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:wave: Faith is multi-cultural and I just feel we must find a place to respect everybody. God would probably take this side. Give and take but mainly realising that they too need to respect us. They have feelings, we have feelings but let us all extend the hand of friendship.
 
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:wave: This is now the big question for everybody in our multi-cultural society. The different religions need their freedoms. They need also to respect our Christian society and realise that we too need respect.
Yes, but Christianity never fits the
rules.

You have to give time for the other
'beliefs' but
Bibles are banned in school.
Christmas vacation is now Winter break.
No prayer in school.

etc.

That's because there is no other name
by which men can obtain salvation.

Christ is hated by the world.
Religions are no threat.

:wave:
 
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I would say, before we expect respect, we as "Christians" need to stop condemning other groups just because they are not perfect, and quite ignoring people for their sexuality, religiosity, or political affliation. In other words, I think we all need to...

STOP JUDGING LEST WE BE JUDGED!!!

I mean, telling people their faith si the faith of the "anti-Christ" isn't exactly how to make friends. Further, rallying against an ALREADY discriminated population is even worse. Who cares if people are gay/Islam/Atheist/whatever, they are STILL people.

We look like a band of marching hypocrites in the eyes of everyone but ourselves! If we cannot learn this basic thing, how can we ever expect to be taken seriously?

I would say. But I can always be wrong.
 
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Yes, but Christianity never fits the
rules.

You have to give time for the other
'beliefs' but
Bibles are banned in school.
Christmas vacation is now Winter break.
No prayer in school.

etc.

That's because there is no other name
by which men can obtain salvation.

Christ is hated by the world.
Religions are no threat.

:wave:

I guess the reason Christianity is so frowned above in what you wrote is because it's a threat to non-Christians. It's a real threat to them. Though I was in oblivion before Christ, in general I see people are afraid of what we will do, if certain people get power, to stop abortion,etc. They are afraid they will lose their freedom. So they are scared, and they have a right to be scared, because there is a veil over their eyes. We will always be a threat to non christians, because of Christ. Also, we will always be hated because of Christ. So while all things Christian seem to be taken away, it is not to be unexpected, God said we will face many things. He never asked for a Christian world, but came to change hearts. Yes, others scream for rights of their faiths, while things we have are taken away, while Christ is removed, but really if we show them Christ though us, is how we'll reach them anyway.

I would say, before we expect respect, we as "Christians" need to stop condemning other groups just because they are not perfect, and quite ignoring people for their sexuality, religiosity, or political affliation. In other words, I think we all need to...

STOP JUDGING LEST WE BE JUDGED!!!

I mean, telling people their faith si the faith of the "anti-Christ" isn't exactly how to make friends. Further, rallying against an ALREADY discriminated population is even worse. Who cares if people are gay/Islam/Atheist/whatever, they are STILL people.

We look like a band of marching hypocrites in the eyes of everyone but ourselves! If we cannot learn this basic thing, how can we ever expect to be taken seriously?

I would say. But I can always be wrong.

I agree with what you are saying here. On CF instead of reaching out many times, we see bashing. However, I don't think that's going to change much really. People are going to be judgemental aren't going to change, unless they look inside their own dark hearts and realize how indeed dark it is, wherein we don't let Christ in certain areas. But it's also a protection to those that are judgemental. If they changed their colors it's a threat to what they stand for and believe in. It rocks ones faith when the truth they've known is shown to be different.

I don't mean to put down pastors at all, but many sheep don't know but what is fed to them. Public Christian radio determines what the battles will be, or popular Christina books determine what Christians are going seek after next. I see the differnce, as I lived in Ohio, where I had Christian radio, and now for 10 years, in Mass. I have none, and have no clue what the church in general is doing. I've heard about the purpose driven life book, but you know what I mean.

I always think, if Christians could just be real, be themselves we could reach others better. Say, it, yes, my heart is dark and desperately wicked. Even tho Christ gave me a new heart, all that I consciously or unconsiously have not given over is darkness.

The ones that are most offensive are those who look at outward sins of others, and dont' see the inward sins of their own. Jesus called it white washing or such.

Again, being on Cf for a time, I don't see this changing. There will always be this battle going on, this clashing because each group feels it needs to do whatever.

In one thread titled, why are Christians so defensive. All the thread really means in essence is, how come when I point out others sins to them, do they get so mad. It's a pride thread, yet veiled in self-rightousness. don't know why they don't see it, I have'nt the courage to point it out.

You aren't wrong at all. You are right, and that's why there are so many problems on CF. But this is how it will always be for we all grow differently, have different teachers, some legalists, some liberalists.

I like the verse that says If I be raised I will draw all men to myself.

To me, that's not just about the resurrection. It's about if Christ is raised in church, people will come. See, they want to teach how to be a better spouse, how to fight this battle, how to fight that battle, how to raise your kids, but if they preached Christ, their would be heart changes.

It's not bad to preach the other, but the churches that are most effective always preach Christ in every sermon whether on the ot or nt, they show how it is applied with Christ, and how it will apply in our lives. I suppose I don't like topical real life stuff. A struggling husband and wife may get some healing from a service about the wife submitting and the man being spiritual leader, but if Christ were preached instead, the inside of the woman and man would change, by the power of the Holy Spirit.

Oh I've gone and written a book.
 
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:wave: This is now the big question for everybody in our multi-cultural society. The different religions need their freedoms. They need also to respect our Christian society and realise that we too need respect.

Respect yes.

Blind ognorance no.

Tolerance yes.

Suicidal martyrism unlikely.

I know you are trying to say ignore the muslims and jsut live and let live.

this will ensure the suffering of all non Muslims.

Thier religion only knows one thing world domination of Islam . Its what their religion is all about its in their so called HOLY Book the Koran.
 
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There is a need to understand other religions to a much greater extend than we currently do. I myself don't have much knowledge about Islam, Buddism, Hinduism etc, but these are things that I'm attempting to learn more about.

Islam in particular seems to get a lot of bad press, but this is only because our view of Islam is completely shaped by Islamic extremists in the Middle-east. This is a totally unfair way to look at things, I think that most Christians would take massive issue with opinion of them being completely shaped by the Crusades.

Talking to a muslim friend recently, I actually found out that many muslims have many similar beliefs to Christians - their belief in Christ being a prophet who worked miracles etc being one similar belief. I'm not saying that Islam is the same as Christianity, rather that we as Christians are called to go and disciple all people, and to do this effectively, we need to GO to where they are, and strive to understand their beliefs.

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There is a need to understand other religions to a much greater extend than we currently do. I myself don't have much knowledge about Islam, Buddism, Hinduism etc, but these are things that I'm attempting to learn more about.

Islam in particular seems to get a lot of bad press, but this is only because our view of Islam is completely shaped by Islamic extremists in the Middle-east. This is a totally unfair way to look at things, I think that most Christians would take massive issue with opinion of them being completely shaped by the Crusades.

Talking to a muslim friend recently, I actually found out that many muslims have many similar beliefs to Christians - their belief in Christ being a prophet who worked miracles etc being one similar belief. I'm not saying that Islam is the same as Christianity, rather that we as Christians are called to go and disciple all people, and to do this effectively, we need to GO to where they are, and strive to understand their beliefs.

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Here are a few lof 1000's of inks on Islam.

http://www.islamunveiled.info/

http://www.prophetofdoom.net/

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1456395/posts
 
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So are you suggesting that these websites give us all the facts about Islam, and therefore we need not investigate it further? So if i cited a few websites showing Christianity to be as it was in the Crusades, would you be happy to agree that that suggestion is what you believe Christianity to be about?

Jarvo
 
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Christianity first and foremost, teaches us to love God and to love one another; this should be a defining characteristic of anyone who repents of their sins and professes to follow Christ.

Acts 26:20
20First to those in Damascus, then to those in Jerusalem and in all Judea, and to the Gentiles also, I preached that they should repent and turn to God and prove their repentance by their deeds.

As Christians, we also believe there is one and only one God. So if someone, or some other belief system, justifies or condones something that is contrary to these basic beliefs, then they are not following what God requires, and we should not tolerate that.

We don't tolerate murder or theft, so why should we tolerate anything else that is contrary to God's word? It's not a case of being judgmental, it's a case of calling something that is contrary to what God teaches, wrong.
 
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Christianity first and foremost, teaches us to love God and to love one another; this should be a defining characteristic of anyone who repents of their sins and professes to follow Christ.

Acts 26:20


As Christians, we also believe there is one and only one God. So if someone, or some other belief system, justifies or condones something that is contrary to these basic beliefs, then they are not following what God requires, and we should not tolerate that.

We don't tolerate murder or theft, so why should we tolerate anything else that is contrary to God's word? It's not a case of being judgmental, it's a case of calling something that is contrary to what God teaches, wrong.

Hi, I respectfully strongly disagree with what you are saying. God only required of the Hebrews in the OT, and those who would join with them to obey His laws and decrees.

Jesus did not teach others to make others like themselves or like him, but only to those believers are we taught to be like Jesus and Paul said be like me, or to not do wrong. Only those who believed in Jesus' message

There is no call to make the world do as God has spoken.

Otherwise we would be pharisee's making men whitewashed, which is not redemptive in anyway.

There are plenty of good folk, non christians out there, many probably higher morals than I have for myself, yet without God they are lost.

God didn't tell us to change the world, but to be changed by the Holy Spirit. Our love reaches the world by that witness, but we can not tell others to do what God says. Though in some instances we do, such as abortion etc., but in no way is earth meant to be heaven.
 
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But isn't the behavior expected of us in Heaven worth trying to emulate here?

Obviously, we can't force the behavior that God expects of us on anyone, but we should certainly not hesitate to encourage behavior that is in keeping with what God commandments. And vice versa.

I'm not talking about cultural practices that we may view as being different- of course we need to respect those. What I'm talking about are those basic human values that are universal- universal because they are embedded in the conscientiousness of every human being.

So why should we tolerate, for example, religious systems that demand that you kill people who don't believe what you do, or that condone suicide bombings.
 
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Oh I've gone and written a book.
You did, but it was a very good book, well worth the time to read. I mostly agree, and even to the extent I don't, it still shows maturity and wisdom. :thumbsup:
 
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So why should we tolerate, for example, religious systems that demand that you kill people who don't believe what you do, or that condone suicide bombings.
I don't believe we should, at least not to an unlimited degree... but I don't say that as a Christian, but as an American citizen. That is, I am always a Christian and I try never to forget it, but my reaction on that issue comes from my political worldview, not from my faith.
 
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:wave: This is now the big question for everybody in our multi-cultural society. The different religions need their freedoms. They need also to respect our Christian society and realise that we too need respect.

The U.S. used to be a Christian society. There are a great number of church buildings here and a number of Mega churches but the cultural evidence shows that most of the church members are not spiritually converted.

Is it fair to the other religions that the secular government recognize only Christian holy days?

Maybe it is best that the government take a neutral position when it comes to religious things. I would feel very uncomfortable if the government started recognizing other religions of the world.
 
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