Response to TrustAndObey

[NightEternal]

And the roar of Rome is heard once again.

You just don't get it, do you? The IJ doctrine has undergone much revision since its inception. Are you totally clueless to this fact? There is very little that is similar between Uriah Smith's IJ and the pre-advent judgment that was found in Clifford Goldstein's SS quarterly, which the vast majority in the church hold to. The traditional understanding deserves to be rejected, as it violated the assurance of salvation in the worst way.

Face it. Your understanding of the IJ has gone the way of the dinosaurs.

 

[Your Neighbor]

...as it violated the assurance of salvation in the worst way....

There is NO assurance of salvation in unconfessed and unforsaken sin.

PRO 28.13
He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy.

GAL 2.17
But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid.

 

[Your Neighbor]

...The IJ doctrine has undergone much revision since its inception.

These haven't changed:

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[tall73]

We are not forcing the rejectors of church truth away. Seventh-day Adventists ask that these voluntarily leave our church. We would be better off to have every rejector of the IJ out of the camp.

You would be better off if you addressed the evidence so that folks would not have to leave--unless you are wrong.

I have posted it before. Here is my thread to address the issues if you want. Please read through the thread so that you understand the issues and then comment on any of the three points so far:

http://www.christianforums.com/t5313191-adventist-pastor-reviews-his-faith-sanctuary.html

 

[NightEternal]

It isn't going to happen Tall. The best he can do is shotgun blast 4 threads worth of solid EGW quotes and somehow think that ends the debate.

And she's all he can appeal to really, because the Bible alone certainly does not support his position.

Truly, he must have been asleep for the last few years if he contends those things he posted from the EGW Apologist Estate haven't undergone revision.

 

[honorthesabbath]

T&O you are a "newbie" It all makes sense now. you have converted and you are still in the "honeymoon" phase. oh ok. I see the first generation os always the most zelous. You aren't familure enough with the history and retoric to be secuer enough to question and examine. gotcha Ya. you have not been able to differentate between christ and the chruch. it all makes sense. When the "rose colored"glasses come off you will be able to see for the light it is.

Spell check is a wonderful feature--isn't it?