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Revelation when does begin what does it entail

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I know the book of Revelation has a lot of metaphors and I have tried to understand it etc but I'm wondering if something can be read into whaat is being revealed today with human beings...some times we used to look to humans as our hope, love etc God is telling us no, it is Him only...for example I see more ugly in humans than I ever did
also I have seen videos of evil hauntings/ghosts/poltegerist like I never saw before to believe and therefore it is revealed,...is this a new age of revelation to bring God to us
 

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I know the book of Revelation has a lot of metaphors and I have tried to understand it etc but I'm wondering if something can be read into whaat is being revealed today with human beings...some times we used to look to humans as our hope, love etc God is telling us no, it is Him only...for example I see more ugly in humans than I ever did
also I have seen videos of evil hauntings/ghosts/poltegerist like I never saw before to believe and therefore it is revealed,...is this a new age of revelation to bring God to us


I thought Revelation was meant to represent the Roman Empire at the time.
 
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I know the book of Revelation has a lot of metaphors and I have tried to understand it etc but I'm wondering if something can be read into whaat is being revealed today with human beings...some times we used to look to humans as our hope, love etc God is telling us no, it is Him only...for example I see more ugly in humans than I ever did
also I have seen videos of evil hauntings/ghosts/poltegerist like I never saw before to believe and therefore it is revealed,...is this a new age of revelation to bring God to us

Jesus warned that one of the end times indicators would be a rise in iniquity and the love of many would go cold.. So the more you see these ""ugly in humans"" becoming more and more prevalent then more you can know that the end times are near..

Matthew 24: KJV
11 "And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. {12} And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. {13} But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved."
 
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I thought Revelation was meant to represent the Roman Empire at the time.


Rome was just a type of what is to come. The beast system will make Rome look like a neighborhood bully in comparison.
 
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I do not think we will understand Revelation until shortly before it happens.

Agreed... I suspect that due to the severe persecution that real Christians will face in those times that towards the end some portions of Revelation will only be relevant to a hand full of people.... Like the days of Noah....
 
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I do not think we will understand Revelation until shortly before it happens.

Back in 1975 near death experiencer Dannion Brinkley was given an insight on
the mark of the beast......
as it worked out in one time line.....
that I believe we can learn from......

Dannion Brinkley, Saved By The Light, chapter 5:

BOX 12: Technology & Virus

The 11th box was gone & I was into the 12th box. Its visions addressed an important event in the distant future, the decade of the 90's (remember, this was 1975), when many of the great changes would take place. In this box, I watched as a biological engineer from the Middle East found a way to alter DNA & create a biological virus that would be used in the manufacture of computer chips. This discovery allowed for huge strides in science & technology. Japan, China, & other countries of the Pacific Rim experienced boom times as a result of this discovery & became powers of incredible magnitude. Computer chips produced from this process found their way into virtually every form of technology, from cars & airplanes to vacuum cleaners & blenders.

Before the turn of the century, this man was among the richest in the world, so rich that he had a stranglehold on the world economy. Still the world welcomed him, since the computer chips he had designed somehow put the world on an even keel. Gradually, he succumbed to his own power. He began to think of himself as a deity & insisted on greater control of the world. With that extra control, he began to rule the world.

His method of rule was unique. Everyone in the world was mandated by law to have one of his computer chips inserted underneath his or her skin. This chip contained all of an individual's personal information. If a government agency wanted to know something, all it had to do was scan your chip with a special device. By doing so, it could discover everything about you, from where you worked & lived to your medical records & even what kind of illnesses you might get in the future.

There was an even more sinister side to this chip. A person's lifetime could be limited by programming this chip to dissolve & kill him with the viral substance it was made from. Lifetimes were controlled like this to avoid the cost that growing old places on the government. It was also used as a means of eliminating people with chronic illnesses that put a drain on the medical system. People who refused to have chips implanted in their bodies roamed as outcasts. They could not be employed & were denied government services." (Dannion Brinkley)
 
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Agreed... I suspect that due to the severe persecution that real Christians will face in those times that towards the end some portions of Revelation will only be relevant to a hand full of people.... Like the days of Noah....

The delay of twenty years or so in the fulfillment of what Dannion was shown may
fit with Multiverse Theory which I believe corresponds with multiple fulfillments of Ezekiel chapter 37.

The Philosophical implications of Multiverse Theory?
 
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Here is the thing bout prophecy: even though a passage seems clear and we set up doctrines about it, in the end, it looks much different....perhaps even opposite to what we thought it would look like. It isn't until AFTER it is fulfilled that we can look can understand what it meant all along. I think the whole bible is like that.
Take the coming of the messiah. He did not conquer Rome and set up His kingdom. That is why many rejected him. They were sorely misunderstanding prophecy.

I am suggesting that how the "end" actually happens will look far different than what we expect. It might not even be as bad as we are expecting. At least for those who are good people.
 
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Here is the thing bout prophecy: even though a passage seems clear and we set up doctrines about it, in the end, it looks much different....perhaps even opposite to what we thought it would look like. It isn't until AFTER it is fulfilled that we can look can understand what it meant all along. I think the whole bible is like that.
Take the coming of the messiah. He did not conquer Rome and set up His kingdom. That is why many rejected him. They were sorely misunderstanding prophecy.

I am suggesting that how the "end" actually happens will look far different than what we expect. It might not even be as bad as we are expecting. At least for those who are good people.

Nevertheless, I don't think we'll be raptured!
 
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Nevertheless, I don't think we'll be raptured!
That is a really tough one. But when you read Pauls words in Thessolonians, it seems fairly plain.
I have many friends who hold fast to the idea that we will all probably get a haircut at the collar bone. They say that there is no way we will be spared. Well, I have done thousands of ho
Nevertheless, I don't think we'll be raptured!

I hope you are wrong. :)
 
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I know the book of Revelation has a lot of metaphors and I have tried to understand it etc but I'm wondering if something can be read into whaat is being revealed today with human beings...some times we used to look to humans as our hope, love etc God is telling us no, it is Him only...for example I see more ugly in humans than I ever did
also I have seen videos of evil hauntings/ghosts/poltegerist like I never saw before to believe and therefore it is revealed,...is this a new age of revelation to bring God to us
What is being revealed is actually two things, the sinfulness of man and God's righteous deeds, culminating in the final show down with the wicked. All we really know about what starts the Tribulation is that the first seal is opened and out pops the Antichrist. The first four seals represent the rise of the Antichrist and the fifth seal is of the martyrs beneath the throne. The six seal is the first round of wrath on the armies of the Antichrist.

They were holding harps from God, and they sang the song of God’s servant Moses and of the Lamb:

“Great and wonderful are Your works, Lord God Almighty!
Just and true are Your ways, O King of the nations!
Who will not fear You, O Lord, and glorify Your name? For You alone are holy.
All nations will come and worship before You, for Your righteous acts have been revealed.”… (Rev. 2-4)
The ghost stories are irrelevant, the Revelation is probably one of the more straight forward books of prophecy in Scripture. It's written like Grecian dramatic poetry and loaded with Levetical and Prophetic imagery. For the most part it interprets the many images and predictions. Before God judges sin he exposes it, usually by letting it run wild for a while.
 
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Nevertheless, I don't think we'll be raptured!
Actually the word should be resurrection but since there are those who will be translated at the return of Christ without facing physical death this word is used. I have never bought into a pre-tribulation rapture if that's what your getting at.
 
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