else. we both have a measure of faith in the things we accept, the system I'm coming from encourages and values it, the system you're coming from would seem to discourage it and tries to narrow its gap at every chance. in the continuum, we have space, time and matter, but where's God defined in here? If he is truly God he is limitless and he created the continuum so he would exist outside of it and he cannot be measured within the continuum. If we go back to the first event what caused it? we could say it is uncaused and leave it at that but if we are driven at closing the gap of ignorance wouldn't it be more logical to say that something outside the continuum caused it and then explore what that means?</p><p></p><p>Do these words prove anything or satisfy your demand of knowing? I would expect not, but who says your demand for knowing these things needs to be answered? Who says I need to answer them? This seems to be your problem, not mine. I'm not trying to be crass but these are not my questions and if I answer them to your satisfaction or not doesn't actually change anything. Only you can move on from them and no one else. Christ tells us to follow him we need to deny ourselves. What I hear you saying is you have objections and doubts so you cannot accept, then perhaps it's time to surrender those objections and doubts. Why? because that's what it takes to follow Christ. That's the door, only you can open it or you can continue to say I'm not listening.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DamianWarS, post: 74460295, member: 224982"] It's not apathy but ultimately it is your choice and no one else. we both have a measure of faith in the things we accept, the system I'm coming from encourages and values it, the system you're coming from would seem to discourage it and tries to narrow its gap at every chance. in the continuum, we have space, time and matter, but where's God defined in here? If he is truly God he is limitless and he created the continuum so he would exist outside of it and he cannot be measured within the continuum. If we go back to the first event what caused it? we could say it is uncaused and leave it at that but if we are driven at closing the gap of ignorance wouldn't it be more logical to say that something outside the continuum caused it and then explore what that means? Do these words prove anything or satisfy your demand of knowing? I would expect not, but who says your demand for knowing these things needs to be answered? Who says I need to answer them? This seems to be your problem, not mine. I'm not trying to be crass but these are not my questions and if I answer them to your satisfaction or not doesn't actually change anything. Only you can move on from them and no one else. Christ tells us to follow him we need to deny ourselves. What I hear you saying is you have objections and doubts so you cannot accept, then perhaps it's time to surrender those objections and doubts. Why? because that's what it takes to follow Christ. That's the door, only you can open it or you can continue to say I'm not listening. [/QUOTE]
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