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In my terminology and view "respect" is sort of the default attitude - thus, for me, the question would rather be "can it be lost and if so how?"Is respect gained by being demanded or by being earned?
I´m still not sure about the meaning you use "respect" in. How do I tell whether someone respect someone else´s views / doesn´t respect them? How do I tell whether I respect someone´s views or don´t?For example, if I demanded that you respect my views, would you be more inclined or less inclined to respect my views and me as a person or would it make no difference?
I think of "respect" as an inner attitude. I have no idea how I could possibly be forced to respect a view.What if I tried to force you to respect my views?
My opinion about your views is - hopefully - not affected by the way you deliver them.What would you think of my views and me then?
Im using the dictionary meaning of the verb respect, which is to consider worthy of high regard and to refrain from interfering with. So if I demanded that you respect my views, I would be demanding that you consider them worthy of high regard and that you refrain from interfering with them. In other words, I would be demanding that you not criticize my views regardless of their intrinsic merit or lack thereof and regardless of whether you disagree with them.Maybe it would be a good idea to explain what exactly you mean when saying "respect"?
Suppose I threatened you with some form of personal injury if you criticized my views or failed to consider them worthy of high regard. It could be financial injury, abridgment of your rights or physical harm. If I did that, would you be more inclined or less inclined to respect my views and me?Could you describe a scenario in which someone is forced to respect a view and how this is done?
Suppose I threatened you with some form of personal injury if you criticized my views or failed to consider them worthy of high regard. It could be financial injury, abridgment of your rights or physical harm. If I did that, would you be more inclined or less inclined to respect my views and me?
Would you say then that the demands and threats are counterproductive? That while, outwardly, you may feign respect for my views, inwardly, the demands and threats would make you less inclined to respect my views and me as a person?I would be inclined to pretend to respect you.
Would you say then that the demands and threats are counterproductive? That while, outwardly, you may feign respect for my views, inwardly, the demands and threats would make you less inclined to respect my views and me as a person?
Im using the dictionary meaning of the verb respect, which is to consider worthy of high regard and to refrain from interfering with.
verb (used with object) 9. to hold in esteem or honor: I cannot respect a cheat. 10. to show regard or consideration for: to respect someone's rights. 11. to refrain from intruding upon or interfering with: to respect a person's privacy. 12. to relate or have reference to.
So if I demanded that you respect my views, I would be demanding that you consider them worthy of high regard and that you refrain from interfering with them. In other words, I would be demanding that you not criticize my views regardless of their intrinsic merit or lack thereof and regardless of whether you disagree with them.
Suppose I threatened you with some form of personal injury if you criticized my views or failed to consider them worthy of high regard. It could be financial injury, abridgment of your rights or physical harm. If I did that, would you be more inclined or less inclined to respect my views and me?
Is respect gained by being demanded or by being earned? For example, if I demanded that you respect my views, would you be more inclined or less inclined to respect my views and me as a person or would it make no difference? What if I tried to force you to respect my views? What would you think of my views and me then?
Thanks for explaining!I’m using the dictionary meaning of the verb respect, which is to consider worthy of high regard and to refrain from interfering with.
Well, I think at best you can demand (and possibly force) the latter part, whilst concerning my opinions and considerations of worth and value you - fortunately - have no control (unless you are capable of using brainwashing methods).So if I demanded that you respect my views, I would be demanding that you consider them worthy of high regard and that you refrain from interfering with them.
I see. Would you provide any reasons as to why your opinion of all is not to be exposed to the scrutinity everybody else´s (and, among other, mine) is, or would you simply appeal to your own authority?In other words, I would be demanding that you not criticize my views regardless of their intrinsic merit or lack thereof and regardless of whether you disagree with them.
Well, the "don´t criticize" part of your definition of "respect" would depend on my courage, my opinion whether the case is even worth being discussed and probably some other conditions.Suppose I threatened you with some form of personal injury if you criticized my views or failed to consider them worthy of high regard. It could be financial injury, abridgment of your rights or physical harm. If I did that, would you be more inclined or less inclined to respect my views and me?
Regardless of which of those dictionary meanings you use for respect, I dont think my asking that people respect my views is a problem, particularly if it is apparent that my views have merit. If my views have no apparent merit then I would expect people to ask questions to determine their merit and if no merit can be found then I wouldnt expect anyone to respect them.Actually, you seem to be using one of four possible uses of the verb respect (not counting the 8 definitions for when it is used as a noun). What I find in the dictionary:
verb (used with object) 9. to hold in esteem or honor: I cannot respect a cheat. 10. to show regard or consideration for: to respect someone's rights. 11. to refrain from intruding upon or interfering with: to respect a person's privacy. 12. to relate or have reference to.
I think most of the problem here is that words such as "respect" and "tolerance" have a wide range of definitions and people often craft arguments like you are here saying that respect has to be earned when people ask to be respected, when typically all they mean is that we should be courteous to them and respect their rights as a human.
To get respect, you have to give it FIRST. Works every time.Is respect gained by being demanded or by being earned? For example, if I demanded that you respect my views, would you be more inclined or less inclined to respect my views and me as a person or would it make no difference? What if I tried to force you to respect my views? What would you think of my views and me then?
On the contraryand not unexpectedlyyour solution would never work. What you are saying is that you demand to be respected by others before you will respect them. And if they follow your advice and demand the same, what then? If we employed your illogical method then no one would ever respect anyone.To get respect, you have to give it FIRST. Works every time.
On the contraryand not unexpectedlyyour solution would never work. What you are saying is that you demand to be respected by others before you will respect them. And if they follow your advice and demand the same, what then? If we employed your illogical method then no one would ever respect anyone.
If thats what he meant then he should have expressed it more clearly because that isnt what he wrote. He wrote, [t]o get respect, you have to give it FIRST. Note that he used the imperative have to and he emphasized FIRST. In other words, you have to respect others before they will respect you or, differently again, others wont respect you until you respect them.He's saying that he gives respect, and that eventually this brings respect.
If thats what he meant then he should have expressed it more clearly because that isnt what he wrote. He wrote, [t]o get respect, you have to give it FIRST. Note that he used the imperative have to and he emphasized FIRST. In other words, you have to respect others before they will respect you or, differently again, others wont respect you until you respect them.
Now think of it from the point of view of the others. They will not respect you until you respect them. To use Godschild87s terms, they will not give respect until they get it. Everyone is an other to everyone else. So, if everyone will not give respect until they get it then we have reached an impasse. No one would ever give respect to anyone.
I see Christians here and elsewhere constantly demanding respect for their beliefs. So when a Christian here writes that to get respect, I have to give it first, it looks like another demand to me. Hes not saying what he would do; hes telling me what I have to do.You could assume he meant that everyone should follow the example. Your way assumes that everyone does the exact opposite which is....weird, really.
I see Christians here and elsewhere constantly demanding respect for their beliefs. So when a Christian here writes that to get respect, I have to give it first, it looks like another demand to me. Hes not saying what he would do; hes telling me what I have to do.
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