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<blockquote data-quote="Resha Caner" data-source="post: 74459901" data-attributes="member: 269139"><p>You have an odd conception of friendship and of Christianity. You make friendship a relationship of exactly identical people, and there is no such thing. I have friendships with people who smoke, and smoking will forever be a threat to their health. It doesn't cease to be a friendship because I'm healthier and care about their health.</p><p></p><p>I have friendships with people who are far superior cinematographers to myself (filmmaking is a hobby of mine). I learn from them and I change because of our friendship. It doesn't cease to be a friendship even if I must forever defer to their expertise in cinematography. Cinematography is not the entirety of filmmaking, and it is not the entirety of our friendship.</p><p></p><p>With respect to my unbelieving friends, I will forever remain their friend - even if they never become a Christian. I am their friend because I am their friend. My desire for them to know Christ would only be an ulterior motive (at least in the sense in which I speak of it) if I were to walk away from them because it seems they will never believe. And I am more than willing to listen to their thoughts on spirituality. It is the willingness to listen, not the necessity of accepting what they say, that makes a friendship. Even with that said, I can easily think of specific instances when unbelieving friends have changed my views on spirituality. Having faith in Christ doesn't mean I'm suddenly right about every spiritual matter. What has never changed is my faith in Jesus as the Christ - just as no one has convinced me my biological father is Chinese. I don't recall anyone saying we can't be friends because I believe I have the truth that my biological father is Caucasian.</p><p></p><p>But your message is coming through. Because I'm Christian, you and I can never be friends.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Resha Caner, post: 74459901, member: 269139"] You have an odd conception of friendship and of Christianity. You make friendship a relationship of exactly identical people, and there is no such thing. I have friendships with people who smoke, and smoking will forever be a threat to their health. It doesn't cease to be a friendship because I'm healthier and care about their health. I have friendships with people who are far superior cinematographers to myself (filmmaking is a hobby of mine). I learn from them and I change because of our friendship. It doesn't cease to be a friendship even if I must forever defer to their expertise in cinematography. Cinematography is not the entirety of filmmaking, and it is not the entirety of our friendship. With respect to my unbelieving friends, I will forever remain their friend - even if they never become a Christian. I am their friend because I am their friend. My desire for them to know Christ would only be an ulterior motive (at least in the sense in which I speak of it) if I were to walk away from them because it seems they will never believe. And I am more than willing to listen to their thoughts on spirituality. It is the willingness to listen, not the necessity of accepting what they say, that makes a friendship. Even with that said, I can easily think of specific instances when unbelieving friends have changed my views on spirituality. Having faith in Christ doesn't mean I'm suddenly right about every spiritual matter. What has never changed is my faith in Jesus as the Christ - just as no one has convinced me my biological father is Chinese. I don't recall anyone saying we can't be friends because I believe I have the truth that my biological father is Caucasian. But your message is coming through. Because I'm Christian, you and I can never be friends. [/QUOTE]
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