Rick Warren

[gracechick]

What is Rick Warren's mo these days in relation to Muslims? Is he seeing them as another way to God? I know he backed down on homosexuality not long ago when his church took some heat for their statement.

Seems like he is one of the shephards trying to state that all roads are ok JMHO

 

[Llucid]

What is Rick Warren's mo these days in relation to Muslims? Is he seeing them as another way to God? I know he backed down on homosexuality not long ago when his church took some heat for their statement.

Seems like he is one of the shephards trying to state that all roads are ok JMHO

"I am not interested in interfaith dialogue but interfaith projects," said the pastor of the 24,000-member Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, Calif., who is widely known for his bestseller "The Purpose-Driven Life."
"Talk is cheap ... but love is something we do together," he added. "As the two largest faiths on this planet - more than 1 billion Muslims and 2 billion Christians - as Muslims and Christians, we must believe in this. As more than half the world, we must do something to model what it is to live in peace, to live in harmony."

(source: washington times)



Teaming up with other 'faiths' might seem like a good idea, but to me it is the start of a slippery slope. Christians do not need other 'faiths' to accomplish anything, we have the Holy creator of the Universe, who can supply anything we need.

Grouping up with other 'faiths' to accomplish things for God does not give Him the glory. It only proves that humans can do things by themselves. Where is the faith in that?

 

[lux et lex]

I never thought I'd agree with Rick Warren on something...but I actually do this time.

 

[Texas Lynn]

Warren backed down on his previous hateful statements toward LGBTs.

He is on the right track here. Islam, Judaism, and Christianity are all Abrahamic faiths. No God or particular faith is served by advocating religious conflict.

 

[Texas Lynn]

Teaming up with other 'faiths' might seem like a good idea, but to me it is the start of a slippery slope. Christians do not need other 'faiths' to accomplish anything, we have the Holy creator of the Universe, who can supply anything we need.

The leaders of the Religious Right, which collaborated with conservative Moslems at the UN Population Conference to withhold rights of women, do not agree with you.

Grouping up with other 'faiths' to accomplish things for God does not give

Him the glory. It only proves that humans can do things by themselves. Where is the faith in that?

God helps those who help themselves. Saying "it's God's will" is spiritual abuse and only serves to increase the smugness and arrogance of the speaker.

 

[Your Friend Adam]

Warren backed down on his previous hateful statements toward LGBTs.

He is on the right track here. Islam, Judaism, and Christianity are all Abrahamic faiths. No God or particular faith is served by advocating religious conflict.

Rick Warren & gays......who gives flip....both are given more prominence than deserved...

Opposing interfaith projects does not mean advocating religious conflict.

 

[Your Friend Adam]

The leaders of the Religious Right, which collaborated with conservative Moslems at the UN Population Conference to withhold rights of women, do not agree with you.

Grouping up with other 'faiths' to accomplish things for God does not give

God helps those who help themselves. Saying "it's God's will" is spiritual abuse and only serves to increase the smugness and arrogance of the speaker.

"God helps those who help themselves?"

Really?

A quick search on the internet will quickly educate any searcher of truth that this little saying is the opposite of biblical teaching......

 

[Texas Lynn]

Opposing interfaith projects does not mean advocating religious conflict.

That's like saying voting for McCain was not a vote against Obama.

 

[Texas Lynn]

"God helps those who help themselves?"

Really?

A quick search on the internet will quickly educate any searcher of truth that this little saying is the opposite of biblical teaching......

The internet's hardly infallible. Try the Parable of the Talents.

 

[Your Friend Adam]

That's like saying voting for McCain was not a vote against Obama.

No it is not.....

One could have opposed Obama but not advocated McCain......

Opposition of one thing does not necessarily advocation of the opposite action....

 

[Texas Lynn]

No it is not.....

One could have opposed Obama but not advocated McCain......

Opposition of one thing does not necessarily advocation of the opposite action....

It has that effect. To state otherwise is to ignore reality.

 

[Your Friend Adam]

The internet's hardly infallible. Try the Parable of the Talents.

You have got to be kidding......

I would very much like for you to try to support the saying by using the Parable of the Talents....

 

[Your Friend Adam]

It has that effect. To state otherwise is to ignore reality.

No it does not....

I suppose it would have been helpful to determine at the beginning of our conversation what you mean by "religious conflict", so what do you mean by religious conflict?

 

[Llucid]

The leaders of the Religious Right, which collaborated with conservative Moslems at the UN Population Conference to withhold rights of women, do not agree with you.

Grouping up with other 'faiths' to accomplish things for God does not give

God helps those who help themselves. Saying "it's God's will" is spiritual abuse and only serves to increase the smugness and arrogance of the speaker.

I couldn't care less what the "Religious Right" is doing, I look to Christ and His Holy example, which flies in the face of your "God helps those who help themselves" philosophy, a belief that is clearly against Biblical teaching. Where is the faith in helping yourself? What does God have to do with you relying on your own abilities? The righteous will live by faith, and we put first His Kingdom and He takes care of everything else. Everything we do is for His Glory.

Also, the parable of the talents has nothing to do with relying on yourself, and everything to do with being faithful with what you've been given. To those who are faithful, more is given.

 

[Texas Lynn]

No it does not....

I suppose it would have been helpful to determine at the beginning of our conversation what you mean by "religious conflict", so what do you mean by religious conflict?

It's a standard phrase that means just what it says...conflicts over religion.

 

[Texas Lynn]

I couldn't care less what the "Religious Right" is doing, I look to Christ and His Holy example, which flies in the face of your "God helps those who help themselves" philosophy, a belief that is clearly against Biblical teaching. Where is the faith in helping yourself? What does God have to do with you relying on your own abilities? The righteous will live by faith, and we put first His Kingdom and He takes care of everything else. Everything we do is for His Glory.

Also, the parable of the talents has nothing to do with relying on yourself, and everything to do with being faithful with what you've been given. To those who are faithful, more is given.

Hardly. The men who acted faithfully showed initiative, i,e., they helped themselves by exercising competence. The last slave was lacadasical, i.e., he did not help himself. You seem to be highly invested in being right here. Too bad for you you're not.

 

[BreadAlone]

That is an unfair assertion. One could equally assert that supporting interfaith movements is lessening the validity of Christianity.

If one is seriously concerned for the eternal sake of people, I don't see a reason to be contemptable of that.

That's like saying voting for McCain was not a vote against Obama.

 

[Your Friend Adam]

It's a standard phrase that means just what it says...conflicts over religion.

We are getting there....

I wonder if by conflict you mean physical (bloodshed) or verbal (theological disagreement).....

I would certainly agree with you that there is a theological conflict between the belief of Christians and Muslims...

 

[Your Friend Adam]

Hardly. The men who acted faithfully showed initiative, i,e., they helped themselves by exercising competence. The last slave was lacadasical, i.e., he did not help himself. You seem to be highly invested in being right here. Too bad for you you're not.

Well, you certainly tried and failed to support the saying using the Parable of the Talents. It is particularly noteworthy, to me at least, that in the process of your trial you threw in some ad hominem toward your debate opponent - an old tactic that really says more (and less) about you than the point of view you are advocating.....

 

[starbrite]

Id say the Jews and palestinians have a pretty impressive inter faith project going on too...................
They are working real hard at utterly destroying one another.....
I am supposing in aid of bringing on armageddon or such...
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