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[Easystreet]

I would like to know if you are a 7 point dispensationalist or very similar.

If you do not ascribe to Dispensationalism then I am asking you not to post under this topic. I am only interested in those of you that are dispensationalist.

Thanks Gordon.

 

[Easystreet]

Because I have not participated in this forum that much I am in need of knowing who among all of us are dispensationalist.

Thanks Gordon

 

[zeke37]

what are the 7 point???

 

[Easystreet]

what are the 7 point???

Those who are dispensationalist understand dispensationalism. I will list them later. But, I take it that you are not a dispensationalist.

 

[Epiphoskei]

Uhmm... I've been raised dispensationalist all my life and have never heard of seven points either.

 

[Biblewriter]

I'm sorry, I am a dispensationalist, and a well reputed writer on the subject, but I have never heard of seven point dispensationalism.

Do you perhaps mean the seven dispensations? Each of these dispensations being a demonstration of man's failure under every conceivable situation. Some divide them this way.

1. Innocence - the garden of Eden only. Man broke his only law. Ended with expulsion from the garden.
2. Conscience - from Adam to Noah. Every imagination of the heart of man became only evil continually. The world was filled with violence and corruption. (Sounds like now.) Ended with the great flood.
3. Government - from Noah to Babel. Man tried to make a name for himself. Ended with the confusion of tongues.
4. Promise - from Abraham to Moses. Israel forgot the promises. Ended with Israel enslaved in Egypt.
5. Law - from Moses to Christ. No one ever kept it except Jesus.Ended with His rejection and crucification.
6. Grace - from Christ to the rapture. Will end in apsotascy leading to the great tribulation.
7. Millennium - 100 year reign of holiness. Will end with the whole world in rebellion. Fire will fall from God out of heaven and burn up the rebels.

 

[Easystreet]

I'm sorry, I am a dispensationalist, and a well reputed writer on the subject, but I have never heard of seven point dispensationalism.

Do you perhaps mean the seven dispensations? Each of these dispensations being a demonstration of man's failure under every conceivable situation. Some divide them this way.

1. Innocence - the garden of Eden only. Man broke his only law. Ended with expulsion from the garden.
2. Conscience - from Adam to Noah. Every imagination of the heart of man became only evil continually. The world was filled with violence and corruption. (Sounds like now.) Ended with the great flood.
3. Government - from Noah to Babel. Man tried to make a name for himself. Ended with the confusion of tongues.
4. Promise - from Abraham to Moses. Israel forgot the promises. Ended with Israel enslaved in Egypt.
5. Law - from Moses to Christ. No one ever kept it except Jesus.Ended with His rejection and crucification.
6. Grace - from Christ to the rapture. Will end in apsotascy leading to the great tribulation.
7. Millennium - 100 year reign of holiness. Will end with the whole world in rebellion. Fire will fall from God out of heaven and burn up the rebels.

Just my way of saying it. The best I can remember those of us that are 7 pointers, if I may, used this terminology as far back as 30 plus years.

Perhaps you can publish a list of articles and publications you have written and where they can be found.

Gordon

 

[Easystreet]

I am a very big fan, follower of LU and TRBC.

www.glslocksmith.net

Click the cross

 

[LamorakDesGalis]

Dispensationalists have always differed in the number of dispensations. Many today regard the eternal state as a dispensation, earlier dispensationalists did not. The number of dispensations range from a minimum of 3 to 9 or 12. I hold to 5 or 6.



LDG

 

[A Brother In Christ]

I am a dispensationalist but we disagree with little side bits and you will not discuss

by the way 7 points?

I just love to look at prophecy fulfilled and unfulfilled

 

[Easystreet]

I am a dispensationalist but we disagree with little side bits and you will not discuss

by the way 7 points?

I just love to look at prophecy fulfilled and unfulfilled

Definitions of Dispensationalism on the Web:

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• A method of interpreting the Bible that divides history into distinct eras or "dispensations" in which God deals with man in a distinctive way and, in some cases, in which God's ethical standards change. A leading distinctive of dispensationalism is the sharp division between ethnic Israel and the church of Jesus Christ. ...[/SIZE]
  [SIZE=-1]www.reformationonline.com/glossary.htm[/SIZE]
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• Teaching that history is divided into various time periods during which God moves in the world in certain distinctive ways. Hence, "dispensation of innocence," "dispensation of government," "dispensation of law," "dispensation of grace," and "kingdom economy," etc. The Greek word means "economy" or "administration." Several different schools of dispensationalism exist.[/SIZE]
  [SIZE=-1]focusonjerusalem.com/biblicalterms.html[/SIZE]
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• Dispensationalism is a branch of Christian theology that (1) teaches Biblical history as best understood in light of a number of successive economies or administrations under God, which it calls "dispensations," and (2) emphasizes prophecy of the end-times and the pre-tribulation rapture view of Christ's second coming. [/SIZE]
  [SIZE=-1]en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dispensationalism[/SIZE]

 

[Easystreet]

I am a dispensationalist but we disagree with little side bits and you will not discuss [what might they be as it pertains to "7 point dispensationalism / classical dispensationalism as it has been tagged.]

by the way 7 points?

I just love to look at prophecy fulfilled and unfulfilled

 

[BereanTodd]

Definitions of Dispensationalism on the Web:

• [SIZE=-1]
• A method of interpreting the Bible that divides history into distinct eras or "dispensations" in which God deals with man in a distinctive way and, in some cases, in which God's ethical standards change. A leading distinctive of dispensationalism is the sharp division between ethnic Israel and the church of Jesus Christ. ...[/SIZE]
  [SIZE=-1]www.reformationonline.com/glossary.htm[/SIZE]
  [SIZE=-1]
• Teaching that history is divided into various time periods during which God moves in the world in certain distinctive ways. Hence, "dispensation of innocence," "dispensation of government," "dispensation of law," "dispensation of grace," and "kingdom economy," etc. The Greek word means "economy" or "administration." Several different schools of dispensationalism exist.[/SIZE]
  [SIZE=-1]focusonjerusalem.com/biblicalterms.html[/SIZE]
  [SIZE=-1]
• Dispensationalism is a branch of Christian theology that (1) teaches Biblical history as best understood in light of a number of successive economies or administrations under God, which it calls "dispensations," and (2) emphasizes prophecy of the end-times and the pre-tribulation rapture view of Christ's second coming. [/SIZE]
  [SIZE=-1]en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dispensationalism[/SIZE]

By the way, none of those three "definitions" are the way that we dispensationalists define ourselves, nor is the division of history into however many sub-set dispensations in any way the central point of dispensationalism.

Dispensationalism is characterised by a consistent, literal interpretation of the Scriptures, and a recognition of the distinctives between Israel and the church. That's it.

 

[zeke37]

IMO, there are 8 dispensations of time

 

[A Brother In Christ]

no ... the dispensation of law is put on hold

and restarted during the Great TRib... jacob's trouble

the Jews were looking to be resurrected 75 days after the 2nd coming ... Dan 12:2,11,13

as the church it will happen at any moment 1 cor 15:51-52

 

[Easystreet]

Am a Ryrie-ite 7 dispensationalist. I suppose the tribulation, while the completion of the 70 weeks could be argued as the finishing up of the Dispensation of Law, it does have a somewhat added twist to it.

The meaning as applied by Ryrie and others in his camp seems to me acceptable and provable.

As to the philosophy of interpretation I hold to the following:

Normal, literal, grammatical, historical, approach.

Normal meaning allowing genre, and cultural variables to have their right place in understanding What, When, How, and Why behind the thinking of the setting it was written in.

I am apposed to Wooden Literal as some groups employ to prove a specific doctrine like "Election" "Water Baptism" and others.

 

[A Brother In Christ]

Yet Gordon you have yet to answer the question on election in matt 11:23 ....

why did God not show them the miracles

romans 9:20-24 God is master... of the clay