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SPALATIN said:
I have found a local Evangelical Catholic / Orthodox Lutheran congregation only about a half-hour away. I visited them this morning, and the greeting was extremely warm. This is an extremely conservative, liturgical congregation, and one of the most open and diverse I have seen, anywhere.LutherNut said:
The pastor and I talked for quite a while. The pastor and the congregation is dedicated to following Scripture and the Confessions. I do not know if my journey will lead me to the Orthodox Church, or kep me in the Lutheran Church, but I feel as if a heavy weight has been lifted from my shoulders!
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DanHead said:
May I ask if there was any synodical affiliation with this church? Did you take your wife? IF so what were her thoughts on the church?
If you wish to answer me in a PM feel free to do so.
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It was LCMS.SPALATIN said:May I ask if there was any synodical affiliation with this church? Did you take your wife? IF so what were her thoughts on the church?
If you wish to answer me in a PM feel free to do so.
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My wife and 12 y/o daughter went to the ELCA church. The thing with my wife is that church is more of a cultural thing than a confessioal thing. She was born into the ELCA church (ALC at the time, I think), and she has no desire to leave.
My 9 y/o daughter came along with me, she absolutely loved it. The church is Redeemer Lutheran Church in Gresham, Oregon. They don't have a website yet... Maybe that'll change now.
BTW: I found them through the Evangelical-Lutheran Liturgical Congregations directory. Great resource!
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DanHead said:It was LCMS.
My wife and 12 y/o daughter went to the ELCA church. The thing with my wife is that church is more of a cultural thing than a confessioal thing. She was born into the ELCA church (ALC at the time, I think), and she has no desire to leave.
My 9 y/o daughter came along with me, she absolutely loved it. The church is Redeemer Lutheran Church in Gresham, Oregon. They don't have a website yet... Maybe that'll change now.
BTW: I found them through the Evangelical-Lutheran Liturgical Congregations directory. Great resource!
Children are pliable. They will enjoy anything especially if they can bond with Dad. I have a 9-year old daughter and she likes to have special time with her Dad as well. You may be in for a battle with your wife unless you are content to go to separate churches from now on. My wife finally caved in this last year because she wanted us to go to the same church. That and my desire to go to seminary did her in.
I am glad for you Dan. I certainly hope that you find what you are looking for and I still hope that is in the Lutheran Church. I think the LCMS is still a pretty good Orthodox synod and despite the few political problems there are many good churches in the synod that still practice what the doctrine teaches.
The other good thing is that the Seminaries are putting forth good Orthodox men ready for a calling. This may be the force that changes the tide in the LCMS.
God Bless
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