Reve 9:15 Messengers prepared for Hour, Day, Month and Year

[LittleLambofJesus]

Matthew 24:
36
“But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the Messengers of heaven,[fn] but My Father only.
50
the [master of that slave will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour which he does not know,

In Reve 9:15, the phrase "hour, day, month and year is used.

Revelation 9:15
So the four Messengers, who had been prepared for the hour and day and month and year,
were released to kill a third of mankind.

John 19:14
Now it was the day of preparation for the Passover;
it was about the sixth hour. And he *said to the Jews, “Behold, your King!”

Josephus gives us the day, month and year that the Romans encompassed Jerusalem, the day of the Passover,
but not the hour:

http://www.bible.ca/pre-destruction70AD-george-holford-1805AD.htm

The day on which Titus encompassed Jerusalem, was the feast of the Passover..........

This memorable siege terminated on the eighth day of the ninth month, A. D. 70 :
its duration was nearly five months,
the Romans having invested the City on the fourteenth day of the fourth month, preceeding.............................

I looked up the words "the hour" in a concordance to see if I could find something relating to Jerusalem, Temple and Sanctuary, and here are a few verses I found.
Any thoughts or comments on this?

https://www.blueletterbible.org/search/search.cfm?Criteria=the+hour&t=NKJV&ss=1#s=s_primary_0_1

Now this is mind boggling.
Zacharias, the priestly father of John the Baptist is shown in the Sanctuary of God at the hour of incense:

Strong's Number G2368 matches the Greek θυμίαμα (thymiama),which occurs 6 times in 6 verses

Luke 1:10
10 And the whole multitude of the people was praying outside the Sanctuary at the hour of incense<2368>.
11 Then a Messenger of the Lord appeared to him,
standing on the right side of the Altar of incense<2368> [Revelation 8:3]

#2368 is used in only 4 other verses, all in Revelation:

Revelation 5:8
And when It took the scroll, the four living-ones and the twenty-four elders fell before the Lamb,
having each one harps and golden vials full of incenses<2368>, which are the prayers of the Saints

Revelation 8:
3 and another Messenger did come, and He stood at the Altar, having a golden censer, and there was given to Him much incense<2368>,
that He may give [it] to the prayers of all the Saints upon the golden Altar that is before the Throne, [Luke 1:10]
4 and go up did the smoke of the incenses<2368> to the prayers of the Saints out of the hand of the Messenger, before God;

Revelation 18
11 ‘And the merchants of the land shall weep and sorrow over Her, because their lading no one doth buy any more; 12 lading of gold, and silver, and precious stone, and pearl, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyne wood, and every vessel of ivory, and every vessel of most precious wood, and brass, and iron, and marble,
13 and cinnamon, and incenses<2368>, and ointment, and frankincense,
and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat,
and cattle, and sheep, and of horses, and of chariots, and of bodies and souls of men

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

As far as I know, Luke 1:10 is the only place in the Gospels that actually shows a Priest inside the Holy Place of the Sanctuary performing at the Altar of Incense.

Luke 1:10
10 And the whole multitude of the people was praying outside the Sanctuary<3485> at the hour of incense<2368>.
11 Then a Messenger of the Lord appeared to him,
standing on the right side of the Altar of incense<2368> [Revelation 8:3]

Revelation 11:1
And there was given unto me a reed, like unto a staff, saying-- rouse! and measure! the Sanctuary<3485> of the God,
and the Altar[Golden Altar of Incense],
and them who are doing homage therein;

Revelatin 8:3
And another Messenger came and stood at the Altar, having a golden censer; [Luke 1:10]..............

 

[TribulationSigns]

Matthew 24:
36
“But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the Messengers of heaven,[fn] but My Father only.
50
the [master of that slave will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour which he does not know,

In Reve 9:15, the phrase "hour, day, month and year is used.

Revelation 9:15
So the four Messengers, who had been prepared for the hour and day and month and year,
were released to kill a third of mankind.Josephus gives us the day, month and year that the Romans encompassed Jerusalem, the day of the Passover,
but not the hour:

Slow down, Little Lamb.

First, tell us, who are the messengers of heaven of Matthew 24:36 and the four messengers and Revelation 9:15?

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Slow down, Little Lamb.

First, tell us, who are the messengers of heaven of Matthew 24:36 and the four messengers and Revelation 9:15?

Thank you for responding.

For now, I am just going to put up the verses and compare them with other places in the Bible.
Then I'll let "bible scholars" here interpret them:
the pre-mills, post-mills, amills; pre-trib ,mid-trib, post-trib, partial-preterists, historicists, etc.

Edit to add:
Feel free to comment on what I have posted so far.

 

[Gottservant]

This inspired me.

The messengers will have a pre-prepared message.

"In that hour, the Holy Spirit will give you the words that you must speak" (settle it in your minds not to prepare to say anything) - (gospels)

None of those who dispute the rapture will be ready, because the only way to be ready is to put your own words behind you?

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Slow down, Little Lamb.

First, tell us, who are the messengers of heaven of Matthew 24:36 and the four messengers and Revelation 9:15?

Not sure. Might make a thread on that.....

the phrase "4 Messengers" are only listed in 4 verses verses of the NT all in Revelation.

Revelation 7:
1
And after these things I saw four messengers, standing upon the four corners of the land, holding the four winds of the land, that the wind may not blow upon the land, nor upon the sea, nor upon any tree;
[Ezekiel 7:
1 And a Word of Yahweh is becoming to me to say of, `And thou, Son of 'adam!
thus says my Lord Yahweh to ground of Yisra'el:
2 An End comes, the End on Four of Corners of the Land. (Revelation 20:8)]
Reve 7
2
and I saw another Messenger going up from the rising of the sun, having a seal of the living God, and he did cry with a great voice to the four messengers, to whom it was given to injure the land and the sea, saying,
3 “Do not harm the land or sea or trees until we have sealed the foreheads of the servants of our God.”

And then there are theses 4 Messengers:

Revelation 9:
14
saying to the sixth messenger who had the trumpet, 'Loose! the four messengers who are bound at the great river Euphrates;'
15
and loosed were the four messengers, who have been made ready for the hour, and day, and month, and year, that they may kill the third of men;

 

[keras]

Revelation 14:6
And I saw a Messenger flying in mid-heaven!
having the everlasting GOSPEL to proclaim to those dwelling upon the land.
And to every Nation and Tribe and Tongue and People.

This verse come straight after the selection of the 144,000 by Jesus.
It is them who will go out to the nations and proclaim the Gospel of the coming Kingdom.
Proved by Isaiah 66:19

The 'angel' is simply an allegory for them. People would be terrified to have a huge angel shouting at them from the sky!

 

[Eloy Craft]

The four Gospels

Revelation 1:9
[ A Vision of Christ ] I, John, your brother who share with you in Jesus the persecution and the kingdom and the patient endurance, was on the island called Patmos because of the word of God and the testimony of Jesus.

Revelation 12:17
Then the dragon was angry with the woman, and went off to make war on the rest of her children, those who keep the commandments of God and hold the testimony of Jesus.

Revelation 19:10
Then I fell down at his feet to worship him, but he said to me, “You must not do that! I am a fellow servant with you and your comrades who hold the testimony of Jesus. Worship God! For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.”

 

[Davy]

In Reve 9:15, the phrase "hour, day, month and year is used.

Revelation 9:15
So the four Messengers, who had been prepared for the hour and day and month and year,
were released to kill a third of mankind.Josephus gives us the day, month and year that the Romans encompassed Jerusalem, the day of the Passover,
but not the hour:

http://www.bible.ca/pre-destruction70AD-george-holford-1805AD.htm

The day on which Titus encompassed Jerusalem, was the feast of the Passover..........

This memorable siege terminated on the eighth day of the ninth month, A. D. 70 :
its duration was nearly five months,
the Romans having invested the City on the fourteenth day of the fourth month, preceeding.............................

I looked up the words "the hour" in a concordance to see if I could find something relating to Jerusalem, Temple and Sanctuary, and here are a few verses I found.
Any thoughts or comments on this?

https://www.blueletterbible.org/search/search.cfm?Criteria=the+hour&t=NKJV&ss=1#s=s_primary_0_1

Now this is mind boggling.
Zacharias, the priestly father of John the Baptist is shown in the Sanctuary of God at the hour of incense:

Strong's Number G2368 matches the Greek θυμίαμα (thymiama),which occurs 6 times in 6 verses

Luke 1:10
10 And the whole multitude of the people was praying outside the Sanctuary at the hour of incense<2368>.
11 Then a Messenger of the Lord appeared to him,
standing on the right side of the Altar of incense<2368> [Revelation 8:3]

#2368 is used in only 4 other verses, all in Revelation:

Revelation 5:8
And when It took the scroll, the four living-ones and the twenty-four elders fell before the Lamb,
having each one harps and golden vials full of incenses<2368>, which are the prayers of the Saints

Revelation 8:
3 and another Messenger did come, and He stood at the Altar, having a golden censer, and there was given to Him much incense<2368>,
that He may give [it] to the prayers of all the Saints upon the golden Altar that is before the Throne, [Luke 1:10]
4 and go up did the smoke of the incenses<2368> to the prayers of the Saints out of the hand of the Messenger, before God;

Revelation 18
11 ‘And the merchants of the land shall weep and sorrow over Her, because their lading no one doth buy any more; 12 lading of gold, and silver, and precious stone, and pearl, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyne wood, and every vessel of ivory, and every vessel of most precious wood, and brass, and iron, and marble,
13 and cinnamon, and incenses<2368>, and ointment, and frankincense,
and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat,
and cattle, and sheep, and of horses, and of chariots, and of bodies and souls of men

Sorry, but that's not really even close to the actual Rev.9:13-16 Scripture meaning.

Rev 9:13-16
13 And the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God,

14 Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, "Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates."

15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.

16 And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them.
KJV

The ones doing the actual slaying is that army of horsemen the four angels loose. Euphrates has always been the original border God ordained between Israel and its enemies. That border being opening by the four angels to loose that army represents the beginning of their stinging of men for five months as revealed back on the 5th trumpet. Verses 17-19 reveal the power of that army is in their mouths, pointing to lies that come out of their mouths. It's not a literal military army. They represent Christ's enemies that will work deception with the devil during the tribulation timing.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

This inspired me.
The messengers will have a pre-prepared message.
"In that hour, the Holy Spirit will give you the words that you must speak" (settle it in your minds not to prepare to say anything) - (gospels)

None of those who dispute the rapture will be ready, because the only way to be ready is to put your own words behind you?

Thank you for your view.....FWIW, I am not a future rapture believer..........