Revelation 20:1-6 Isnt A Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, Dont Be Deceived

[Truth7t7]

Revelation 20:1-6 Isnt A Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, Dont Be Deceived​

Can you find the things claimed by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 below?

1.) Physical Earthly Kingdom?
2.) Physical Earthly Throne?
3.) Physical Mortal Humans?

The Above Claims (Don't Exist)

Revelation 20:1-6 Is 100% In The Lords (Spiritual) Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ

100% Spiritual Realm, No "Literal" Time

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Revelation 20:1-6KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

 

[tailgator]

You should stop attempting to decieve people and except the word of God

Revelation 20
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.



These things are exactly what God promised them who keep his commandments in Deuteronomy 28.Even the destruction of the enemies in verse 9 above are also mentioned in Deuteronomy 28.


Deuteronomy 28
28 And it shall come to pass, if thou shalt hearken diligently unto the voice of the Lord thy God, to observe and to do all his commandments which I command thee this day, that the Lord thy God will set thee on high above all nations of the earth:

 

[Truth7t7]

You should stop attempting to decieve people and except the word of God

Revelation 20
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.



These things are exactly what God promised them who keep his commandments in Deuteronomy 28.Even the destruction of the enemies in verse 9 above are also mentioned in Deuteronomy 28.


Deuteronomy 28
28 And it shall come to pass, if thou shalt hearken diligently unto the voice of the Lord thy God, to observe and to do all his commandments which I command thee this day, that the Lord thy God will set thee on high above all nations of the earth:

Once again, no mortal millennial kingdom on this earth is seen in Revelation 20:1-6, it's 100% in the Lord's spiritual realm where one day is a thousand years, no earthly time is seen, your mortal kingdom on this earth is non-existant

 

[Clare73]

Revelation 20:1-6 Isnt A Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, Dont Be Deceived​

Can you find the things claimed by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 below?
1.) Physical Earthly Kingdom?
2.) Physical Earthly Throne?
3.) Physical Mortal Humans?

The Above Claims (Don't Exist)

Revelation 20:1-6 Is 100% In The Lords (Spiritual) Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ

100% Spiritual Realm, No "Literal" Time

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Revelation 20:1-6KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Revelation is figurative of the church age, the last age of time, and its end.

 

[Diamond72]

Can you find the things claimed by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth

I tend to be post millennial, but I do not rule out pre millennial. I think people can expect what they have faith in. I know we rule and reign with Christ for 1,000 years. If you do not think you are a part of that, then maybe you are not going to be a part of that.

 

[Diamond72]

one day is a thousand years

The church age has been 2000 years, or will be in 2029 because the church began when Peter was preaching in the upper room on the day of Pentecost. The Bible clearly tells us the Kingdom age is 1,000 years.

All my life I have seen Isaiah 9:6. in Christmas cards. It is clear that the Kingdom age has to do with government. This is why we are told to pray Thy Kingdom come, Thy will be done. On Earth as it is in Heaven. In the Lords prayer that many churches pray ever Sunday as a part of the book of common prayers.

> "For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace."

> Our Father, who art in heaven, > Hallowed be thy Name. > Thy Kingdom come. > Thy will be done on earth, as it is in heaven. > Give us this day our daily bread. > And forgive us our trespasses, > As we forgive those who trespass against us. > And lead us not into temptation, > But deliver us from evil. > For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, forever and ever. Amen.

This prayer is found in the New Testament in Matthew 6:9-13 and Luke 11:2-4. It serves as a model for how to pray, emphasizing reverence for God, submission to His will, provision, forgiveness, and guidance.

 

[tailgator]

Once again, no mortal millennial kingdom on this earth is seen in Revelation 20:1-6, it's 100% in the Lord's spiritual realm where one day is a thousand years, no earthly time is seen, your mortal kingdom on this earth is non-existant

The earthy kingdom is found here after Israel is resurected and raised out of their graves.

Ezekiel 37
7 So I prophesied as I was commanded: and as I prophesied, there was a noise, and behold a shaking, and the bones came together, bone to his bone.

8 And when I beheld, lo, the sinews and the flesh came up upon them, and the skin covered them above: but there was no breath in them.

9 Then said he unto me, Prophesy unto the wind, prophesy, son of man, and say to the wind, Thus saith the Lord God; Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe upon these slain, that they may live.

10 So I prophesied as he commanded me, and the breath came into them, and they lived, and stood up upon their feet, an exceeding great army.

11 Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts.

12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.

13 And ye shall know that I am the Lord, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves,


Christ will be reigning over Israel in this kingdom of priests in the land of Israel.


24 And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them.

25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for ever.

26 Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant with them: and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore.

27 My tabernacle also shall be with them: yea, I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

28 And the heathen shall know that I the Lord do sanctify Israel, when my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore.



Gog comes against the resurected saints living in the land of Israel in Ezekiel 38.This is the same Gog who comes against the resurected saints In revelation 20.

 

[Truth7t7]

I tend to be post millennial, but I do not rule out pre millennial. I think people can expect what they have faith in. I know we rule and reign with Christ for 1,000 years. If you do not think you are a part of that, then maybe you are not going to be a part of that.

Revelation 20:1-6 is 100% in the Lord's spiritual realm of no time, those reigning with Jesus are in the spiritual realm not on this physical earth

 

[Truth7t7]

The church age has been 2000 years, or will be in 2029 because the church began when Peter was preaching in the upper room on the day of Pentecost. The Bible clearly tells us the Kingdom age is 1,000 years.

All my life I have seen Isaiah 9:6. in Christmas cards. It is clear that the Kingdom age has to do with government. This is why we are told to pray Thy Kingdom come, Thy will be done. On Earth as it is in Heaven. In the Lords prayer that many churches pray ever Sunday as a part of the book of common prayers.

> "For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace."

> Our Father, who art in heaven, > Hallowed be thy Name. > Thy Kingdom come. > Thy will be done on earth, as it is in heaven. > Give us this day our daily bread. > And forgive us our trespasses, > As we forgive those who trespass against us. > And lead us not into temptation, > But deliver us from evil. > For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, forever and ever. Amen.

This prayer is found in the New Testament in Matthew 6:9-13 and Luke 11:2-4. It serves as a model for how to pray, emphasizing reverence for God, submission to His will, provision, forgiveness, and guidance.

No such thing as a kingdom age being 1,000 years, it's a man made fairy tale

 

[tailgator]

Revelation 20:1-6 is 100% in the Lord's spiritual realm of no time, those reigning with Jesus are in the spiritual realm not on this physical earth

It literally says they are on earth.

Revelation 20
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

 

[tailgator]

No such thing as a kingdom age being 1,000 years, it's a man made fairy tale

It does not say the kingdom ends.

 

[Truth7t7]

It literally says they are on earth.

Revelation 20
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

My claim is Revelation 20:1-6 is 100% spiritual realm that (Thousand Years) pertains to

Stop misrepresenting my claims made, one reason I don't respond to you

 

[tailgator]

My claim is Revelation 20:1-6 is 100% spiritual realm that (Thousand Years) pertains to

Stop misrepresenting my claims made, one reason I don't respond to you

Earth is not a spiritual realm.


Revelation 20
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.


The kingdom upon earth is a physical kingdom upon earth.Just as physical as the earth itself.

 

[Diamond72]

No such thing as a kingdom age being 1,000 years, it's a man made fairy tale

If that is your claim then it is up to you to offer something in the way of evidence or proof. Maybe you can start by telling us just what you think this "fairy tale" is. Clearly in Isaiah 9 "will reign on David’s throne and over his kingdom".

Do you believe it is a fairy tale to call Jesus a King? Clearly it is not a fairy tale to call the 1,000 year age a kingdom age. It is just a word you do not like to use. There are many names for the church age and none of them are "fairy tales"


how many different words are there to describe the church age

The term "Church Age" is a significant concept in Christian theology, and there are several different terms used to describe this period. Some of these terms are interchangeable, while others may emphasize different aspects of this era. Here are a few:

Common Terms for the Church Age:​

1. Church Age: Refers to the period from Pentecost (Acts 2) to the Second Coming of Christ.
2. Age of Grace: Highlights the emphasis on grace and salvation through faith in Jesus Christ during this period.
3. Dispensation of Grace: Similar to the Age of Grace, emphasizing the theological framework of dispensationalism.
4. Christian Era: Broadly refers to the time since the advent of Christianity.
5. Gentile Age: Emphasizes the spread of the Gospel to the Gentiles (non-Jews) during this period.
6. Time of the Gentiles: Refers to the period when Gentiles play a central role in the spread of Christianity.
7. Post-Pentecostal Era: Marks the period following the outpouring of the Holy Spirit at Pentecost.
8. Ecclesiastical Era: Refers to the era of the Church's mission and growth.
9. Messianic Age: Sometimes used in broader theological contexts to include the entire period of the Messiah's reign, including the Church Age.

Common Terms for the 1,000-Year Reign:​

1. Millennium: Derived from the Latin words for "thousand" (mille) and "years" (annum), this is the most widely used term.
2. Millennial Kingdom: Emphasizes the kingdom aspect of Christ's reign.
3. Messianic Kingdom: Highlights Jesus as the Messiah ruling during this period.
4. Kingdom Age: Sometimes used interchangeably to denote this reign.
5. Reign of Christ: A broader term that can refer to Christ's rule during this period.
6. The Age to Come: Refers to the future era of Christ's reign on earth.
7. Golden Age: Symbolizes a time of peace and prosperity under Christ's rule.

You need to tell us just when, or where or what you think is a fairly tale.

Additional Terms:​

1. Millennial Reign: Emphasizes the duration of Christ's rule.
2. Christ's Thousand-Year Reign: A straightforward term highlighting the time frame and Christ’s authority.
3. Kingdom of Christ: Focuses on the dominion of Jesus during this period.
4. Theocratic Kingdom: Emphasizes the divine governance aspect, where Christ rules directly.
5. Future Kingdom: Indicates the forward-looking aspect of this period.
6. Messianic Age: Highlights Jesus as the Messiah reigning during this era.
7. Sabbath Millennium: Some traditions see the Millennium as a "Sabbath" rest for the Earth, correlating with the concept of a thousand-year rest after six thousand years of human history.
8. Eschatological Kingdom: Refers to the final events in God's plan for humanity, focusing on the culmination of history.
9. Thousand-Year Reign: A descriptive term that reiterates the duration of the reign.
10. Restoration of All Things: Refers to the period when all things will be restored under Christ’s reign, as mentioned in Acts 3:21.

 

[johansen]

Even if his other premise is correct, lets examine the fruit of it: death.

No future for this planet and anyone on it except death. For what purpose?

 

[Apple Sky]

Thy Kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in Heaven.

 

[Truth7t7]

If that is your claim then it is up to you to offer something in the way of evidence or proof. Maybe you can start by telling us just what you think this "fairy tale" is. Clearly in Isaiah 9 "will reign on David’s throne and over his kingdom".

Do you believe it is a fairy tale to call Jesus a King? Clearly it is not a fairy tale to call the 1,000 year age a kingdom age. It is just a word you do not like to use. There are many names for the church age and none of them are "fairy tales"


how many different words are there to describe the church age

The term "Church Age" is a significant concept in Christian theology, and there are several different terms used to describe this period. Some of these terms are interchangeable, while others may emphasize different aspects of this era. Here are a few:

Common Terms for the Church Age:​

1. Church Age: Refers to the period from Pentecost (Acts 2) to the Second Coming of Christ.
2. Age of Grace: Highlights the emphasis on grace and salvation through faith in Jesus Christ during this period.
3. Dispensation of Grace: Similar to the Age of Grace, emphasizing the theological framework of dispensationalism.
4. Christian Era: Broadly refers to the time since the advent of Christianity.
5. Gentile Age: Emphasizes the spread of the Gospel to the Gentiles (non-Jews) during this period.
6. Time of the Gentiles: Refers to the period when Gentiles play a central role in the spread of Christianity.
7. Post-Pentecostal Era: Marks the period following the outpouring of the Holy Spirit at Pentecost.
8. Ecclesiastical Era: Refers to the era of the Church's mission and growth.
9. Messianic Age: Sometimes used in broader theological contexts to include the entire period of the Messiah's reign, including the Church Age.

Common Terms for the 1,000-Year Reign:​

1. Millennium: Derived from the Latin words for "thousand" (mille) and "years" (annum), this is the most widely used term.
2. Millennial Kingdom: Emphasizes the kingdom aspect of Christ's reign.
3. Messianic Kingdom: Highlights Jesus as the Messiah ruling during this period.
4. Kingdom Age: Sometimes used interchangeably to denote this reign.
5. Reign of Christ: A broader term that can refer to Christ's rule during this period.
6. The Age to Come: Refers to the future era of Christ's reign on earth.
7. Golden Age: Symbolizes a time of peace and prosperity under Christ's rule.

You need to tell us just when, or where or what you think is a fairly tale.

Additional Terms:​

1. Millennial Reign: Emphasizes the duration of Christ's rule.
2. Christ's Thousand-Year Reign: A straightforward term highlighting the time frame and Christ’s authority.
3. Kingdom of Christ: Focuses on the dominion of Jesus during this period.
4. Theocratic Kingdom: Emphasizes the divine governance aspect, where Christ rules directly.
5. Future Kingdom: Indicates the forward-looking aspect of this period.
6. Messianic Age: Highlights Jesus as the Messiah reigning during this era.
7. Sabbath Millennium: Some traditions see the Millennium as a "Sabbath" rest for the Earth, correlating with the concept of a thousand-year rest after six thousand years of human history.
8. Eschatological Kingdom: Refers to the final events in God's plan for humanity, focusing on the culmination of history.
9. Thousand-Year Reign: A descriptive term that reiterates the duration of the reign.
10. Restoration of All Things: Refers to the period when all things will be restored under Christ’s reign, as mentioned in Acts 3:21.

Revelation 20:1-6 Isnt A Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, Dont Be Deceived​

Can you find the things claimed by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 below?

1.) Physical Earthly Kingdom?
2.) Physical Earthly Throne?
3.) Physical Mortal Humans?

The Above Claims (Don't Exist)

Revelation 20:1-6 Is 100% In The Lords (Spiritual) Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ

100% Spiritual Realm, No "Literal" Time

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Revelation 20:1-6KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

 

[Truth7t7]

Thy Kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in Heaven.

The Lord's Kingdom is in the here and now

There won't be a future 1,000 year kingdom on this earth, it's a man made fairy tale

Colossians 1:12-14KJV
12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:
13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:

 

[Apple Sky]

The Lord's Kingdom is in the here and now

There won't be a future 1,000 year kingdom on this earth, it's a man made fairy tale

Colossians 1:12-14KJV
12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:
13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:

Ah that's a shame I was looking forward to Jesus's return.

 

[Diamond72]

Revelation 20:1-6 Isnt A Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, Dont Be Deceived

Are you saying you're post-millennial? By your logic, there is no church, no Holy Spirit, and no church age; it is all myth. More and more, I am thinking that the Millennial age is symbolic, like the church age, and not literal.
2 Corinthians 5:8, the Apostle Paul writes: "We are confident, I say, and would prefer to be away from the body and at home with the Lord."

The issue here has to do with Revelation 20:4-6, along with the first and the second resurrection. You are claiming to be an expert on this so go ahead and explain the first and the second resurrection from your perspective of the Kingdom age being a "fairly tale". Because you admit that your concept of all of this is a fairly tale. Only problem is we do not believe you, so we do not buy into your self admitted fairy tale.

post millennial for those who do not know.

Postmillennialism is a Christian eschatological view that believes Christ will return after a thousand-year period of peace and righteousness, known as the millennium. This perspective is distinct from other views like Premillennialism and Amillennialism.

Key Points of Postmillennialism:​

1. Gradual Improvement: Postmillennialists believe that through the preaching of the Gospel and the influence of the Church, the world will gradually improve, leading to a golden age of Christian ethics, peace, and justice.
2. Golden Age: This era is seen as a millennial reign, not necessarily a literal 1,000 years, characterized by the widespread influence of Christianity and the establishment of a godly society.
3. Christ's Return: At the end of this period, Christ will return to judge the living and the dead, bringing about the final consummation of history.
4. Optimistic Outlook: This view is generally more optimistic about the future, emphasizing the transformative power of the Gospel and the eventual triumph of good over evil.

Differences from Other Views:​

• Amillennialism: Interprets the millennium symbolically, as the current church age rather than a future period.
• Premillennialism: Expects Christ to return before the millennium to establish His kingdom on earth.

Postmillennialism emphasizes the potential for positive change and the ultimate victory of Christian principles in the world.

I have heard a lot of pre trib and pre millennial teaching for the last 50 years. They call this the rapture and they have movies and books called "left behind". AS I say, whatever your faith is, then so be it onto you.

It could be that there are no surprises for anyone, and everyone will get what they have the faith to receive. As I say from Isaiah, the kingdom age has to do with a Christian Government. Clearly, we do not have that right now. But we do have people claiming they are going to tear down the current government and build a new Christ-based government in place of the current administration. The idea of a "Kingdom Age" or a Christian government is indeed a significant topic in eschatological discussions.