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Are you saying that the Jews who rejected the Son of God, and thus rejected God himself, did not condemn themselves?Jewish people are Jewish people no matter their 'sect.'
All of them are taught by Gods Words of the O.T. to be GODS CHILDREN...
Any 'spirit' that seeks to condemn Gods children...well...there is a day in waiting for same called WRATH...
I have heard the Jews mention that JESUS was an "anti-semite" Himself since He spoke so much against the Jews.Are you saying that the Jews who rejected the Son of God, and thus rejected God himself, did not condemn themselves?
Are you saying that the Jews who rejected the Son of God, and thus rejected God himself, did not condemn themselves?
Hi squint. I am assuming you are referring to me? [which again you have broke the rules by bringing up removing posts and staff actions]. I could report your post but choose not to.If you want to take up this conversation, please jump into the 'sin' thread. Mr ['OJ?'] has requested me not to observe what is going on in here in this thread and my posts observing it have been removed by the PTB.
If you want to take up this conversation, please jump into the 'sin' thread. Mr ['OJ?'] has requested me not to observe what is going on in here in this thread and my posts observing it have been removed by the PTB.
I know, get back on topic, right?sigh..........
Hi bro. This thread was created because I believe this parable has been badly mis-interpreted within Christianity for centuries and if you read commentaries on this parable from other Christians, you will see they agree.I know, get back on topic, right?
THE great majority of the religious sects of Christendom hold that eternal torment in a burning hell is the destiny of the wicked. The words of Jesus recorded at Luke 16:19-31 regarding the rich man and Lazarus are among the proofs offered in support of this teaching.
I have heard the Jews mention that JESUS was an "anti-semite" Himself since He spoke so much against the Jews.
But one must look at the 2 different Judean audiences Jesus spoke to, the corrupt murderous Judean rulers and the "Lost Sheep of Israel"
Mark 3:5 And looking about them with wrath, together-sorrowing on the hardness/pwrwsei <4457> of their heart, He is saying to the man "Stretch forth thy hand"! And he stretches out it and his hand was restored as the other.
Romans 11:25 For not I am willing ye to being ignorant brothers of the mystery, this, that no ye may be beside yourselves wise. That a hardening/pwrwsiV <4457> from part to-the Israel has become until which the filling of-the Nations may be entering [Mark 9:322 Peter 2:12]
Thks brinAhhh excellent point my brother
I gotta go to work soon, but I'll look into it
Interesting question. Remember the Pharisees were aligned with the Priesthood though they differed on a resurrection.Luke 16:19-31 is a parable and it is tied directly to the proceeding parables that come before it in Luke 15 and 16. The critical verse in understanding the parable of Lazarus and the rich man is verse 18.
Jesus alluded to the Pharisees as adulterers. Why? What were they doing that could be equated to adultery?
Okay, I found this so far. Source:
Catholic Answers: This Rock: Quick Questions
Q: I was told that all the people who died prior to Jesus (including Moses and Abraham) went to hell. Is this true?
A: By his death and Resurrection, Jesus opened heaven (CCC 1026). Prior to that time all who died went to "hell"; however, the just went to a place in hell referred to as "the Bosom of Abraham," where they would be comforted. The parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31) seems to indicate that there were two parts of hell. Both Lazarus and the rich man died and went to hell, but Lazarus was comforted in the bosom of Abraham while the rich man was in a place of torment. A great chasm separated the two parts.
The Catechism explains,
Scripture calls the abode of the dead, to which the dead Christ went down, "hell"— Sheol in Hebrew or Hades in Greek—because those who are there are deprived of the vision of God. Such is the case for all the dead, whether evil or righteous, while they await the redeemer: which does not mean that their lot is identical, as Jesus shows through the parable of the poor man Lazarus who was received into "Abraham’s bosom": "It is precisely these holy souls, who awaited their Savior in Abraham’s bosom, whom Christ the Lord delivered when he descended into hell." Jesus did not descend into hell to deliver the damned, nor to destroy the hell of damnation, but to free the just who had gone before him. (CCC 633)For a fuller explanation, see "Hell? Yes! Part I"
Do you have an answer LLoJ?Interesting question. Remember the Pharisees were aligned with the Priesthood though they differed on a resurrection.
The woman in Revelation 17 is not dressed in linen. Linen being a symbol of purity. The purple and linen of Luke 16:19 is a portrait of the priesthood of Levi. See Exodus 28.This richman is also clothed in "purple", much like that City in Revelation.
Or it could be an admittance that she was never married in the first place or properly divorced.She also says she "is not a widow", which means she assumes she is married. But to whom and what?
Hi there. Do you see a tie in between the richman in Luke 16 and that Queen in Revelation?Okay, here is some more:
A Brief History of the Afterlife
Thank you.Do you have an answer LLoJ?
The woman in Revelation 17 is not dressed in linen. Linen being a symbol of purity. The purple and linen of Luke 16:19 is a portrait of the priesthood of Levi. See Exodus 28.
Exd 28:5 ¶ And they shall take gold, and blue, and purple, and scarlet, and fine linen. Exd 28:6 And they shall make the ephod [of] gold, [of] blue, and [of] purple, [of] scarlet, and fine twined linen, with cunning work.
Or it could be an admittance that she was never married in the first place or properly divorced.
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